Superunknown XII

13381742:Uglyboy said:
Well if you look at super unknown the final competition. It's not Siggers forte, but the other riders it is. Siggers focuses on being a killer rider in the back country. He'll do amazing things and I'm so excited to see him in the future. But the circumstances regarding super unknown means he's at a disadvantage
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You never know man, no need to be so negative for no reason.
 
13381745:pussyfooter said:
You never know man, no need to be so negative for no reason.
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I'm not being negative. I love watching Siggers ride and his content. I'm just starting how super unknown is finally decided puts him at a disadvantage. Siggers will be a huge film name in a few years
 
Gonna post Matt Kaye's superunknown entry that didn't make the cut. Urban wasn't as creative or tech as some of the other entries but nonetheless is really gnarly considering there was never more than 3" of snow on the ground in Minnesota this winter and the kink rails are much burlier than they look. There's been a lack of heavy hitting urban skiers in Minnesota recently but this kid is the future!

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/membervideo/763771.0/Matt-Kaye----Trance-?s=218878&t=6&o=8[/video]
 
13382109:john18061806 said:
Gonna post Matt Kaye's superunknown entry that didn't make the cut. Urban wasn't as creative or tech as some of the other entries but nonetheless is really gnarly considering there was never more than 3" of snow on the ground in Minnesota this winter and the kink rails are much burlier than they look. There's been a lack of heavy hitting urban skiers in Minnesota recently but this kid is the future!

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/membervideo/763771.0/Matt-Kaye----Trance-?s=218878&t=6&o=8[/video]
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Kid has potential but this edit kind of made him look like he was trying to emulate a currently popular style. Not saying it's bad but when fielding talent for a video you want some thing unique.
 
13382214:Saga. said:
Kid has potential but this edit kind of made him look like he was trying to emulate a currently popular style. Not saying it's bad but when fielding talent for a video you want some thing unique.
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Yeah Saga, because NONE of your athletes have forced/emulated styles...
 
Kid has potential but this edit kind of made him look like he was trying to emulate a currently popular style. Not saying it's bad but when fielding talent for a video you want some thing unique.

Yeah lets put him in an Anomie jacket or a Floral riding pullover nobody ever sees those
 
13382109:john18061806 said:
Gonna post Matt Kaye's superunknown entry that didn't make the cut. Urban wasn't as creative or tech as some of the other entries but nonetheless is really gnarly considering there was never more than 3" of snow on the ground in Minnesota this winter and the kink rails are much burlier than they look. There's been a lack of heavy hitting urban skiers in Minnesota recently but this kid is the future!

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/membervideo/763771.0/Matt-Kaye----Trance-?s=218878&t=6&o=8[/video]
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Thanks for posting that was sick. Reminds me of Tom Warnick
 
13381742:Uglyboy said:
Well if you look at super unknown the final competition. It's not Siggers forte, but the other riders it is. Siggers focuses on being a killer rider in the back country. He'll do amazing things and I'm so excited to see him in the future. But the circumstances regarding super unknown means he's at a disadvantage
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13381745:pussyfooter said:
You never know man, no need to be so negative for no reason.
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There have been people that went to the finalists shoot and didn't win that now film with Level 1. Given L1P's history with this contest, literally anything could happen. I would not be surprised if Jonah and Dylan were both filming with Level 1 next season, regardless of the film shoot outcome.
 
Siggers and Lovelace definitely put the most effort into their edits and it shows.

Overall i think siggers should win, but if it's based on a park shoot he might not. Level 1's street crew talent pool is already deep which makes things hard for Geoff, but their crop of backcountry riders is getting older and i think bringing in siggers could create a new rainville/wiley like legend to fill their pow segments for years to come
 
13382109:john18061806 said:
Gonna post Matt Kaye's superunknown entry that didn't make the cut. Urban wasn't as creative or tech as some of the other entries but nonetheless is really gnarly considering there was never more than 3" of snow on the ground in Minnesota this winter and the kink rails are much burlier than they look. There's been a lack of heavy hitting urban skiers in Minnesota recently but this kid is the future!

