Super Bowl XLVI - Pats vs. Giants

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On a healthy ankle Gronk probably could've gotten to that last hail mary, he kinda stuttered before diving for the tip.
 
two fumbles that bounced right back to you, thats plain luck.

both teams were pretty much even. this little luck was the deciding factor.
 
Wait how did the pats get to the super bowl again? Oh yeah a dropped pass and a missed 30 yard field goal, dont bitch about luck now, the giants clearly outplayed you once again.

And yes, I am a jets fan
 
ok, how did the giants get into the playoffs? miles austin not getting a sure-fire TD pass? what about the 49ers backup punt returner fucking some shit up? shut the fuck up. this isnt about the earlier games. i actually talked to my brother how its actually nice to have the pats in the game because they sure had a little luck in the ravens game.

but the super bowl has nothing to do with earlier games. i dont care about welkers drop or whatever because that is obviously self-inflicted. but when you force two fumbles, its just luck where the fucking ball bounces.

i admit that the pats offense did too less all game, but they went up against a good D. i liked how the pats D controlled the game for the most parts. giants had a lot of possessions and couldnt manage more than 21 points, they scored a similar amount against the 49ers and more against the packers, both superior D apparently.

the only thing that 100% comes down to luck or not is where a fucking ball bounces when it hits the turf. and the giants had it.

yeah, no big deal though. i dont like how careers of a quarterback (or other players) are defined by missed plays of his receivers or kickers or other teammates. i dont see how eli manning played better than brady in this game, just because manning has the W at the end. i dont like people talking about how nicks, manningham and cruz are better receivers than randy moss just because they have the ring.

28 teams watch the championship round from home, 30 the superbowl. 31 the super bowl parade. whenever you end up in those last games, you did something right, but you are not necessarily a better team then others. what i mean by that is, when you would play a 32-team playoff format, i am pretty sure that once every few years a 12+ seed would win the super bowl.

football is a game of inches and a game of luck. i am actually kind of tired how much a factor luck is when two really good teams go against each other.

overall. congrats to the giants, they beat good teams and never layed an egg. made plays when they needed them and had little luck when it was time. thats how you win a championship.
 
yeah. obviously they had the chance to seal it. but no patriots fan can use the welker play as an excuse because that is a mistake.
 
gronk obviously was a decoy. i think they should have kept him out of the game. he was a no-show and the giants probably knew that pretty early.

 
I'll never blame a game on dropped catches. You fucking catch the ball when you have too. In that respect, we lost where the giants won. Not stoked on our vaunted team and legacy looking mortal. Maybe a 19-0 run next year would make up for the last few years.
 
Hahahahahahahahaha... Oh Jets fans. The gingers of the sports world.

Listen, it was a great game regardless, but was there really a "better team"? If that bobbled end zone pass goes the other way, would that change our peceptions of who really was the best team yesterday? Only if you're a retard. That shit was crazy close and really did come down to the luck of the bobble on that last pass. Do it again and it could just as easily come out the other way and lolfuckingtoolbags who think anything else, or who are trying to be clever or douchey because their team got beat weeks ago and they want a redemption poke.

I say two great teams, def a fuckin nailbiter to the very end and one for the books. Isn't that what you want in a super bowl? Fuck it, there's always next year... Unless you're a Jets fan, that is.
 
the giants' recievers were on their game. they missed very few passes. the pats missed a couple crucial passes that their receivers complete 99% of the time. even the commentators said welker catches that ball 100 times out of 100. i think the pats had a ridiculous amount of pressure on them and it showed, and the giants got extremely lucky. the safety still ruined the game imo, that fucking sucked and killed the entire 1st quarter. if gronk had been full strength and hadn't been treated like a decoy with 1 leg and no arms then it would've been a different game

it's too bad. the giants were not the better team, but i guess that's not what really matters. they were extremely lucky that all of their coaching errors and dumb mistakes especially in the 2nd half didn't come back to haunt them.
 
yeah right. it was a close game and a bounce here or there and you somehow are a "superior" team/QB/coach, etc. both teams played well and limited the other teams strengths.

