Stop Hating on Quads.

[MartianMan]

In the past week, two snowboarders have landed quadruple flips. The response on Newschoolers has been almost unanimously negative, with people comparing snowboarding to aerials, and hoping that this never happens on skis.

It may be just me, but I think this hostility is utterly over-exaggerated. Freeskiing is a sport that will never be defined. Face it however you like, but throwing quads is progression. Freeskiing doesn't progress forward, it progresses outward, into many different directions and pathways.

Being upset over a new trick being thrown is a waste of time. The first person to throw a quad on skis will have been working up to it their whole life, and will feel an incredible sense of accomplishment when they finally land. That is the essence of the sport.

I for one, have never been all that successful at all in the park, and will likely reach my death bed never haven even so much as landed a double. Just because I like to focus on a different niche in the broad spectrum that freeskiing takes up, doesn't mean I can't respect people progressing the sport in other directions, and in fact, I love when it happens.

So focus on the aspects of this great sport that bring you enjoyment. If you don't like watching fast rotations of enormous jumps, then don't, just continue to progress and support the progression of others. People throwing quads are not dooming the sport, but instead widening its reach.

 

[GayWolf420]

stop hating on people hating on quads

 

[FuckAllOfYou]

I like how you said it's progressing outward and not forward. Much better way of putting it. I agree as well; at the end of the day it comes down to progression and quads won't regress the fucking sport.

and no, it won't scare people away.

 

[ny300z]

opinions are like assholes, every one has one.

sums all this shit up pretty good.

 

[Laurent.]

I can't see your positive spin on this matter, I hoped there was a twist at the end but alas, there was none.

 

[mr-mcsteeze]

i thought i was the only one who thought like this so im really happy im not alone.

Quad corks are ridiculous cause of how big the jump needs to be to send one and everyone knows how Candide fucked himself up on the 140 footer. The way i see it is, once you drop into a gigantic feature like the ones these guys are hitting, you know what the consequences are if you fuck up and by dropping in, you have accepted these consequences. Nobody is forcing you to do triples or even quads so why complain about it? I cant even single invert and i dont complain about people doing better than me. Just be stoked for the person cause they are putting everything on the line for these tricks.

Progression is all about doing something new and quads are the new thing in that area. If you dont wanna go that direction, find a different one. Everybody who rides has their own unique direction they will go in and everyone should be stoked for everyone else as long as that person isnt a complete tool

 

[boppin]

Whats going going to happen is every two years someone will add another flip.

By the year 2020 we will be watching Sextuple flips. No reason it can't happen.

This progression will happen until someone breaks their neck, and become paraplegic.

That person will be half of the skiing communities hero. The other half will hate him.

The public will think that skiers are insane and that the sport is to dangerous.

Anything more than a quad flip will be banned from big air events.

Anything more than a triple will be banned from sloperstyle.

 

[rballs_]

Whats going going to happen is every two years someone will add another flip.

By the year 2020 we will be watching Sextuple flips. No reason it can't happen.

This progression will happen until someone breaks their neck, and become paraplegic.

That person will be half of the skiing communities hero. The other half will hate him.

The public will think that skiers are insane and that the sport is to dangerous.

Anything more than a quad flip will be banned from big air events.

Anything more than a triple will be banned from sloperstyle.

Please shut your face.

The argument that the public will find it too scary is the dumbest shit i've heard. That's like saying "The first 1080 was landed on a skateboard. Better not skateboard ever again because it's too scary."

 

[John18_6]

By the year 2020 we will be watching Sextuple flips. No reason it can't happen.

adding a flip every two years is way too quick. it's not happening in 2020 and a sextuple flip will ever happen. it's not just adding another flip, thats two triples in one jump. just because a physics major optimized the situation with some simple equations doesn't mean it will happen. no jump will ever be made to have the hangtime for that much rotation. the hangtime would have to be at least 5 seconds and i don't think it's possible to make a safe enough jump with that much hangtime unless you got towed in by a goddam rocket sled and it had a 80 foot step-up.

I doubt a quin will ever happen. Actually I take that back, if we can design a humanoid robot advanced enough to throw tricks on skis and have air awareness anything can happen.

 

[Miomo]

Whats going going to happen is every two years someone will add another flip.

