SPK boot

i imagine they arent very good outside th park...like dont go looking for outstanding preformance out of the park...but i am sure they cant be THAT bad///
 
i've demo'd them inside the park but NOT outside...they are a great boot.. only 2 buckles and a lacing system and lots of padding...i talked to a salomon rep. about them and he said they are mostly for park but you could still take them in the BC, steeps, etc.
 
I hear they are designed for park and pipe, but honestly...I'm sure you could ski them anywhere if you really wanted to. It's like any park specific ski, there are better options for all-mountain, but there are by no means any rules that say they have to stay in the park.
 
yeah but if they are that padded they will suck in terms of a performance boot... in other words, you wouldn't want to take it BC or ripping hard lines between so much energy goes into the boot's padding, not your turns. The result? A lot less control
 
the spk is the most comfortable boot ever. ha out of all the times ive used them.. shin bang only once, its really comfortable and soft.. has alot of flex.. and handles fine outside the park
 
imagine a ski boot as lite as a snowboard boot. if a company could pull that off i weould for sure get the boot
 
does the two buckle system work well, like there isnt too much movement of the foot in the boot and all, I wish I could try these things on but I dont think any shops around me will get them,
 
it works very well...there aren't just two buckles, there are laces that you tighten that act as buckles and there's a giant strap to get it even more tight
 
can somebody explain to me what the huge difference between a park boot and a normal boot is. like...oh no dont buy a park specific boot right cause you will never be able to ride outside the park with it.
 
one of the big things with the spk is that the cuff is vertical and has no forward lean. this can make the boot really wiered for people at first. (turpin for example does not like them) Peter O said they take some time to get used to though but after that they are the best boot (for park) ever. However I would not get them unless you can afford a second boot are sponcered by salomon or ski 90%park and are not planing to ski any real big mountain terain. they would still be good for bc jumps. but if you do ski only park I would say get them.
 
Best deal anyone is gonna be able to find for them, until feburary rolls around, and then prices start dropping. But i dont no how people pass up the 10% off, and shop elsewere.
 
Keep thinking that. I bet you didnt know that you could have gotten Ar6s from them for $422 if you bought them a couple weeks ago. And thats with the NS discount. So talk to me when you find them that cheap again. O wait your not going to until feb.
 
ok...so in comparrison to the old 1080 model boots as far as flex goes...how much softer at the spk's?? this whole vertical cuff concept sounds funky...i dont understand the whole idea behind it yet...i ride a decent a mount of park, but when i hit up the mountains i do some good powder, some chutes, few drops here n there, some booters (50ft being my biggest so far)...you think the spk would still be able to hold up on that type of shit...not extreme bc...just lots of cruising, good amount of park, and some decent powder riding...i have not this past seasons 1080's, but the ones before...can't decide if i want the spk's for the comfort everyones talking about, or to just keep my 1080's
 
how can it be bad outside the park...a boot is a boot, but i imagine it is more flexible but anyway, it cant be bad outside the park...[?]
 
i need to decide between these and the 1080's or foils i should say. i think i am going to go with the spk's cause i live in NH= no pow
 
if they have the exact same flex rating how come everybody is claiming they're softer?? maybe because of the straight up cuff?? feels softer cuz you move more forward compared to regular 1080/foils?? hmm...im thinkin im gonna get these bitches...along with every other freeskier out there lol...what are peoples thoughts on bindings this year??
 
Don't forget about the most important factor...FIT!

They fit completely differantly; The SPK is roomier and wider in the forefoot.

The Foil is based on the wave last...Smaller volume and slightly narrower.
 
fuck thank god they have a wider toebox in the spk...i always get blisters on the outside on my toes from my 1080's...such bullshit
 
try getting them punched... or getting fitted for new boots... my x wave 8's where to skinny in the toe box and got them punched and now they're better
 
trust me, i bought brand new 1080's at the start of last season...fitted properly...got custom footbeds, punched out the ankles and toebox...its just my small toe bends all fucked up when i pop for rails or off a lip...something you can't quite copy in a shop while fitting lol...w/e, one small thing to overcome a hundred big
 
the foil and the SPK have the exact same flex rating, as mentioned above. Comparing the two, i would think that the SPK doesn't have as much all-mountain capabilities as the foil because of how much padding there is. Boots can have the same flex, but can feel totally different depending on how much padding there is and where it's located. Also, the vertical thanggg mentioned above... i'm ASSUMING that would diminish from all-mountain performance because when you turn, you transmit energy from your boot to your ski by a forwards-oriented pressure. if that makes any sense... so if your leg is straight up, and not leaning forwards, it would be more of a challenge to initiate a turn. anywho, foils are still pretty light in comparison to other boots. if you ski all mountain, i would suggest the foils rather than the SPK if you're looking into a salomon boot. i haven't ridden the SPK's so i might not know exactly what i'm talking about. someone correct me if i'm wrong.
 
Alright so i had a little convo with micheal clarke whos riding on spk's now. He sais the first 2 or 3 days in the boot you feel like shit, because they are so different from any other boot. But he sais after that they are amazing. comfertable with big toe boxes and i took apart the boot and felt around... the shock absorbers feel legittt.... like they would actually do somthing and they are fucking dope boots.... word
 
k but think about this for a second...the vertical cuff compared to slanted in the foils...yes, you have less padding and a slant in the cuff of the foils, so they do respectively give you more power for turning, right? maybe not...i have really bad shins, so trying to put pressure into the tongue of my foils last year was brutal...maybe with this vertical cuff and tons of padding, you will essentially be able to push into it harder, and achieve the same amoutn of slant in the cuff giving you just as muhc power to the ski...think about it, you can do those boots up just as tight via the massive ass power strap if you wanna ride some bc...just a thought i had
 
very true. pushing into padding could help slant forwards, but that would diminish from power transmission. that's the idea behind racing boots... stiffer flex = more power to ski. as long as the shell is in a vertical position, i don't think it could make much difference as far as being able to push into padding. good idea, though.
 
who knows...i always wore a gel like footbed type of thing between my shin and tongue on my regular 1080's so i dont think a padding issue is going to make a difference to me...but this whole vertical cuff thing sounds effed up haha...im interested to see what they actually feel like on the feet
 
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