suicide

I think you only think its selfish or whatever untill you've had a personal experience with it. I feel for those who have, its a terrible thing. For those who haven't, you don't know how lucky you are.

-Caitie-

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its suprising and sad how many people have tried or seriously contimplated suicide. I had a friend who attempted suicide because of her psycho parents and it was really sad. The worst thing was that sum kids were making fun of her. I think from the outside, when you look at someone who is attempting suicide, its so completely different than from the inside. I've thought about suicide myself, and never really thought of it as a crazy radical idea that would hurt anyone that much until my friend attempted suicide. Then everything changed and i was like, whoa, this is a big deal that really hurts a lot of ppl. Its a really hard subject, because ppl go thru such huge emotions that no1 except themselves can feel.

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i found my best freiend after she'd od'd on laods of pills, that was one of the scariest times and luckily she survived. i know what its like aswell cos ive tried and when u r that depressed that all u want to do is end ur life, your feelings are so messed up that you dont know what to think. i dont think is that selfish or attention seeking, i think that when your hurting that much, all yiu want to be is happy and that may mean not being around. depression is not fun, but after i tried and being in a hospital with a drip in my arm and then going to a special hospital scared the shit out of me and when i think about what i did, i think it was the stupidest thing i couldve done. you've just gotta be patient cos better things will come along, yeah i still have shitty days but that's life, you've just gotta deal with it.

 
a few years ago my brothers friend tried to kill himself, he took 60+ antidepressants and went hiking, luckily nothing really happened till he got back home, then he passed out and started siezing, his dog kept barking at him so his mom eventually went down and saw it and got him to the hospital, i'll tell you that momen i heard about it was really scary, it is a really awkward feeling and i'm sure woulda been worse if he actually died,

another time when i was younger, like 12, my friends dad blew his head off with a shotgun, the kid told me every little detail, i almost didn't want to hear it all but it was letting him get it off his chest, this really was hard on his family and everyone in the community, its hard to explain how it feels to know these people, you just remember seeing them days before tottally normal

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the people who say its a selfish act really bug me because I've dealt with it personally, not me but more than one person very close to me. two are still here and one isn't, and I can tell you right now that although the survivors feel like the person was being selfish, they weren't. 99% of the time its a result of depression which can be compared to something like diabetes in the sense that it is a chemical imbalance in the body. Most of the time its hereditary and more often than not it ISN'T brought on by some 'tragic' event...not clinical depression. Its not something that goes away, even on medication its something that has to be dealt with all through life. someone who comes out of it on meds knows where their limits are and when they need to see a doctor again, etc, because their attempt scared them, too. its human nature to be afraid of dying, so you know somethings wrong when they try to do it. but its not selfish. they can't help it on their own. if you think they're just being selfish, think about all the things we all do all the time that are selfish. I still think it isn't though...everyone who hasn't been through it or has survived someone who has without knowing them on a personal level just thinks the person is creating more problems and making things worse. Gah, sorry this is so long, but suicide is a scary thing. i wouldn't wish it on anyone, my heart really does break for those who have dealt with it in any way, but i'm just bothered when people try to say that the person shouldn't be thinking of themselves so much when they do it. it isn't like that.

-Caitie-

'Have nothing to do with stupid and senseless controversies; you know that they breed quarrels' -2 Tim 2:23
 
At first I thought that it isnt a selfish act. BUt what about my friend shooting himself in the head with his two year old little girl in the house? He also has another baby coming. The mother is a drug addict, and he is the only hope for his children to have a future. By trying to killing himself, he giving up on the responsibilities as a parent.

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6 kids in our school have committed suicide in the last 3 years, we have the highest rate of suicide in the state i think, but its so crazy, really sad, i knew some of them...the 'normal' suicide rate in america is one every 10 years, i just dont understand it, that six is out of 10 deaths of young people from our school

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Yea I am not going to go super in depth because it would be way to long of a post. But less than a year ago my best friend committed suicide and to this day no one has been able to piece together exactly why he might have done it. The day that he did it I talked to him while I was at work and he sounded alright and told me to come over after work because his parents were gone all night. This was at 1 in the afternoon and before 4 his little brother who is a year younger than I am found him dangling from the rafters of their garage after opening the door up. This happened two weeks before his HS graduation and his life was going well and he had a summer of parties phish shows and college the next year to look forward to. I dont think a lot about what would make him do it cause that makes me think about what I could have done to prevent it. But the point to this whole ramble is that there is a lot of stuff going on in everyones mind that we never let out so no matter how well you know a person you cant know exaclty what would make them take such drastic measures.

