Suicide

[iced]

I realize its an odd topic to throw up on a ski forum, but im curious if anyone else has had experience it/been affected by it. This is my only internet acc where I dont know people from my day to day on, so yeah thats why my thoughts are ending up here

sorry

 

[GayWolf420]

It needs to be addressed more.

https://tormentmag.com/p/the-undercurrents-of-living-the-powder-dream/#:~:text=Suicide%20rates%20in%20ski%20towns&text=From%20Vail%2C%20South%20Lake%20Tahoe,in%20these%20towns%20is%20alarming.

Ski Towns especially have higher suicide rates than bigger cities. This could maybe also be said about small town, USA in general. But yeah, These are places a lot of us frequent and are community members of. Mental Health is a huge issue within this industry and we've lost a lot of great people due to it.

Sure, we may be having an incredible winter out west, but reality sets in as soon as you come home down off the mountain and you still want to put a gun in your mouth. Lack of resources and states with ski towns ranking in the top 10 like Utah for instance for suicides doesn't help either. Lots of other possible things I think too like extreme wealth disparities, Cost of Living being unsustainable, and literally being worked like a slave by an industry that cares more about shareholders and profits than the people making it happen for them. I could go on for days.

**This post was edited on Mar 20th 2023 at 7:29:43pm

 

[hotdog.]

It needs to be addressed more.

https://tormentmag.com/p/the-undercurrents-of-living-the-powder-dream/#:~:text=Suicide%20rates%20in%20ski%20towns&text=From%20Vail%2C%20South%20Lake%20Tahoe,in%20these%20towns%20is%20alarming.

Ski Towns especially have higher suicide rates than bigger cities. This could maybe also be said about small town, USA in general. But yeah, These are places a lot of us frequent and are community members of. Mental Health is a huge issue within this industry and we've lost a lot of great people due to it.

Sure, we may be having an incredible winter out west, but reality sets in as soon as you come home down off the mountain and you still want to put a gun in your mouth. Lack of resources and states with ski towns ranking in the top 10 like Utah for instance for suicides doesn't help either. Lots of other possible things I think too like extreme wealth disparities, Cost of Living being unsustainable, and literally being worked like a slave by an industry that cares more about shareholders and profits than the people making it happen for them. I could go on for days.

**This post was edited on Mar 20th 2023 at 7:29:43pm

He’s probably not trying to absorb your issues or find more reasons…

OP, if you need people to talk to, my DMs are open. Lost a close friend to suicide, and have had my own struggles with depression, as most have.

you’re not alone, it doesn’t solve anything, it takes a horrific toll on the people around you

 

[GayWolf420]

He’s probably not trying to absorb your issues or find more reasons…

OP, if you need people to talk to, my DMs are open. Lost a close friend to suicide, and have had my own struggles with depression, as most have.

you’re not alone, it doesn’t solve anything, it takes a horrific toll on the people around you

These are issues everywhere, my friend. Not just mine. I struggle too and just wanted to shed light.

 

[hotdog.]

double posted from mobile

**This post was edited on Mar 20th 2023 at 9:00:02pm

 

[GrapeHunter]

ive been affected by seeing videos and photos of it on the internet. shits fucked

unpopular opinion, but suicide is extremely selfish in my opinion. you waste yourself to get relief from the pain that is life, and in turn push all your pain onto the people that love you, multiplied by two. not to mention the poor soul that has to come across your body at the scene of your suicide, however that may be.

if you want to kill yourself, talk to anybody about it, get some meds, get some help, and be proactive in making your life better. and before you all get at me saying yOu CaNt cOnTrOl iT, It JuSt hApPeNs, I GET THAT. but life also happens and you cant control it, so fuggup

 

[ASSholebomber22]

Dial 988 if you need to talk to someone. Real life pros instead of randos on retardpotheadskiers.com.

Gl with whatever you're goin thru.

 

[WoFIowz]

In what context are you asking? Reddit has a TON of subs and support on this in addition to the standard national hotlines that are anonymous. If you are considering this, don't. Just don't. It's not worth it.

Also people closest to you are likely more willing and able to help than you think. It might seem demoralizing but talk with friends and family. They'll help.

