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Have any of you known someone who has committed suicide? Do you feel that it is selfish at all? What are your thoughts on the subject?

Dont forget your snorkle ~ Bridger Bowl
 
I know a few people who have attempted it. Of all the ones i can think of right off hand, only one had a reason and was actually depressed. The others were simply in need of attention and pretended to commit suicide to get people to notice them. In one case, a girl did it because my friend had broken up with her, AFTER she had threatened to break up with him, simply for going fishing with some family friends. Basically, I wish she had suceeded, for it was the second time I know of she tried and failed.

-Pat Melvin

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'people just think they're accomplishing something in their lives by fighting 'the man'.. - mh

 
Way back in the day I had a good friend named Nathan. He was a grade lower than me and he lived right down the street. We used to walk home from school together all the time and hang out at his house because he had a rope swing. We were about 10 when we met and were friends all the way until we were about 15 or so. One day he wasn't at school so I decided to cruise by his house on the way home and see what was up with him. His mother was at work and no one answered the door so I was going to go arround back and see if the sliding glass door was open. I went through the gate and saw him hanging by the rope swing. There was a ladder, kicked over, just a few feet underneath him. He had tied a knot arround his neck and kicked the ladder out from under his feet. He proabaly sufficated rather than breaking his neck because his neck was streched about 4 inches from all of his weight hanging from it. Needless to say that was kind of a bad day.

Eggs and bacon please, eggs over skeezy
 
that's horrible man... very rough.

-Pat Melvin

WBP|films

'people just think they're accomplishing something in their lives by fighting 'the man'.. - mh

 
I've attempted it several times. It was completely selfish, I was trying to get rid of a lot of pain. But I don't have time to talk about it just now, because it would be looong and my laptop's battery is almost gone. Later, maybe.

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''I've learned to give some canadians an intellectual buffer'' -SUpilot

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

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''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot
 
wow man... gthats rough^. im not sure if peoplewho attempt are all trying to get attention. how badly would you want attention to alm,ost kill yourself?

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One of my friends shot himself in the head last month and survived. Another guy I use to hang out with all of the time in Portland killed himself this week, but he suceeded. It just really makes you contimplate about life and it really changes your perspective.

Dont forget your snorkle ~ Bridger Bowl
 
my friend offed himself two christmas eves ago with an AK I still cant believe it he was such a cool kid I just assumed he was happy since he was smiling and kicking ass all the time but thats just goes to show you never know

God is an American.
 
I think that there is always, ALWAYS, a better solution than suicide. All you end up with is hurting your friends and family, when it is your own pain that you are trying to end. Basically in the case of suicide, one wrong makes many more wrongs. There is always someone to turn to- kid's help phone, your school guidance counsellor, and even your worst enemy would be willing to help if they knew you were hurting so much. It IS selfish because there are so many consequences that you aren't taking into consideration when choosing to end your own life.

'Chief Heavily Whipped? Yeah guy, THAT's a name to be proud of...'

'Amy, are your ears cold? Your ice is looking icier than usual...' -Turpin
 
I know someone who did. Actually, some of you guys probably know him too, his name was Jeremy April. He took his own life because he had nobody to talk to. On the exterior, he appeared to be the most friendly, smart, laughable person people had met. Everyone was friends with him. Not only was he such a great person, but his skiing ability was uncanny. Recently after being selected for the aerials C team on the US Ski Team, he took his own life. Years later I'm still not sure how to percieve it. However, I'll tell you this, never again do any of my friends ever get away with not talking to me about something thats bothering them...

 
people who talk about it and say that its not the only way out, and that it is just dumb. Its not, I've benn there. Just about 6 days ago i was rushed to the srisis center wher i live. When you are there there is nothing you can do. You just want the pain and agony to stop. Its the only thing left. I contemplated it every day for almost a year. DOn't say shit unless you know.

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I just throw my sisters dildos on the ground and pretend lik i am grinding them. She walked in once when i was in the middle of a 270 out, it was awkward.-NoTeefa

I agree. Especially Gay pride. There's gonna be a war over that one soon. Unfortunately, one of the armies will spend way too much time designing their military camo, and this will prove their downfall... -J.D._May

oh, thats dissapointing, i thought by the title that we were bashing france-skierdudeguy, in the 'stupid People' thread

 
Unless you've dealt with it personally, through either your own attempts or those of a loved one, you simply have no idea. none.