As a sidenote the night before this happened was one of the happiest times we ever spent. It was last spring and our close circle of friends all had a little tripping party and took some L. The last time i saw him was late at night while he was walking off laughing to himself with a huge smile on his face. It blows my mind that 12 hours later he could decide to kill himself. Anyone here who thinks about suicide just for a second think about what it will do to you family and friends.

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newschooler14, i wasn't there and i didn't know your friend, but its amazing what people will hide. some people where their heart on their sleeve, like myself, and everyone knows how i'm feeling, but for other people you can never possibly know...

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I used to be like that a few years ago. i started taking a bunch of pills one night, but thankfully realized what i was doing and stopped after about 6 or 7. But a good friend of mine did commit suicide. if you've never had experience with something like that, its impossible to understand how completely shattering it is to hear it. i just couldn't stop thinking how he could have been feeling that much pain without asking for help, how he could have just kept it all inside when he had so many people who would have done anything to help. it's unbelievable to think about the amount of pain someone must be in to just not see the enourmous amount of love they could get if they asked. it's a really good point about how amazing it is that people can hide so much. Personally, i just got really good at turning my emotions off when i was around other people. inside i was a complete mess, but i somehow managed to just turn into a different person on the outside. after the little pill episode tho, i kind of broke down to a friend of mine, and things started turing around. i just really wish that my friend could have tried to open up to someone.

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Its been interesting reading everyone's posts on the subject. Im still not sure where I stand on the issue, and I still feel really confused. The only conclusion that ive come to is that most people suffer from alot of pain. Yet everyone remains silent, and puts on a happy face for this sugar coated world. This may sound really cheesy, but the lesson Im learning from this experience is that we really need to treat eachother with kindess and compassion. I wish I could have taken the pain away for my friend, but I cant change the past. All I can do now is show my appreciation towards my friends and family. This has completely altered my perception towards life, and it has made me strive for my own personal happiness and I am finally learning how to let go....

R.I.P Dex

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i think its selfish. your loss is much less in comparison to those you leave behind. the people thinking about suicide due to a loss themselves should consider the effect they would have on people. its really just a weakness, which is a negative self-indulgence... so yeah, its the weak way out. i dont really feel i have much to live for... besides skiing... which isnt fullfilling enough to justify an entire life... but theres no way id ever off myself so yeah, theres my couple cents.

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how can you say that people who have committed suicide have no friends? haven't you read any of the posts in this thread? everyone who has had someone close to them commit suicide have said that they would have done anything they could to ease the pain, that they wish the person who killed themself had known how many people loved them, including myself. it's absolutley disgusting to assume that people who commit suicide were completely alone, because in every case there is someone who would do anything in their power to help that person.

'hey look guys! For a dollar you can get a free condom!'

- a friend when she saw the condom dispenser in the bathroom
 
You can't rationalize it, and it's true that it is selfish but that's not going to hold much bearing to someone who is contemplating it. They are apathetic and they really don't care about much around them at the time. They are fed up with life, the pain, and the bullshit. Depression seems like a hole too deep to escape from.

I've lost a friend to suicide and it truly was a tragedy. The tragedy was not just in losing him, but in seeing the hurt and pain it left in his closest friends and families. That left a dramatic impact on me. While personally, life hasn't been a walk in the park, I try to look for the good. Even in my lowest points, I try to look for the humor and the irony in it... and there are so many people out there who stay positive and have so much less then us. For that I'm thankful, I'm thankful to have it so well. So even in my shallowest days I try to look beyond what I see in front of me, and remember how much pain suicide brings to everyone around me, with that, I know I can make it through the day.

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i have never had a friend or anyone i know commit suicide but i know a girl that is thinking about doing it and its kinda scary knowing that some one you know is thinking of killing themselfs

 
GhostDragon, you're right about all that. Right now, i'm at a point in my life where i can be truly thankful for everything i have. Now more than ever i know that even when shit happens in my life, at least i'm still alive to experience it. losing someone you love can put a whole new perspective on your own life. Now, i can't imagine ever wanting to end my life, because i fianlly realized that just being here was fulfilling enough to keep felling positive.

'hey look guys! For a dollar you can get a free condom!'

- a friend when she saw the condom dispenser in the bathroom
 
^^^ghostdragon that was possibly the most profound intelligent post in the history of ns and im serious i cant begin to say how great that was.

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