Tail butters & ollies

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Whenever I lean backwards on my skis to pop, butter or manual i get really sharp pains in my ankles and other parts of my legs. I don't feel any pain when I'm throwing a nose butter. Anyone know what I may be doing wrong, I don't think my skis are too stiff but maybe I'm wrong.
 
Cus those tricks are super hard on your knees and shouldn't really be done unless you have superior leg strength and flexibility. But if the pain is really that bad, you prolly have too loose bindings or they don't fit right. Also you really gotta engage your entire body, don't just lean.

**This post was edited on Dec 31st 2021 at 12:24:04am
 
Have the same issue with ollies. I developed the pain just from riding way backseat so now I’m trying ollies and it hurts like hell. I tried resting a couple days and it didn’t help so I’m gonna try foam rolling the lower leg.
 
14371331:ReturnToMonkey said:
Cus those tricks are super hard on your knees and shouldn't really be done unless you have superior leg strength and flexibility. But if the pain is really that bad, you prolly have too loose bindings or they don't fit right. Also you really gotta engage your entire body, don't just lean.

**This post was edited on Dec 31st 2021 at 12:24:04am

This. I used to make the same mistake of just shifting my weight to the back of my boots in an attempt to do manuals and such and encountered some pretty gnarly shin bang. You really gotta actually put some muscle into it. Your core, legs, glutes, everything should be engaged. The pressure should be more on your heels rather than the backs of your Achilles. Also buy full tilts
 
14371602:ASAPCarter said:
This. I used to make the same mistake of just shifting my weight to the back of my boots in an attempt to do manuals and such and encountered some pretty gnarly shin bang. You really gotta actually put some muscle into it. Your core, legs, glutes, everything should be engaged. The pressure should be more on your heels rather than the backs of your Achilles. Also buy full tilts

just tried and this helped alot thanks
 
Is the “buy full tilts” thing a joke or are people actually serious because they’re that good.

14371602:ASAPCarter said:
This. I used to make the same mistake of just shifting my weight to the back of my boots in an attempt to do manuals and such and encountered some pretty gnarly shin bang. You really gotta actually put some muscle into it. Your core, legs, glutes, everything should be engaged. The pressure should be more on your heels rather than the backs of your Achilles. Also buy full tilts
 
14371684:Timby said:
Is the “buy full tilts” thing a joke or are people actually serious because they’re that good.

completely serious, in all situations full tilts are the best option
 
In your opinion what makes them superior? I feel as if you can get the same flex in other boots, like I messed around with my Nordica's flex adjustor and got them pretty lenient.

14371744:powpatrol said:
completely serious, in all situations full tilts are the best option
 
14371744:powpatrol said:
completely serious, in all situations full tilts are the best option

I have full Tilts and have the same sharp pains, but I may have it confused with my broken leg that still is recovering. Or maybe my boots don’t fit perfectly? Eh,

idc.
 
14371764:Timby said:
In your opinion what makes them superior? I feel as if you can get the same flex in other boots, like I messed around with my Nordica's flex adjustor and got them pretty lenient.

14371802:PimpChimpin said:
I have full Tilts and have the same sharp pains, but I may have it confused with my broken leg that still is recovering. Or maybe my boots don’t fit perfectly? Eh,

idc.

Get full tilts
 
14371684:Timby said:
Is the “buy full tilts” thing a joke or are people actually serious because they’re that good.

In all seriousness, I absolutely love my first chairs and I’m glad I made the switch to a 3 piece, but go see a boot fitter if you’re having issues that you think go beyond your form. Switching to full tilts made skiing much more enjoyable for me personally and made me a better skier, but everybody’s different and what works for me might not for you. Seeing a boot fitter to figure out what works for YOUR feet is going to be much more helpful than chasing trends or trying to diagnose boot issues over the internet. A properly fitting boot with a liner that isn’t packed out will change your skiing. For me that boot was full tilts, but for you it could be some Lange race boots or something else.
 
14371802:PimpChimpin said:
I have full Tilts and have the same sharp pains, but I may have it confused with my broken leg that still is recovering. Or maybe my boots don’t fit perfectly? Eh,

idc.

clearly counterfeit full tilts
 
14371684:Timby said:
Is the “buy full tilts” thing a joke or are people actually serious because they’re that good.

It really depends how your feet fit in them. It's definitely meme status but they also happen to fit a lot of people very well. Mine happen to fit like a glove, but I have narrow feet. I don't think they're as nice for people with wide feet

**This post was edited on Jan 1st 2022 at 12:54:28am
 
What do you think FT's provide that made you a better skier? I don't have foot pain or whatever in my current setup, but I'm also curious to what FT has to offer. Does having that perfect fit make you turn/jump/carve better? Thanks for any input you have.

14371850:ASAPCarter said:
In all seriousness, I absolutely love my first chairs and I’m glad I made the switch to a 3 piece, but go see a boot fitter if you’re having issues that you think go beyond your form. Switching to full tilts made skiing much more enjoyable for me personally and made me a better skier, but everybody’s different and what works for me might not for you. Seeing a boot fitter to figure out what works for YOUR feet is going to be much more helpful than chasing trends or trying to diagnose boot issues over the internet. A properly fitting boot with a liner that isn’t packed out will change your skiing. For me that boot was full tilts, but for you it could be some Lange race boots or something else.
 
14371865:Timby said:
What do you think FT's provide that made you a better skier? I don't have foot pain or whatever in my current setup, but I'm also curious to what FT has to offer. Does having that perfect fit make you turn/jump/carve better? Thanks for any input you have.

Dispersing the flex more evenly throughout the whole tongue rather than all the pressure being on my buckles was a big one. I also really love the heat moldable burrito style intuition liners that came with them. The j bar also helps a bit to keep my heel down. More than anything though, after heat molding and adding quality footbeds, they had a much more snug and responsive fit compared to my old boots.

Like I said though, what works for me might not work for you.
 
14371764:Timby said:
In your opinion what makes them superior? I feel as if you can get the same flex in other boots, like I messed around with my Nordica's flex adjustor and got them pretty lenient.

I used to ride salomon SPK's which is a very soft park boot. Had so many issues, the second I put my feet in a properly fitted fulltilt. Oh my god dude, it was freedom. shin pain. Gone. Toe slammage. Gone. 2 days later I could actually land tricks, without the agony. buy fulltilts now before they are gone forever. I use descendants.

I should also add that there are other options, some peoples feet are too wide for the FTs.

**This post was edited on Jan 1st 2022 at 9:07:12am
 
topic:skiiiiit said:
Whenever I lean backwards on my skis to pop, butter or manual i get really sharp pains in my ankles and other parts of my legs. I don't feel any pain when I'm throwing a nose butter. Anyone know what I may be doing wrong, I don't think my skis are too stiff but maybe I'm wrong.

Get full tilts
 
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