TMC WUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

WE KILL YOU

SKIER: How would you describe your style?

PJ Cliche: Total skate influence. Even doh dis is on concrete, an you are face sideways, an it has sweet fuck all to do with ski, skate 'as play a huge role wit my steeze.
 
i agree with those above, you dont understand it unless you've been there. its been two years since my friends mom died of cancer and he still is suicidal. its scary shit and people just dont exactly understand. i think it is very selfish because he is only thinking about himself and not those of us who care about him. However, most people just dont understand what its like

~Ella

GIRLS OF NS REPRESENT

*if you are going to fuck up, fuck up big*
 
my point exactly.^^ the stereotype of suicide killers is way off. I am a middle class white 16 year old kid play basketball football, baseball, and golf in my free time. I do all honors class, and take any ap/ib that i can. But i likve with an alcoholicc for a mother, a father who grows his own pot, but lives in denial, both compulsive lyars, recently divorced> and the shit gets deeper, much deeper. i have more freinds than most peopl i know. but things just get to deep. its hard to understand if you've never been there.

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I just throw my sisters dildos on the ground and pretend lik i am grinding them. She walked in once when i was in the middle of a 270 out, it was awkward.-NoTeefa

I agree. Especially Gay pride. There's gonna be a war over that one soon. Unfortunately, one of the armies will spend way too much time designing their military camo, and this will prove their downfall... -J.D._May

oh, thats dissapointing, i thought by the title that we were bashing france-skierdudeguy, in the 'stupid People' thread

 
everyone's reasons for thinking about it/attempting it are different, but the despair seems to be pretty much the same.

Random thought: We seem to consider suicide a selfish act, but isn't it selfish to say 'hey, you have to consider me before making that decision'? Take that for what it's worth.

TMC WUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

WE KILL YOU

SKIER: How would you describe your style?

PJ Cliche: Total skate influence. Even doh dis is on concrete, an you are face sideways, an it has sweet fuck all to do with ski, skate 'as play a huge role wit my steeze.
 
and its not for attention you ignorant bitch

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I just throw my sisters dildos on the ground and pretend lik i am grinding them. She walked in once when i was in the middle of a 270 out, it was awkward.-NoTeefa

I agree. Especially Gay pride. There's gonna be a war over that one soon. Unfortunately, one of the armies will spend way too much time designing their military camo, and this will prove their downfall... -J.D._May

oh, thats dissapointing, i thought by the title that we were bashing france-skierdudeguy, in the 'stupid People' thread

 
Last year I went through alot of terrible things, and there were a few days that I just sat around contimplating suicide. I wouldnt do it, but I can sort of relate.

Dont forget your snorkle ~ Bridger Bowl
 
sorry to hear that christine

my good friend josh killed himself my senior year of high school.....he was a super generous guy who would go out of his way to do cool stuff for other people just to make them happy, but he never really concentrated on making himself happy.....he had a terrible relation with his parents, and he was living with his grandparents at the time (i guess he got into an argument and they didn't want him to live there anymore and he said that he'd ''be gone soon anyway'' right before he shot himself.....i found it really ironic that someone who was always so selfless would end up committing the most selfish of acts, especially when he had tons of people that would have supported him. (none of us saw it coming AT ALL). it was also the only funeral i've ever been too, and there weren't even close to enough room to fit all the people that came, and every single person was fucking crying their face off the whole time.....

i agree that the act is extremely selfish, but by the time someone comes to the conclusion that they want to end their life, they are finished caring about other people, and the whole feeling of being selfish does not concern them - only making it all stop.....just my opinion i definitely don't want to offend anyone that's been down that road

all i know is that the few times i've been fucked in the head enough to consider killing myself, i try to think of how many people were packed into the fucking church crying and all the speeches everyone wrote and all the shit we left with him in his casket and how long his funeral procession line was, and that clears up my head enough to at least get a slight reality check

but's it's just an awful thing for everybody, and i'm sorry i went off, but you can't help but be angry and sad and left pondering why you're friend took himself from you instead of letting you help him

RIP Josh Kimenau 1979-1998

-Strode

Abba Zabba, you my only friend
 
and i agree with jib_this......we are selfish too to think that they should consider us before making that decision, but after the fact, how else can you feel? i remember a book i read in middle school about a kid who's friend died, and he's at the funeral thinking how selfish everyone is for crying, when they should be reminiscing on the good things in the person's life, rather than dwelling on how hurt they are.