**This post was edited on Mar 20th 2023 at 11:45:19pm

 

[ASSholebomber22]

In what context are you asking? Reddit has a TON of subs and support on this in addition to the standard national hotlines that are anonymous. If you are considering this, don't. Just don't. It's not worth it.

Also people closest to you are likely more willing and able to help than you think. It might seem demoralizing but talk with friends and family. They'll help.

**This post was edited on Mar 20th 2023 at 11:45:19pm

I wish you stayed on reddit for good

 

[BigPurpleSkiSuit]

Yeah, I had one friend pass this way during the summer. I can't say we were terribly close, but had certainly shared a few beers and talked fairly regularly during the wintertime. It was a real shock when I found out, as he was the first person I knew who died that way. I went to a celebration of life for him, and it was nice to hang with the community of people up at Snowbird who knew him. I personally don't really believe in any afterlife, and it was terrible thinking about how he wasn't going to be around anymore. We did something where we all stood in a circle outside and told stories we had of him from past days and laughed a bit together thinking about the good times. Then when his mom stood up to talk, everyone's eyes watered and any happiness in sharing those memories we had amongst us there died too. She simply said, "I just wish he could be here to see this, how many people here loved and cared about him." Then we all cried, really hard.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. You're not helping anyone in the situation including yourself. Life always gets better somehow, I've seen and heard of rock bottoms so low you wouldn't believe them. If you find yourself thinking about it, talk to someone, please, I'm begging you. Remember that there are people who love you, have loved you, and will love you in the future. Suicide is something that needs to be talked about more, and addressed way, way more seriously. It absolutely sucks thinking that someone you knew, and cared about just isn't there anymore. It's like there's a void, a dark iron weight, filling a space that was once lit.

Rest in peace, Scotty. We all miss you. Still can't believe you aren't here for the best season of our lives.

 

[theabortionator]

A friend of mine at the mtn shot himself in November here. Another friend I'm not sure but good chance he killed himself. Details were sketchy. I know what happened just not the why. That was in October.

I've dealt with some gnar shit since I was 12 or 13. Surprised I've made it this far. Actually some people have been trying to help me get into therapy. So might if that a spin if I can navigate american health care and figure it all out.

It's good to see the stigma dropping around it. The worst thing to me is when somebody kills themselves and people come out swining and judgemental. Especially people that didn't even know them. Idk. I get it. It fucking sucks, but people talk about being selfish. You know whats selfish? Looking at a dead person, ignoring anything they felt and saying "they're so selfish for doing that".

I hope we can get wider access to mental health options. It's starting to happen. Unfortunately the most is from the grassroots. There's a cool outlet a friend is doing on Monday's called "Were all mental" check it out. I haven't been getting to it much because I'm trying to zen out on mondays and not think about hard shit but its cool. Can share or just listen. It's zoom based woth a discord and other stuff.

Idk, be present, enjoy time with your friends, take the selfie with your friend, don't ever feel to weird to tell your friend you love them. Life is short!!

Hang in there

 

[BigPurpleSkiSuit]

Love you too Borty

 

[Newsheepers]

I have an extremely unpopular opinion-- I really think we should just let people kill themselves if they want to. I think it's wildly selfish to keep people here for your sake and to marginalize their suffering/and or prolong it. Let people choose when and how they want to die.

I somewhat agree because there are people that think everything is against them when in reality they probably get everything handed to them, but then they get the wrong color bmw for Christmas they start wearing all black, painting their nails black, acting depressed because they think its cool. Then they tell people they wanna kill themselves and all I have to say to that is okay, because its fcking annoying and cringe, like just do it then and stfu.

 

[Newsheepers]

doesn't your family or relatives owe money for suicide or am I wrong?

 

[hotdog.]

I have an extremely unpopular opinion-- I really think we should just let people kill themselves if they want to. I think it's wildly selfish to keep people here for your sake and to marginalize their suffering/and or prolong it. Let people choose when and how they want to die.

Most people who kill themselves dont WANT to die. They just see no other viable options for continuing.

People are free to do what they want. But to say that someone who is struggling and having suicidal thoughts should just go ahead and do it already is one of the dumbest takes i've ever heard.

 

[hotdog.]

doesn't your family or relatives owe money for suicide or am I wrong?

I mean they have to bury you. But other than that, no.