i dont like peyton, but its sick how people think now that eli is better then him.

bottom line: no team is as good or bad as the media makes them, not even when you win the superbowl or go 14-2/15-1/16-0 during the regular season. any given sunday.
 
that's what annoys me about a game that could go so easily in either direction. everyone now claims the giants are the best team with the best coach, when in fact they were responsible for the waste of timeouts due to stupid clock errors, extra men on the field, an early touchdown giving the pats time for a last drive, and a bunch of dumb penalties that, to their dumb luck, didn't bite them in the ass when those things are needed

frankly the giants won because things just went the right way for them and the wrong way for the pats, like cruz barely securing the td pass or welker missing the catch he makes 100% of the time, or the unfortunate safety that gave them the ball the entire 1st quarter.

i think in terms of composure, player skill, organization, and coaching, the patriots are a much stronger team, but it just goes to show that a game of football can be determined by little things, much more so than a lot of other sports
 
Exactly. It's a game of skill, but there's a lot of luck involved as well. It cracks me up when people latch onto a W and try to shit on another team that obviously was right there the entire game and just as easily could have taken it in the last play.

Anyways, I think it's interesting to see where people go with it during the aftermath. It tells you a lot about them.
 
extreme rage and extreme joy both lead to irrationality. the only people who will interpret the game properly are the rare few who both know football who also don't give a shit about the results
 
Eli made better throws than Brady. Giants receivers made more plays than the Pats receivers. Giants running Game was better. Time of possession was significantly better. Defense got it done. Giants scored more points. better team.

Heres another fun fact: The only above 500 team the Pats beat this year was a Joe Flacco led Ravens in the AFC championship due to a dropped td pass and missed field goal.

I've been saying this to ignorant New England fans for a while but if you truly believe the Patriots were the better team, you need to learn a lot more about the game of football.

I'm happy that Barstool made "Revenge" and "Dynasty" shirts for the games though. I might purchase one for the irony. Thats the difference between New England fans and other nfl fans. You love to talk shit before your team has the chance to back it up. Thats why I waited until after this game to make this post.

I'm just proud of the proud of the Giants, they deserved it, its been an amazing season.
 
yeah, kind of annoying, i agree.

when both teams go head to head the whole game (49ers-giants, ravens-patrios), you probably win because you either have the ball at last or you dont make THAT mistake.

giants did enough to lose this game. i am a chargers fan and people always talk like "you cant have fumbles, penalties and all that stuff if you expect to win games". so the giants had bad game management, two fumbles and bradshaw boneheadedly scores a TD. they couldnt do horseshit against the apparently worst secondary in the league. thats normally enough to lose a game. eli being MVP is a joke, but that award is a joke anyways.

the pats didnt play too good either. but expecting that the giants would win 10 of 10 rematches is pretty arrogant.
 
yeah, the giants didnt totally post "SB champions" a day early on their website.

shut the fuck up. everybody has those shirts because when you print them after the game you lose a lot of potential sales.

this "deserved" thing is bullshit too. i dont like the packers, but for what its worth, they probably "deserved" it more judging from the regular season. giants had a lot of bad games and only made the playoffs on a missed play by romo/austin.

whats the difference in one bad game here or there?

 
the giants did a better job possessing the ball because they had it the entire 1st quarter due to the safety. i fully agree their receivers completed more passes and eli uncharacteristically didn't throw 3 interceptions and bradshaw only fumbled once. the patriots missed a lot of chances they should have taken, but their 96 yard drive was indicative of the kind of organized, smart, calm, and effective play that should be expected out of them due to their superior coaching where they don't have to rely on things "going their way."

i agree the giants played a better game, and great for them for winning, but they played better because the patriots played worse. i don't think either team was really that impressive. eli stepped it up in the 4th quarter, there's no denying that, but that should've been answered by the pats when they were handed all the time they needed on a silver platter after the giants dumb errors on their final drive. the fact that they didn't get in the endzone on the last drive was lucky for the giants. they left it up to chance and fortunately for them the patriots fucked up.
 