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/membervideo/763771.0/Matt-Kaye----Trance-?s=218878&t=6&o=8[/video]
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Wow I think this kid should have been a semifinalist for sure
 
Also, i'm sorry but park rails should be an automatic DQ from SU in future years, unless it's something so absurd like candide's recent 810 to rail, otherwise it's just filler and sort of says you weren't willing to go through enough effort to put though a really solid entry
 
13383049:dbchili said:
Also, i'm sorry but park rails should be an automatic DQ from SU in future years, unless it's something so absurd like candide's recent 810 to rail, otherwise it's just filler and sort of says you weren't willing to go through enough effort to put though a really solid entry
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Disagree. If you are truly "super unknown" you should be able to put every one of your best shots in an edit, regardless of the location, into an edit and blow people's minds.
 
13383049:dbchili said:
Also, i'm sorry but park rails should be an automatic DQ from SU in future years, unless it's something so absurd like candide's recent 810 to rail, otherwise it's just filler and sort of says you weren't willing to go through enough effort to put though a really solid entry
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Some guys don't have the snow or a lot of opportunities to hit urban. And it's pretty easy to see someone who has the potential to be really good at urban
 
13383045:Tanner-D said:
Wow I think this kid should have been a semifinalist for sure
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100% rail tricks. this edit didn't prove he can actually ski, let alone do cool shit in the air. there's a good reason this didn't make the cut. berman wants the whole package.
 
That "backcountry line" should not be in there. Dude was skiing in some TERRIBLE avy conditions, was backseat as hell, and almost ate shit a lot. The fluidity was also pretty low...
 
can someone explain how gabe's style is bad? it was creative and unique, two things we claim to embrace. i mean blind 360 surface swap to handrag pretzel forward. Very few people are thinking of skiing this way
 
13382109:john18061806 said:
Gonna post Matt Kaye's superunknown entry that didn't make the cut. Urban wasn't as creative or tech as some of the other entries but nonetheless is really gnarly considering there was never more than 3" of snow on the ground in Minnesota this winter and the kink rails are much burlier than they look. There's been a lack of heavy hitting urban skiers in Minnesota recently but this kid is the future!

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/membervideo/763771.0/Matt-Kaye----Trance-?s=218878&t=6&o=8[/video]
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that was sick... i wish i could have b dogs for my urban skis
 
13386919:e~b said:
can someone explain how gabe's style is bad? it was creative and unique, two things we claim to embrace. i mean blind 360 surface swap to handrag pretzel forward.
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Style isn't the tricks he did, that's more tech/creativity it's the arm thing he's got going that's rubbing people the wrong way. I really wish people would stop bitching about style, some people forced it in their early days and can't help it later on.
 
13387144:Tanner-D said:
If you don't vote for that line as the best trick you aint thinking straight
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I don't understand why this is getting down voted, the backcountry line was by far the gnarliest clip of them all, I mean the small avy to a huge air deserves some fucking respect.
 
13387509:Bonzalo said:
I don't understand why this is getting down voted, the backcountry line was by far the gnarliest clip of them all, I mean the small avy to a huge air deserves some fucking respect.
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The line itself was good sure, but his style was way off. You wouldn't give praise to a park trick with shitty style, this is no different. Way backseat, really washed out turns, no attempt at pole planting.
 
13387509:Bonzalo said:
I don't understand why this is getting down voted, the backcountry line was by far the gnarliest clip of them all, I mean the small avy to a huge air deserves some fucking respect.
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The line was there, but he skied it like shit. Backseat, no fluidity, almost went down. turning with his upper body. I'm honestly surprised he made it down.
 
How did Jordan Clarke only get an Honourable mention. Doubles in the back country. Gnarly lines. I'd be stoked to see to see him in a level one movie
 
13383049:dbchili said:
Also, i'm sorry but park rails should be an automatic DQ from SU in future years, unless it's something so absurd like candide's recent 810 to rail, otherwise it's just filler and sort of says you weren't willing to go through enough effort to put though a really solid entry
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I'm going to have to disagree with you. Yes throwing down on an urban rail is better and more impressive but if you can throw down on a tech rail then most likely you can throw down on an urban rail.
 