 

[switchlip2]

If you ever wanna talk man, you can pm me whenever man

 

[theabortionator]

I have an extremely unpopular opinion-- I really think we should just let people kill themselves if they want to. I think it's wildly selfish to keep people here for your sake and to marginalize their suffering/and or prolong it. Let people choose when and how they want to die.

I somewhat agree because there are people that think everything is against them when in reality they probably get everything handed to them, but then they get the wrong color bmw for Christmas they start wearing all black, painting their nails black, acting depressed because they think its cool. Then they tell people they wanna kill themselves and all I have to say to that is okay, because its fcking annoying and cringe, like just do it then and stfu.

another bad take

 

[Newsheepers]

another bad take

I've seen it all too often

 

[WoFIowz]

I wish you stayed on reddit for good

Actually created this account 3-4years before the reddit one soooooo. Reddit sucks. Too many garbage mods who ban me for dumb stuff but keep the bad stuff online.

I have an extremely unpopular opinion-- I really think we should just let people kill themselves if they want to. I think it's wildly selfish to keep people here for your sake and to marginalize their suffering/and or prolong it. Let people choose when and how they want to die.

Can they not though? Anyone is free to choose. Would save a lot of tax money and help insurance premiums. Same for overdoses. While we're at it, legalize cannibalism to solve hunger and homelessness in one act.

 

[skierman]

If you don't want to kill yourself, don't use social media.

If you want to kill yourself, make sure you post it on social media so you can go viral.

 

[GayWolf420]

Had a lecture today about framework for suicide prevention. Here are some great tips that I also learned myself that could be beneficial to you all:

- ASK!!! Straight up ask people you care about or anyone really if they're struggling with anything. There is a common myth that asking people who have had suicide ideation or anyone who is actually not suicidal but has had those thoughts come into their heads will consider suicide more if someone asks them about that. It is not true. Just talking can make a huge difference.

- Listen: Listen to understand and use empathy. Do not try to put yourself into their shoes, do not say things like "I've been there" or "You have a lot to live for", trying to cheer them up, etc. Anything like that. It invalidates their experiences and makes them feel much more worse.

- Refer - Refer them to resources! While mental healthcare in the US has a lot to catch up too, Just suggesting going to talk to a professional could make a difference. Not every therapist is evil and it takes a lot to talk to someone, so just keep that in mind.

What you should do?

- Listen with empathy always. Don't try to make it about yourself.

- Avoid Judgements and being dismissive. This can go a long way. Especially with how stubborn us men are when it comes to feelings and shit.

- Validate their feelings.

- Always be open-minded.

- Always encourage referral to those who are specialists in this. AGAIN, therapists are not going to solve your issues for you, but it is a great way to unload any sort of baggage you have in a totally confidential safe environment.

 

[weastcoat]

I have an extremely unpopular opinion-- I really think we should just let people kill themselves if they want to. I think it's wildly selfish to keep people here for your sake and to marginalize their suffering/and or prolong it. Let people choose when and how they want to die.

I can’t say I agree or disagree but I completely feel this. At the end of the day you gotta take care of yourself, and putting yourself through agonizing pain every second of every day just for others doesn’t always sound like the best thing. My wheels always get turning when people say it’s selfish, especially when the person’s never had to deal with mental illness.

 

[utahnewb]

Hey,

First off I would like to say that I am sorry that you are finding yourself in these circumstances. Don't apologize, reaching out is a big first step that many are reluctant to take and very understandably. I assure you that you are not alone in this. I am in college in Utah and I am really struggling with depression too. I assure you that you are not the problem, it is an ineffective attitude of society toward these issues. I'm going to assume that you are a guy (my apologies if that's wrong), but there is a noticeable stigma towards us guys expressing how we feel rather than how we think. I've tried to be more open about my feelings and i am often just pushed away by others. If you don't, mind maybe provide us with a bit more context. I might be just a guy on the internet but my DMs are always open and I'd be more than happy to lend an ear to you or anyone else here. I would suggest also speaking with a professional because medication doesn't fix anything but it can help make it easier to manage feelings.

All best

 

[STEEZUS_CHRI5T]

It happens to all kinds of people who are completely "normal" on the outside. It's always a surprise.

4 old highschool classmates died of overdoses that were depression fueled.

1 co-worker got laid off and then died a year later in his sleep. AKA overdosed.

All in their 20's and equally shocking to hear about. Never saw it coming.