and overall, if you reach 5 SB with this playoffs system in 11 years, youre doing something right. only one can win and thats sports.

you cry, you laugh, you cheer and wrap your hands around in disbelief. you hug and high five complete strangers and can talk about it forever.

and as another guy up top said, you really find out what type of person you are in such a situation. sore losers are bad, but overly cocky winners are probably the worst.
 
all this talk of who is better blah blah blah
Giants won, they have the ring and the trophy, thus making them the best team on the field on Super Bowl sunday
 
u mad?

the Giants played the packers in the playoffs and kicked their asses when the refs tried to hand them the game. what are you talking about? I knew they would too, just like I knew they would win last night. The g men have as much talent as any team in the nfl and proved it in the playoffs. If you knew jack shit about football, you would know that we had a rough regular season due to a lot of crucial injuries, but never gave up and managed to play to our potential when it counted and came out on top. Have some fucking respect. They deserved it.
 
can you please give me betting tips next season? i mean you predicted two games right, so you seem pretty legit.

noone "deserves" it. the team that eventually comes out on top has the right to brag, but that doesnt mean that they had the unique and heart-warming story to go along with it.

what if romo completes that pass and coughlin gets fired? what if the ravens complete that pass and win it? do such minor things mean that one team "deserves" it more? rivers doesnt fumble that snap against KC? eagles not losing all those fumbles unlike the giants in the SB? the season couldve changed on 1000 rolls of a dice. be happy that your team played well enough to not be killed by a few rolls against them, but dont act like they will go 19-0 next year.

not to mix something up. sorry for participating in this heated argument. there is only one way to determine the best team objectively and within a short period of time and thats what the giants are for now.
 
hahahah Gisele is talking shit on the pat's receivers, yea its their fault your husband made the biggest fail a quarterback can possibly make on the very first offensive play, then threw a ball 10 yards short of an injured receiver in crunch time
 
there isn't a whole lot of women in her league overall but there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of women better looking than her
 
Good post, and I was pretty upset when Eli was burning time outs because of poor clock management, it should have cost him the game, and it would have cost him the game if Welker would have made that catch.

It always comes down to who makes their plays in the clutch moments, and the Giants did and they won.

All in all it was a great game, I could watch those two in the superbowl again.

Maybe next year the Vikings will make it (dreaming)
 
exactly, errors like that should cost a team a game when it's down to a 1 point spread in the last 2 minutes of the superbowl, the giants were just lucky it didn't. plain and simple. those are errors that belichick is less likely to succumb to. i don't think those timeouts were eli's fault, he just had to call them to avoid the penalties, but it's basic discipline to line up and snap the ball instead of celebrating about a good catch

and it's not just welker, there were 3 incomplete passes that game that the pats receivers catch every single time, it was just either pressure of the moment or bad luck. but it was interesting to see how brady manifested his stress by throwing the ball as hard as he possibly could. it was very noticeable on the last drive that he was gunning it to avoid interceptions, but that's gonna make it harder for his receivers

pisses me off that gisele is shitting on the receivers though. she has no business doing that. welker was the first to say he's caught that same ball 1000 times in practice so why should some bimbo supermodel shit on him for it. i think it was a mistake to play gronk that much. he's amazing but he was basically a wasted man out there and caused hernandez and welker to attract more defense
 
So the Giants should be discredited for making their own mistakes and should also be discredited because of the mistakes made by the Patriots? not a very objective analysis.

 
in this scenario they shouldn't be discredited for their own mistakes since, objectively, they had no bearing in the end result, so therefore the giants' sloppier playing style made no difference in this game. the reason it made no difference was because the patriots made a bunch of crucial mistakes as well which gave the giants a buffer for their mistakes

the giants deserve credit where credit is due. i was surprised and impressed with many of their completions and eli was connecting better with his receivers than i'd seen all season. nothing related to that discredits the giants, since i think the patriots played good defense too
 
i thought the way to win is to capitalize on other people's mistakes. don't know why you're debating this.

directed at patriot fans.

excuses are like assholes..
 
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