Winter break driving to your cabin with erik, I dont remember why you were driving. I was parked way at the back of lot 4 on the cat track that connects lot 4 and the snowcat shed, we were turning around, and when we were perpendicular to the cat track and parallel to the fall line of the hill, you put it in drive and the car was slipping backwards because the back wheels couldnt get traction, it was more like "oh shit if that keeps happening we could have gone off the edge" in a very unspoken look between you me and erik.