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both. both sick as fuck.

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that is quite jibtastic, sir.

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Hibachi King wasn’t worth watching and isn’t worth purchasing.

Why?

Poached shots, dark shots, competition shots, no synchronization to the music, poor choice of music (the use of Tarantino’s music from Kill Bill was terrible), no flow between sections, repeated shots, the “good� footage is imitated from other higher name productions, and the overall production lacked any originality.

Gwyne seemed better, hardly better, because it stuck to the smaller named riders and didn’t try (as hard) to shoot big named pros by poaching riders, shooting events from afar, and using all Jibfest footage for personal production.

This might be hurtful to H3O, but selling Hibachi King is hurtful to skiing.

 
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yeah thanks..watch the movie again and see if i shot anything 'from far'...its 80% amateurs from the east coast so oh well, wont hurt my feelings, haha

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er, 'from far' i mean not telling people I was there..so try again, theres not a single shot in that movie 'poached'..but whatever, haha cant make everyone happy

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'telling people you are there' and 'poached' arn't really the same thing. there's a reason why riders work with a video company, its so they can put together the best video segement possible. 'being there' at big events and photoshoots doesn't really amount to shit for a movie part. if you walk up to a rider and ask them 'hey can i take some shots of you for a movie i'm making?' (which you have proven that you've done time and time again, and theres no need to really get into it) do you really expect someone to say no to that?

BAD STUFF:

i think a lot of the big name sections in Hibachi King made the riders look a lot worse than they really are through a combination of clips that don't belong in a movie (for riders at that level anyways) and a combination of bad shots and edits.

if you want to see Corey Vanular, Travis Redd, Craig Coker, or Peter Olenick go get High 5 where you'll see the same shit from the big photo shoots with way better shots and editing, and in High 5 the stuff from the public shoots/events only makes up tiny portions of the riders sections, instead of the majority of it as in Hibachi King.

same goes for Hibbert, whose 'dramatic return' to video in Hibachi King is comprised entirely of shots from Freeskier Jibfest(s) and other events, as well as shots of sketched landings and other questionalble clips that don't belong in a movie (atleast if you're actually trying to promote the riders). The random clips that Hibbert has scattered around throughout Forward are much better than anything in his section in HK.

GOOD STUFF:

big names aside, the '80%' locals were what I was really looking forward to in this movie. the Curry / Wiechecki / Gillern section was def. the highlight of the locals, featuring a lot of urban shots and a ton of non-event footage it was obvious that these were 'real' sections in the movie, except for the fact that they were all bunched together in one song and the whole thing is available for download (no different than the movie version) from the H30 website.

if there's any solid reason for buying Hibachi King, its for the girls. i was stoked to see the up and coming female riders ripping it up. i really would have liked to see full sections of Amanda Cola, Iris Dougherty, etc since they shot with H30 so much this year. but even though all the girls got grouped into one section it still made me feel like i didn't totally waste my money (yeah i actually bought it).

OTHER STUFF:

-the intro is made up entirely of shots that appear later in the movie (even cutaways are repeated)

-just at first glance i noticed 3 riders names mis-spelled, something that you think would have been caught / corrected if the riders have actaully seen their sections. one name was spelled wrong that was in the movie last year and spelled wrong a completely different way this time!

thats all i'm gonna say about shooting / editing since i'm making a movie of my own i dont really want to get into it because i have my own personal preferences as far as that goes, but i would easily agree with everything that freeski124 said above.

i havn't seen Super yet, but just by looking at the list of riders and knowing that Francis Wolf / YSP have been working with them outside of big events and competitions would make me think that Super will be a lot better, and a lot less poached than Hibachi King.

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wow....kinda harsh on h3o guys....youdo realize that its only anthonies 2nd movie.....and that it does a great job shoing tlent of people nobody has heard of.....and it also documents alot of the biug shoots and events that happened......just becasue he doesant film full time with all the big names doesnt meen its not good to see the best footy from alot of the big events

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I haven't seen either, but I sitll wanna get both. Both look sick. From what neil said about 'poached' shots.... it's not paoched in my mind when he's invited to shoot there. Yes, they are in other movies as well, but it's not like he jsut randomly showed up and hid and the woods and shot video. He did it legitly.

-Pat Melvin
 
notr true. from the shots I've seen, it's pretty good footy. Also, I knwo there are some other companies that 'bought' footy from him, so it cna't be that bad.

-Pat Melvin
 
wasnt anthony filming everything himselflast year. It would be pretty damn hard to get all of the best shots with only one person filming.

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i just want to see the movie.. is my copy ever coming?

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i would say this debate excludes the obvious movie in its category...'Wicked'. Not only does it genuinely showcase the who and whats of last season's east coast scene, but SaS makes no attempt to include filler footage of random 'pros' in random western parks etc. Also i would expect a more authentic soundtrack and a true film-making depiction of skiing in the east. I'm sure it will be available to the public very soon, so wait for Wicked.

 
here's an idea. don't buy either and send your money to me?

honestly though you guys are being pretty critical. i've been filming and editing (a lot) for three years and I know I could never throw together anything close to either of these films. so support the small guys and buy 'em both.