-Strode

Abba Zabba, you my only friend
 
The thing is Strode, you really can't help in the long run. You can make depressed friends feel better in the short term, but in the end we just end up back where we are. The thing is, every time I haven't gone through with it has been a result of friends talking to me, and the fact that I don't really want to die, I just don't want to live with that kind of pain. It gets better and worse though. It's completely selfish, like I said; nobody kills themselves because they're a burden on others...but it isn't always to get attention. I couldn't give any less of a fuck whether anybody pays attention to me. In most cases I'd rather be left alone about it. I just can't handle my problems sometimes, seeing as my future is largely hopeless. Essentially, I'm too weak to live, and too weak to die. And to reiterate what others have said, you can't know until you've been up on the bridge.

It's kind of funny that this thread came up just now, because I've been trying to take a positive outlook on life all week, and though it started out well, I've failed miserably now. I suck.

J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

On San Francisco: ''that was like the starting place of gayness and aids in the eighties.'' -Tandan83

''I've learned to give some canadians an intellectual buffer'' -SUpilot

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

On Bling Skis: ''Anyone know anything about this company? do they have a website?'' -makr0

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot
 
I can't even begin to understand... it's never gone beyond thoughts (who hasn't thought about it) with me. I've never lost a friend to suicide. Hope I don't.

Gonna go chill with some of my buddies in a bit, couldn't imagine how sad I'd be if I lost em, couldn't even begin (cliche I know, but it's the downright truth)

Shit son, these threads have popped up every so often but I was just thinking about what great friends I have right before clicking this.

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yeah my buddy did...the thing ive noticed...and is not different from my friend...is that these people were all dope and everyone liked them and had more friends than anyone...with my friend he was super popular and the funniest kid and always had an ace up his sleeve...but i guess then he just folded his hand that time...super hard to deal with and you'll never understand why etc...but the thing is ist at there is FUCK ALL we can do about it after the fact...which is why it's so hard...fuck i could go on all day about how messed suicide is...but just don't do it...its selfish as hell and you only fix one problem but create many others

RIP GWC.

I went to take a piss and the elastic in my pants snapped back and crushed my balls against my leg and now i can't have kids
 
and guys..if its about a girl...don't do it..theres better ways to show you care...and you'll fuck her right up...

I went to take a piss and the elastic in my pants snapped back and crushed my balls against my leg and now i can't have kids
 
I guess the intent behind the suicide is what defines if it is selfish or not. I think my friend who shot himself in the head was selfish. His father committed suicide and he knows the pain. He shot himself with his baby girl in the house, and he has another one coming. I cant judge them though, I just wish I could take their pain away. I just called my friend to see how he was (has really serious depression), sometimes we need to just take time to show our friends that we care.

Dont forget your snorkle ~ Bridger Bowl
 
i think its selfish for a person to think its selfish for a person to kill themselves

if you get what im saying

 
i like how darksider17 put it. 'suicide is a permanant solution to a temporary problem.' no matter how bad things are they will always get better. always. but sometimes you have to make things better or nothing will change.

When life hands you lemons, ask for tequila and salt
 
I've found the best way of getting through life is to adopt a Stoic philosophy. If you can accept it and internalize it, it will do wonders.

 
I know a couple of people who have committed suicide, including a good friend of mine. The principal of one of the high schools here in Anchorage just committed suicide the other day.

-Sarah

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''Skiing's unique from other sports. I think the biggest thing that I like most about it is that you're doin' it for yourself... You're not out on a team, you know. You can add your own style to any aspect of it, and you can ski things how you want... You can move at your own pace... And, you just, you have a lot of time sort of to yourself to be skiin', and that's... That's a lot of fun.''