By the year 2020 we will be watching Sextuple flips. No reason it can't happen.

This progression will happen until someone breaks their neck, and become paraplegic.

That person will be half of the skiing communities hero. The other half will hate him.

The public will think that skiers are insane and that the sport is to dangerous.

Anything more than a quad flip will be banned from big air events.

Anything more than a triple will be banned from sloperstyle.

I don't get it. People get injured just skiing, without really doing anything much. People get injured doing dubs all the time, yet none of this has happened. Sarah Burke died, yet none of this has happened.

 

[Mr.noodle]

I agree with op

I feel like hating on quads is a band wagon

 

[e~b]

Freeskiing doesn't progress forward, it progresses outward, into many different directions and pathways.

this actually a great way of putting it. never have thought of it this way and it is a great way to look at it

 

[Miomo]

You are seriously going to compare average day skiing to Xgames skiing? This is why its basically impossible to have a real discussion on NS haha.

You must have missed the third and fourth sentences.

 

[theabortionator]

Fuck you OP! I could do a quad but I think that that would destroy skiing forever so I'm choosing to abstain. I've been skiing for 20 years, and could easily throw a quad flat 1620 and quad cork 1800. I think it's shameful irresponsible for these snowboarders to go out there and trash the sport like this. Now that these assholes are doing quad corks, nobody is going to want to ski or snowboard anymore.

I'm starting a new foundation. "Theabortionator Center For Kids Who Can't Ski Good, And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too." In order to save our sport I feel it's not only necessary to abstain from triples and quads, but to berate anyone who dares to throw one.

For anyone who says pics or it didn't happen I can have my animator prepare a picture, flipbook, or video showing how I would stop said quads if I wanted to. Now that I have theoretically done these quads, I see no reason for anyone else to try them since they have theoretically already been done.

It just isn't wise to go out and ruin a sport we all love by being selfish and trying to do cool tricks.

 

[Black.Bird]

Do your thing, we do our thing.

If people are hating on them, than so be it.

If people like them, than so be it.

Don't get worked up on what other people think. Just do your thing.

 

[Black.Bird]

and if people use than instead of then, then so be it.

 

[theabortionator]

I think you are missing the point dude, it doesn't matter if a skier/snowboarder did the trick, it doesn't matter if the trick was a quad or a triple, its about the pros leading the way to what they want the sport to become. I usually agree with you on almost everything, but triples just really are ruining the competition scene for me.

I personally would rather watch steezy double or, singles, and really mis on axis spins. One of my favorite parts of the big comps is when somebody fucks up at the top of the course and just has fun. When I worked the US Open, it was great to be there when everyone was hitting the jumps for the first time. Saw some super sloe steezy spins.

That's what I'm about, That said, I think all this hate on triples and quads is ridiculous.

Also the whole "I could do triples but I don't want to because I care about the children" think was just dumb IMO.

The sport is healthy and in the future will just branch out more and more. The more facets of the sport, the harder it will be to stay at the top of all of them, but we were already seeing that. You have your urban rail filmers, slope skiers, pipe skiers, the stylish guys that don't compete but are out their killing it etc. Just like skateboarding, you got your guys filming the streets, comp skaters, vert specialists, bowl guys, big air, tech flatland stuff, etc.

The sport doesn't need to ban big spins, it needs to branch out. Some events where style was judged higher than anything else, wouldn't even have to limit the spins just get the judges on the same page. People can throw steezy double corks as well as steezy flat 5s. Something like that even on a small scale. I feel like the ones that ban anything over a 7 are going about it the wrong way.

I'm just annoyed by all these posts, including pros, going "triples and quads are going to end the world"

 

[cdip]

10$ says henrik does quad nose butter ???

 

[Parches]

You are saying that injuries are going to happen no matter what, yes? I think comparing the level of riding & the amount of injuries when Sarah burke passed away, RIP, and saying it was the same then as it is now is stupid. The amount of injuries this season for skiing was insane. The injuries on doing cork 7s is no where NEAR the injuries that people are going to get from doing triples and quads.

Most injuries aren't from people doing triples and quads, most of the time its people hitting a tree or a lift tower. There might be some pros that get recoverable injuries by trying triples or quads, but most serious injuries or deaths don't really take place in the park.

