I bought the hurricanes on ebay, won bib at 200, sold binding to a buddy of $80, wanted a different park ski, flat, different for me but really looking forward to trying them this weekend. My all mountain ski was great in the park, if i have to fall back on them i will. I put a set of griffins on them so for just under $350 including ebay shipping, tax on griffins for a brand new set up, I'm smiling. if i don't like them i could sell them all day long at the hill $150 and keep the bindings.