For all the hate the no times get, mine are basically bomb proof and I love them. I've never treated a pair of skis this badly since I got them as a holdover for half a season, but damn, they've been through some shit. I hit urban with them, skied many days, summer sessions, left them outside for the entire summer (literally), and they still only have one edge crack and a few topsheet nicks. My bindings, thats another story.