 

[OzzyJ]

opinions are like assholes, every one has one.

sums all this shit up pretty good.

Kim Jong Un must not have an opinion

 

[Pac2]

Who cares lol.

 

[yeahno]

I think they look stupid. Sue me. And then fuck off.

 

[AlfredHitchCAULK]

It doesn't matter cuz everyone knows the only real trick is a lip on blind 2

 

[SFB]

I can't see your positive spin on this matter, I hoped there was a twist at the end but alas, there was none.

: ^ ) i thought it was funny.

 

[J_skis]

 

[Chvf]

Fuck you OP! I could do a quad but I think that that would destroy skiing forever so I'm choosing to abstain. I've been skiing for 20 years, and could easily throw a quad flat 1620 and quad cork 1800. I think it's shameful irresponsible for these snowboarders to go out there and trash the sport like this. Now that these assholes are doing quad corks, nobody is going to want to ski or snowboard anymore.

I'm starting a new foundation. "Theabortionator Center For Kids Who Can't Ski Good, And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too." In order to save our sport I feel it's not only necessary to abstain from triples and quads, but to berate anyone who dares to throw one.

For anyone who says pics or it didn't happen I can have my animator prepare a picture, flipbook, or video showing how I would stop said quads if I wanted to. Now that I have theoretically done these quads, I see no reason for anyone else to try them since they have theoretically already been done.

It just isn't wise to go out and ruin a sport we all love by being selfish and trying to do cool tricks.

Zoo lander reference on point.

 

[j.var]

I think quads are progressing our sport in a different way. Riders like Vinny Cash, Jossi Wells, and Phil are pushing towards a more stylish aspect of our sport rather than spin to win which i believe most people are more drawn to watching, but i still think its pretty unbelievable someone can quad cork...

 

[Jpurd]

stop hating on people hating on quads

touche. and quads blow shit. They suck.

 

[IHaveNoPowerHere]

After seeing the snowboarder quads over these past 2 weeks, I 100% want to see a skier quad a jump of similar size. Progression is fucking awesome. It doesn't make me personally want to do it, but damn it if I don't want to see my sport go there and beyond.

 

[GayWolf420]

touche. and quads blow shit. They suck.

its not that they blow, its just fucking annoying seeing yet another thread worrying about what others are doing. NS makes skiers look like such fucking prudes, its unbelievable.

 

[Jpurd]

its not that they blow, its just fucking annoying seeing yet another thread worrying about what others are doing. NS makes skiers look like such fucking prudes, its unbelievable.

I mean I get where you're coming from, but doesn't this thread add fuel to the fire?

 

[mr-mcsteeze]

I personally would rather watch steezy double or, singles, and really mis on axis spins. One of my favorite parts of the big comps is when somebody fucks up at the top of the course and just has fun. When I worked the US Open, it was great to be there when everyone was hitting the jumps for the first time. Saw some super sloe steezy spins.

That's what I'm about, That said, I think all this hate on triples and quads is ridiculous.

Also the whole "I could do triples but I don't want to because I care about the children" think was just dumb IMO.

The sport is healthy and in the future will just branch out more and more. The more facets of the sport, the harder it will be to stay at the top of all of them, but we were already seeing that. You have your urban rail filmers, slope skiers, pipe skiers, the stylish guys that don't compete but are out their killing it etc. Just like skateboarding, you got your guys filming the streets, comp skaters, vert specialists, bowl guys, big air, tech flatland stuff, etc.

The sport doesn't need to ban big spins, it needs to branch out. Some events where style was judged higher than anything else, wouldn't even have to limit the spins just get the judges on the same page. People can throw steezy double corks as well as steezy flat 5s. Something like that even on a small scale. I feel like the ones that ban anything over a 7 are going about it the wrong way.

I'm just annoyed by all these posts, including pros, going "triples and quads are going to end the world"

Isn't that what the B&E Invitational is for? They really base a lot of the scores on style while we have the X Games for spin to win. If the community just had 1 or 2 more major contests that promoted style instead of spin to win then everyone would be happy

 

[lIllI]

The more I ignore what happens in the ski world, the more enjoyable skiing becomes. Funny how that works.