-CR Johnson
 
There was a kid at my school when i was in high school who broke into his friends house. The family was gone for a week and when they came home they found him in the closet slumped funny on his knees. It turned out he used a necktie to sorta hang/suffocate himself. It was really fucked up. He was one of those allstar kids, but i guess he must have had some demon burried deep in his head.

mmmmmm snow goood
 
thats crazy. some sad stories. personally i've never felt anywhere close to sad enough to even think about that, life is jsut too fun and happy for me. i guess a lot of people deal with some real stress and whatnot. smoke herb, lighten up a bit

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so let the losers lose and let the players play/ the only difference is the dates of some dust on the clay, what
 
actually, i'm sorry. that sounded like i feel that doing drugs makes me happy and that is not the case at all. I am happy without drugs too

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so let the losers lose and let the players play/ the only difference is the dates of some dust on the clay, what
 
Suicide is an extreamly rough experience for famlies to go through. September of 1998 my dad commited suicide, it was totally an unexpected action which none of us even saw coming. No one can even begin to understand how such an action can change your entire life. When my mom had first told me that my dad had commited suicide, I didnt even absorb what I was being told. After a few hours it finally hit me that I will never see my dad ever again. After coming to terms that I will never be with my dad again, then I wondered why he commited suicide, there was no note, and he didnt seem too teribly depressed leeding up to what he did. I wondered if it was something that I did, or that I could have prevented, and then I realized that there is nothing that I can do about it now, and that I just need to build off of that. So to those who have ever thought of commiting suicide, think real fucking hard about whether or not you are prepared to ruin your family members lives. It does not matter how bad things in your life can get, they can ALWAYS be much worse. There is no reason to leave your family members behind wondering as to why you didnt desire to live anymore, there is no reason to leave the one chance you have at life for whatever your current problem is. On top of loosing my dad, I also lost 3 of my 4 grandparents my uncle, and two of my pets within the course of a year and a half. I'm not saying that my case is any worse than anyone elses, but when it rains it fucking poors. So even after going through all of that, I look at it as though these tragic experiences have made me a stronger individual. If you are depressed, get help. If you feel that you should commit suicide, get help. There are drugs out there (ie. Paxil,and other anti-depressents) that can help you get through hard times. Talk to your family members, friends, and even counslers. Dont bottle your depression inside, but rather talk to people and let it out. Remember, you only have ONE shot at life so make the best of it.

I have a theory that all retards have one long tendon that goes from wrist to wrist, so therefore that is why they always are screwin around with one wrist up, and the other one down.

 
my girlfriend used to be very depressed and slit her wrists a couple years ago. fortunately she survived, and now she has such a positive outlook on life. you just never know what life has in store for you, and its foolish to try to cheat yourself out of that.

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-steve

'life begins at point a and ends at point b. kick major ass!'

-Ted Nugent
 
^i wish my ex would have turned out like that.....she had tried to slit her wrists a few times (before i knew her) and when we broke up it was really bad because she'd call me and tell me she was sitting there with a razor blade ready to cut herself, and i knew she was capable of it, and every time she told me she was going to do it, it freaked me the fuck out and i would have to go over to her house or call one of her friends (usually around 3 am or so) because i was at work.....this went on for a few weeks, but she eventually settled down (barely), but now she lives far away and i don't know what i'd do if she threatened to do it all the way out there

-Strode

Abba Zabba, you my only friend
 
i understand suicide. my mother has been bipolar for 30 years, i can't believe that she is still alive. she spent much of my childhood in her bedroom sleeping in the dark. you don't know pain until you've seen depression, i know this because it can be hereditary and i've dealth with it myself. i understand suicide because i understand the excruciating pain that can cause it. when you have nothing to live for, when life itself hurts you deeply, suicide becomes attractive - death becomes anesthesia. you become so deep rooted in your unhappiness, that it goes beyond a feeling and emotion, it becomes a malign being that consumes you...

my point isn't that i support suicide, i'm just trying to point out that recovering from depression can seem like trying to fly, inconcievable. its just easier said than done, thats all.

the white n word

Alpinecowboy84 is a fucking fag

Jackson sucks, tell your friends.
 
i dont think theyre selfish at all, i contemplate it every single, im just fed up with shit and want it to end, theres nothing selfish in that, if anything the people who actually do shoot themselves are some ballsy people, that must take a shit load of guts to actually sit there and pulll the trigger on yourself,

'Did you know that average penis size is 6.4inches and that the average vaginal canal is 7.9inches? Therefore.... in this country alone, there is over 17,000 miles of unused virgin pussy' - Poolhall Junkies
 
yes. my relative. it's really hard on the family, and it's not getting him anywere. if you ever think about it... it's NOT revenge to your family. You are just taking a life that could have been made better if you would have kept with it. It doesnt make your life better by ending it. There is always help. But if you kill yourself before you can get that help, you can never experience feeling good again.