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Whats the return policy on Hibachi King. I ordered it, watched it one time, and decided that I'd be better off never watching it again.

H3o, can I send it back?

 
don't buy from h3o. they steal footage.

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as in jeff curry and john weicheki's entire section.

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um, they sent me the tape with the footage they shot..no guns involved, hung out with john twice in last two weeks, he seemed really happy with his segment

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everyone's hating on anthony for what he's done... but no one really understands how much he put into this. NO, he didn't steal the footy. As far as I know, he shot or had someone shoot all the footy for him. He dind't take it from other companies. Sounds like he used some of the riders own footage. Props to anthony. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

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well curry wasn't happy at all. i talked to him a couple weeks ago and he was pissed.

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curry told me there was supposed to be a trade and you just ignored him.

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You have to be harsh when someone is trying to make a living off something... the footage is pretty bad, in some you cant even see the skier, b-roll taken from stalking pros while they eat lunch in the lodge. There is obviously some technical knowledge missing (how to use the camera properly) And maybe its ONLY his second movie, but if you're going to sell something with your name on it, expect a little criticism.

 
i enjoyed hb and thought that anthony did a solid job....i love the footy of the eastern kids..and u can't tell me that anthony 'stole' the footy from iannick's seg...it kicked ass

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stole doesn't refer to taking a DV tape from someone's bag while they're not looking.

the point people are trying to make is that h3o did not work with many of the athletes in the movie, or do any shoots with them.

An example would be the first section, scott hibbert's, of which every shot is taken from a competition, or event, such as the freeskier jibfest.

 
Seems like the people at SAS are a little sore.

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they shouldnt be beacuse wicked will def be alot beter then hibatchi king becease of the editing and supper will be beter because of the quality of the shots of the riders and will prob have decent editing as far as my opinion of habitchi king i dono if he was poaching footage or trying to be artsy but next time baccon try not to film through a forest try a small branch or something and hibatchi kings music was very below averge and the editing was weak

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haha, im not gonna dignify many of the complaits, as mostly there are mount snow related

i appreciate everyone who bought the movie and said they enjoyed it...unfortunately some people wont like that, thats a known fact, not everyone likes everything.. i personal know that the cinematography is on the level, ive watched the damn thing enough to know, haha...competition is good, and i wish SAS the best of luck with what they do...end of discussion on my end

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sas i think that was a low blow on h30. to be a fellow film maker you realize how much time goes into makeing something like that. i lease expect you to dis some ones hard work. and i doubt taht high 5 wil have better editing because well, umm, bermans editing blows. get hibatchi king, the quality is really good and the skiing donesnt look to bad either

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I don't think anyone's sore, just being honest. That movie was absolutely horrible.

Soundtrack? Two songs from Kill Bill - Hibachi King in no way comes close to good enough to reference those movies. In addition, 2 of the songs were from last year's snowboard movie Video Gangs, Hibbert's Deltron song was in Royalty, and I'm pretty sure Paradise's song was in one of the recent Volume's. The point being that it was extremely unoriginal.

Footage? Yes, the vast majority of the shots are from comps and big events. It looks as if very little of the movie is from original, private shoots with the athletes. Also, many clips are used multiple times throughout the movie, and it doesnt look like there was much discretion in picking shots. For instance, having 3 shots from the same angle in the pipe almost consecutively in a segment.

I don't know what level you think the cinematography was on, but it wasn't on the level of any good ski movie's I've seen. The editing in hibachi king isn't either. Using reverse motion of a skier to match scratching in the soundtrack? Multiple times? It seemed pretty lame to me. As said above, many of the shots were extremely dark - it looked as if the exposure was not set right. Sooo many shots of a dark, dark skier against a dark background. Or hibbert's section having about 8 shots in a row on the covered bridge rail? Spice things up a bit.

Hibachi King was uninspired, bland, and lacking of creativity. That's what I thought anyway, you're opinion may differ.

 
fuck it.........buy wicked.......and super.....or jsut give lots and lots of money to neil!!

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music wise:

the kill bill thing was for like 10 seconds of an intro

sorry we don't see snowboard movies because we don't buy them

didn't realize the del song was in royalty only seen it twice and that was long ago

and neither of us have ever seen a volume magazine dvd

as for everything else you said. whatever. i'm done here. thanks. bye.

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perhaps watching more than just a few ski films can up the creativity level. I personaly feel that snowboard films are further along than ski films, and should be used for insperation.

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If you didn't see Video Gangs, how did you end up using songs from 2 segments in it?

And if you're trying to make skiing movies, wouldn't you want to see as many similiar movies (both skiing AND snowboarding) as possible? I'm sure people that make horror movies are well versed in other horror movies, same for any genre.

 
i guess i just should have said 'i didnt like this movie' but i figured i might as well back it up with some reasons why.

next time when someone asks for a review of a movie i'll be sure not to say anything.

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y would u even think about hating on berman...r u fucking retarded...as far as super or hibatchi king goes, i hav hibatchi king cuz my friends in it, and i agree the local shit isnt bad, the pro shots just seem akward chris/scotty/leonards part is dope tho, its a good watch i jus wouldnt pay 20 for it

don't worry im not racist i have a colored tv

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