 

[APunx176]

I agree with op

I feel like hating on quads is a band wagon

I feel like not hating on quads is becoming a bandwagon. A majority of the comments supporting quads have a lot of upvotes while a majority of the comments hating on quads have a lot of downvotes.

 

[theabortionator]

I feel like not hating on quads is becoming a bandwagon. A majority of the comments supporting quads have a lot of upvotes while a majority of the comments hating on quads have a lot of downvotes.

It flipped or other people came out of the woodwork. Seems like a lot of people were on the hate wagon then the wise article fueled it and everyone was jumping aboard. Now maybe that some of the people realized there are better things to hate on, everyone is abandoning ship?

I was pretty sure I was heading for downvote city but got upvotes so Ill take it.

 

[Laurent.]

: ^ ) i thought it was funny.

T...t....thank you ;__;

 

[Bagels]

I predict a Quin Flip is coming. Very soon.

 

[onLINE]

OP you give to many fucks about others opinions.

 

[MartianMan]

OP you give to many fucks about others opinions.

I'm sorry you feel that way. All I think is that Quads won't end freeskiing as we know it, so freaking out about a new trick being thrown is a slight overreaction, especially since it hasn't even been thrown yet. Freeskiing is too diversified to be ruined by a single trick. The sport will always provide a different pathway for every rider, and the choice is theirs.

 

[onLINE]

I agree with you. Don't worry we will get threw this hard time.

 

[Willard]

Do your thing, we do our thing.

If people are hating on them, than so be it.

If people like them, than so be it.

Don't get worked up on what other people think. Just do your thing.

Exactly i grew up watching style riders and looking up to them. So guess what i still simply watch the style riders. Know what you like and go with that no point wasting your time watching shit you don't wanna see.

 

[Plankton]

triple just went down in pipe

 

[mmallender.]

It just isn't wise to go out and ruin a sport we all love by being selfish and trying to do cool tricks.

 

[Zimmy]

Have any Aerialists crossed over into Big Air as yet - I can't see the reverse happening?

 

[AlfredHitchCAULK]

I think quads are progressing our sport in a different way. Riders like Vinny Cash, Jossi Wells, and Phil are pushing towards a more stylish aspect of our sport rather than spin to win which i believe most people are more drawn to watching, but i still think its pretty unbelievable someone can quad cork...

Isn't that what the B&E Invitational is for? They really base a lot of the scores on style while we have the X Games for spin to win. If the community just had 1 or 2 more major contests that promoted style instead of spin to win then everyone would be happy

it is basically snowboard aerials. you really can't argue that point.

Couldn't agree more with j.var but lets keep in mind that vinnie won big air with a double when everyone else was tripling and danny davis who won snowboard superpipe only did one double and had a really styley run

 

[Montana_Hoodrat]

"Theabortionator Center For Kids Who Can't Ski Good, And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too."

Windells

 

[steezburgereddie]

Quadruples are so 41 years ago.

 

[.tomskis]

stop hating on people hating on quads

Haters gunna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate

 

[Zimmy]

Now that park skiing is an Olympic sport, the Chinese (and other nations) will start grooming future stars and have them spinning to win. I have no doubt that quads and more spins will eventually become the norm in all freesking modalities, unless the size of hits are capped to make it too hard (like how Formula 1 engines are limited.) The training facilities and coaching are getting more advanced, people can visualize them easier now.

The average skiier just wants to have fun and avoid too much pain or fear. To many, seeing quad corks would look as foreign and unattainable as going down an Alaskan spine, although it may still inspire.

The real question is can you have a good snowboarder (or skiier for that matter) that has never left the park become the world's best? Will they have anally-retentive attitudes from being straighjacketed by themselves and others from a young age to "be the best." Will Chinese and Russians dominate pipe in 5-10 years?

I think the term freeskiing doesn't make sense when it is so far removed from backcountry wilderness, although the physical movements represent great freedom and mastery.

 

[Montana_Hoodrat]

I think the term freeskiing doesn't make sense when it is so far removed from backcountry wilderness, although the physical movements represent great freedom and mastery.

Go back to TGR with thoughts like this. Haha but actually this is spot on. Sig'd.

 

[Gnarbangalakazoo]

...... idk..... Who Cares?