13389728:Uglyboy said:
I'm going to have to disagree with you. Yes throwing down on an urban rail is better and more impressive but if you can throw down on a tech rail then most likely you can throw down on an urban rail.
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park rails are almost never that tech. And the ammount of skill/dedication put in to getting an urban shot cant be compared with a park rail.
 
13390499:MaineLandCollab said:
park rails are almost never that tech. And the ammount of skill/dedication put in to getting an urban shot cant be compared with a park rail.
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but you cannot expect everybody to make a 2 minute edit of straight urban... a few good urban shots can make an edit for sure, but park rails should not be belittled because its not in the streets
 
dub post but just re-watched every finalist edit and heres my take imo:

-Siggers went huge and made a quality edit but the only way i see him having a chance of winning is if carinthia somehow makes their setup as backcountry orientated as snoqualmie made it last year.

-Ben Smith is getting no credit and had arguably the most technical tricks with style.

-Jonah Williams used his left over footage, but he's just really fricking good

-Gabe does have that weird and generic arm swing, but his creativity and hand drags were insane. I think he will fit right in with level 1, although there were no urban shots

-Alec Nelson... i watched his edit a few times. by far my favorite, 4 on shift blind 2 couldn't have been cleaner. Plus those tricks he put in on that backcountry (hood??) kicker were really dope.

-Wagstrom got through to finals with his lsm style. Solid edit but i feel like a few semi finalists could have easily took his spot.

-Kazakov had a good mix of urban and backcountry but he didn't bring anything special to the table.

Swadburg's style was really nice, i enjoyed his edit. Im not sure if he has too great of a chance of winning, but anything could happen.

-Geoff put out one of the best urban edits I've ever seen. That edit could hold its own in a level 1 film. I think he has one of the better chances.

in conclusion, there was no edit that could stand up to brower's edit last year, but i think the field is stacked throughout this year
 
13390982:e~b said:
but you cannot expect everybody to make a 2 minute edit of straight urban... a few good urban shots can make an edit for sure, but park rails should not be belittled because its not in the streets
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I can and do expect that. Rarely does level 1 film park rails in there movies. I can see having park jumps in your edit to prove you can perform at the shoots. But imho the rails should be urban...
 
When are people going to realize that winning doesn't hinge on their performance at the park shoot? The edit is still the main factor in choosing the winner. I mean look at last year, Magnus wasn't the best at the park shoot but he had the illest video and that's what counted.
 
13391620:loganimlach said:
When are people going to realize that winning doesn't hinge on their performance at the park shoot? The edit is still the main factor in choosing the winner. I mean look at last year, Magnus wasn't the best at the park shoot but he had the illest video and that's what counted.
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*2 years ago, sorry
 
13391620:loganimlach said:
When are people going to realize that winning doesn't hinge on their performance at the park shoot? The edit is still the main factor in choosing the winner. I mean look at last year, Magnus wasn't the best at the park shoot but he had the illest video and that's what counted.
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this is true but i always was under the assumption that the park shoot was more important than the edit. but hey you won super unknown so i gotta take your word for it
 
13391620:loganimlach said:
When are people going to realize that winning doesn't hinge on their performance at the park shoot? The edit is still the main factor in choosing the winner. I mean look at last year, Magnus wasn't the best at the park shoot but he had the illest video and that's what counted.
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Was under the impression that other finalists voted for winner at end of finals?
 
13391960:FunkmasterFleck said:
Was under the impression that other finalists voted for winner at end of finals?
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That's correct, and they vote with a heavy weight on the video. The park shoot is more of an avenue of exposure for 10 ams and a means of creating video content than a contest. Save that shit for the Olympics.
 
13383049:dbchili said:
Also, i'm sorry but park rails should be an automatic DQ from SU in future years, unless it's something so absurd like candide's recent 810 to rail, otherwise it's just filler and sort of says you weren't willing to go through enough effort to put though a really solid entry
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A lot of places didn't get a lot of snow this year, unless you were in New England. I think that's why we're seeing a lot more park stuff in the edits this year than in previous years.
 
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