~*Michelle

->'the CD goes right here. the speakers... oh well one of 'em's broken, but THIS speaker is good, and these wires, they are really good!'
 
i dont understand how one can attempt suicide. if a person really wanted to die that bad they would go somewhere to do it where noone could get them medical attention fast enough to live.

 
shooting yourself in the head doesnt give you much time for medical attention unless a miracle happens

'Did you know that average penis size is 6.4inches and that the average vaginal canal is 7.9inches? Therefore.... in this country alone, there is over 17,000 miles of unused virgin pussy' - Poolhall Junkies
 
I don't understand why anyone would want to end their life abruptly. Life is sooo wonderful, I couldn't imagine the thought of wanting to stop it. Whenever I'm mad or something, I just think, 'does this really even matter in the big scheme of things?' and all of the times it doesn't. Suicide is not fun for anyone

Blunt_Apparel
 
i don't think they are selfish...but i don't know i think there's always a better solution than suicide for every problem

maxcox9 - Then we all went to his house, and when everyone had passed out and me and the older dude were still boozing away, he came to sit on my lap and troking my hair and shit.I was like what the fuck are you doing, we're not playing that anymore, and he tried to fucking kiss me! That was scary as fuck.

221 - just close your eyes and pretend its Britney Spears with a strap-on.
 
yea i dont get how someone can attempt suicide. i mean its pretty obvious what will kill you and what will not kill you. personally i would feel pretty lame knowing i attempted it but failed.

right.

...Now I just can't shut you up, shut you up

So now I have to chop you up, chop you up

And I'll just wait till I get caught...

Icecreamsandwich officially = the coolest girl ever. Thank you. - Stryken

 
my uncle was an alcoholic and took his own life. fortunatly I was too young to really remember because I wouldn't want to be thinking about something like that. I am undecided if it is selfish or not. If someone is set on killing themselves then there isn't much we can do, but its people who are suicidal or 'attempt' it who need help, need to be comforted by friends, and be let known that beople care about them before depression overwhelms them and they are set on killing themselves. I have kind of a 'neat freek' mentality in whatever I do. Everything has to be organized and in place. I think this mentality came from years of building stress. when I encounter problems I sort them and file them away in my brain and try to eliminate them 1 by 1 in an orderly fashion. I don't know if this is healthy, but it is a defence mechanism I built up over time. I like most other people have thought about suicide, but I don't think I would ever attempt it. I know that for me being in a relationship has been very fufilling and has rellieved much of my stress Before I was in the relationship I had myself convinced I didnt want to be attached, when it was something I really neaded.

maybe it was another defence mechanism my mind used to keep me out of trouble. The real problems start when the problems start to overwhelm the minds defences and the person feels alone, stressed, and cant cope. that is when you need to get help. Wether you think suicide is selfish or not nobody likes to see somebody take their own life. If you can't cope then get help..

You Don't Realize What You Have Untill It's Taken Away.
 
a girl i know walked in on her uncle attempting suicide, he shot himself from his chin and the bullet got lodged in the roof of his mouth.

 
thats not true , u can think about it b4 ur dead , like to me al lthe time suicide would b great , like you dont have to worry baout nethign nemore and it woudl b awsome but like htink about all the ppl ur letting down and shit and how badly its gunna affect them and shit like that. it is selfish bcuz sure its tkaing ur pain away but you know before u kill urself its gunna tkae ur pain and multiply it by a huge amoinutn and put it on other pll. its not worth it. its like saving urself off a ship which will sink if you leave but u hate the ship so u leave and let everyone else rott when everything could be fine but ud be a little depressed . bbasicly if no1 would b hurt because of suicide soooo many ppl would go ahead and do it , if no 1 cared im sure a shit load of ppl woudl do it. but thats why just live life happily dont make it so that its more worth to be dead then alive , then ur just not living, need ot be happy more and actually want to live

D.I.
 
I know someone who has OD'ed once, but not that much. Then a second time she was piss drunk and took about 18 pills when you're supposed to take 2. Plus she was taking them with alcohol. She survived both times, very fortunate girl. And I don't think it's selfish, I don't know how to explain my reasoning.

 
A girl I used to work with committed suicide towards the end of last year. She hung herself in the toilets of her school. She had called her mum to tell her she wasn't feeling well, but by the time her mum got there she was already dead. This girl was beautiful, very smart, had a great family and boyfriend. I just wished that she had someone to talk to, or that someone could have just listened while she explained her problems. I hope she's safe now.

Don't try to fix me- I'm not broken
 
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