Surface Outsiders now at your local ski shop "Walmart"???

Jbleddy

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974434.jpegAm I the only one who hasn't seen this before or has Walmart now entered the ski scene?

Stumbled across this as I was searching online for a pair. Anyone selling on here?
 
14179298:moist_velvet said:
damn, that'd feel weird with the rocker having such a sharp angle and the ski have a super short effective edge.

Ski them and you’ll see why- the ski is super stiff so the extreme rocker keeps em relatively playful and at 112 underfoot the short effective edge is just to make em more nimble (someone can correct me if I’m wrong- I’ve only demo’d them once before)

That said I think the extreme-ness of the rocker is more of an advertisement thing, seeing rocker that hard you’ll immediately know that they’re surface- same with orange FKS’s and the square tips of Moment or ON3P
 
14179387:Young_patty said:
Ski them and you’ll see why- the ski is super stiff so the extreme rocker keeps em relatively playful and at 112 underfoot the short effective edge is just to make em more nimble (someone can correct me if I’m wrong- I’ve only demo’d them once before)

That said I think the extreme-ness of the rocker is more of an advertisement thing, seeing rocker that hard you’ll immediately know that they’re surface- same with orange FKS’s and the square tips of Moment or ON3P

I've been skiing One Life's (same ski as the outsider) for like 6 years now, and I really think the abrupt rocker is what makes them work. I think a ski of similar stiffness and similar effective edge and cambered length but with a smoother rocker profile would not ski nearly as well, it seems to me that the abrupt transition really helps to cut into hardpack. They honestly feel like stable snowblades when you are on firm stuff, because of the super short effective edge but with a long radius and much more mass due to the length of ski above the snow. The only time they aren't nimble is when you are really having to whip them around for jump turns in tight chutes, but at the same time they are quite stable if you feel like just pointing straight in choppy shit.

God I fucking love these skis, mine are definitely showing their age with about as much repair material as original material on the bases, if I manage to kill them they are 100% becoming wall art and being replaced with another pair.
 
14179404:No.Quarter said:
I've been skiing One Life's (same ski as the outsider) for like 6 years now, and I really think the abrupt rocker is what makes them work. I think a ski of similar stiffness and similar effective edge and cambered length but with a smoother rocker profile would not ski nearly as well, it seems to me that the abrupt transition really helps to cut into hardpack. They honestly feel like stable snowblades when you are on firm stuff, because of the super short effective edge but with a long radius and much more mass due to the length of ski above the snow. The only time they aren't nimble is when you are really having to whip them around for jump turns in tight chutes, but at the same time they are quite stable if you feel like just pointing straight in choppy shit.

God I fucking love these skis, mine are definitely showing their age with about as much repair material as original material on the bases, if I manage to kill them they are 100% becoming wall art and being replaced with another pair.

Long radius JJ's Hey, as long as one likes them, who cares! Rock on.
 
14179001:CalumSKI said:
Have you not heard?

walmart is huge in the park ski industry

It was only a matter of time after Target got into the game.

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**This post was edited on Oct 2nd 2020 at 3:24:57pm
 
14179404:No.Quarter said:
I've been skiing One Life's (same ski as the outsider) for like 6 years now, and I really think the abrupt rocker is what makes them work. I think a ski of similar stiffness and similar effective edge and cambered length but with a smoother rocker profile would not ski nearly as well, it seems to me that the abrupt transition really helps to cut into hardpack. They honestly feel like stable snowblades when you are on firm stuff, because of the super short effective edge but with a long radius and much more mass due to the length of ski above the snow. The only time they aren't nimble is when you are really having to whip them around for jump turns in tight chutes, but at the same time they are quite stable if you feel like just pointing straight in choppy shit.

God I fucking love these skis, mine are definitely showing their age with about as much repair material as original material on the bases, if I manage to kill them they are 100% becoming wall art and being replaced with another pair.

Bro literally this. Rocker looks weird asf but actually works really well when combined with the stiffness.

To me they don't even feel like snowblades on groomers, just normal skis.
 
14179998:FruitBootPro said:
Bro literally this. Rocker looks weird asf but actually works really well when combined with the stiffness.

To me they don't even feel like snowblades on groomers, just normal skis.

How do they float in pow? Does the "kink" ever feel weird.
 
14180008:SuspiciousFish said:
How do they float in pow? Does the "kink" ever feel weird.

I Borrowed some from a friend a couple of season ago and I hated em. They floated good in pow but were god awful in anything else. I don’t get the appeal at all
 
Skied these for two seasons. I bought them because they were cheap. Floated well enough. In anything other than pow, I felt like the abrupt rocker was a catching/hooking point. I also started riding better skis and never looked back. Definitely had lots of chairlift conversations about the goofy things.
 
Describes the old Surface's quality pretty well. Sound like they have done some major improvement on all levels, stoked on the new content they've been cranking out and the skis have gotten a major overhaul too.
 
Walmart owns moosejaw and has clearance outlets for tons of sources. weird shit ends up on there all the time, they operate like amazon in that way
 
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