Spinning unnatural is kind of dumb

rcasey

rcasey

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cons

-it looks bad

-its pretty hard

-it feels weird

-you fall a lot

-it looks bad

-nobody really cares unless you wear a mouthguard and in that case your coach will probably high five you

-its like when you try to impress people by writing with your non dominant hand and your writing is really shitty but still somewhat legible and you feel good about yourself for writing it but then you realize it looks shitty

pros

-x games announcers will top you off

-if you do an ugly trick and your self-esteem gets lowered you can tell people it was unnatural but they won't really care because it still looked shitty

-your abusive coach will give you less lashes after "training" because with your unnatural maneuvers you have secured yourself a spot on the podium and are en route to being the best skier on the circuit

-thats about it

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Well I don't know for jumps but I find unnatural tricks on rails pretty fun, there's some tricks that are actually funner unnatural, and it's a different feeling.

Also, there's only so many tricks in skiing, so learning tricks both ways is a good way to double your bag of tricks, and learning tricks the unnatural way makes you step out of your comfort zone, which is a good thing. And watching someone spin like a top always on the same side can get pretty repetitive

It's like if you said that riding a skateboard or a snowboard switch is stupid, or that it looks bad. There's some skaters/snowboarders that have really good switch style. With skiing it's a bit different since it's only a way of spinning, but still, someone like Wallisch for example, I enjoy watching him do unnatural tricks, it's impressive to see.
 
Unnatural is fun... Same reason I like to snowboard a few days a winter. I suck at it. But there isn't really natural or unnatural much with top comp guys right now.

Watch Nick G, Henrik, and others doing insane tricks (joss in Olympics) which were unnatural how they spun at 13 yo. It doesn't look bad, it's more scary but it's hard to tell which way is natural with them.

There are 14 yolds right now (Fagan twins) that you can't tell their natural spin and theyre stomping all 4 double 10's with crazy style.
 
If you come across a natural feature or maybe a feature that can only be hit to one side(hip, handrail with drop on the side.. etc) then it may be in your best interest to know how to do a trick both ways so you don't end up missing out.
 
13733873:WIllW said:
If you come across a natural feature or maybe a feature that can only be hit to one side(hip, handrail with drop on the side.. etc) then it may be in your best interest to know how to do a trick both ways so you don't end up missing out.
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Exactly :)

Had this exact problem here. I didn't miss out on the spot but I definitely missed out on sliding the rail comfortably left foot forward..

- Freed

 
13733887:eheath said:
Sounds like you need to get better at spinning unnatural.
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^ YUP!

I still am not super comfortable with my right side spins but the whole goal is to get tricks down both ways so there is no natural or unnatural. just left or right.
 
13733814:FredyFerl said:
Well I don't know for jumps but I find unnatural tricks on rails pretty fun, there's some tricks that are actually funner unnatural, and it's a different feeling.

Also, there's only so many tricks in skiing, so learning tricks both ways is a good way to double your bag of tricks, and learning tricks the unnatural way makes you step out of your comfort zone, which is a good thing. And watching someone spin like a top always on the same side can get pretty repetitive

It's like if you said that riding a skateboard or a snowboard switch is stupid, or that it looks bad. There's some skaters/snowboarders that have really good switch style. With skiing it's a bit different since it's only a way of spinning, but still, someone like Wallisch for example, I enjoy watching him do unnatural tricks, it's impressive to see.
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Couldn't agree more, well articulated sir!
 
In my opinion doing unnatural tricks are just part of being a strong fundamental park/backcountry/urban skier. Sure it helps pros get podiums and stuff, but wheres the love for doing all 8 swap to 2's out or all 4 720's. I think seeing someone who is that well rounded is super sick and shows talent.
 
Always believed you should aspire to be able to do everything all ways. It shows how much skill and control you have if you can make all the different ways of doing a trick look comfortable. Take skateboarding for example. There are a lot of skaters who you can't even tell anymore if they are regular, switch, fakie or nollie. Not learning to do unnatural tricks really just limits your trick bag.
 
13733971:Saga. said:
Always believed you should aspire to be able to do everything all ways. It shows how much skill and control you have if you can make all the different ways of doing a trick look comfortable. Take skateboarding for example. There are a lot of skaters who you can't even tell anymore if they are regular, switch, fakie or nollie. Not learning to do unnatural tricks really just limits your trick bag.
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pretty easy to tell an ollie from a nollie
 
a few years ago i would have agreed with you. But ever since my USSA coach delivered severe and frequent lashings, i've since changed my mind.

I need unnatural
 
13733997:SteveStepp said:
a few years ago i would have agreed with you. But ever since my USSA coach delivered severe and frequent lashings, i've since changed my mind.

I need unnatural
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Steve ever since your I read your book I've been flipping my shots in premiere to make it look like I can do both way 5's, your tips are incredible
 
I only spin counter clockwise when I spin on skis but I only spin clockwise when I spin on a snowboard.

Also I only spin 1's and 3's on both
 
OP, I cant even tell if this is a troll, but I AM TRIGGERED. putting in hours of work with dozens of slams to learn hard unnatty tricks is rewarding and an element of skiing that you don't appreciate for whatever reason. Maybe you tried, thought it was too hard (like you said) and gave up on it. Nice justification for your inability to stick with something just because you couldn't do it first try. A newschoolers thread shitting on it in hopes of having people agree with you is obviously the best way to prove how stupid unnatty is. Fuck I shouldn't be mad about this but its too late.
 
Very useful in rail skiing to be bi-symmetrically comfortable. Looks nicer in a line to spin both ways and helps win games of slvsh 0.
 
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13734131:-Dan said:
OP

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TRU
 
i thought style was supposed to be better than technicality and natural tricks are a lot more styley than the dumb other way
 
13734161:goofyboyxD said:
i thought style was supposed to be better than technicality and natural tricks are a lot more styley than the dumb other way
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I can't tell if you're trolling or you're just the worst at spinning unnatural among your peers.
 
13733979:goofyboyxD said:
pretty easy to tell an ollie from a nollie
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I was more referring to comparing ollie to switch ollie and nollie to fakie ollie. Some skaters make it near impossible to tell the difference.

During the street league finals P Rod was praised for being one of the first to start doing switch tricks in such a way that they looked regular.
 
topic:goofyboyxD said:
cons

-it looks bad

-its pretty hard

-it feels weird

-you fall a lot

-it looks bad

-nobody really cares unless you wear a mouthguard and in that case your coach will probably high five you

-its like when you try to impress people by writing with your non dominant hand and your writing is really shitty but still somewhat legible and you feel good about yourself for writing it but then you realize it looks shitty

pros

-x games announcers will top you off

-if you do an ugly trick and your self-esteem gets lowered you can tell people it was unnatural but they won't really care because it still looked shitty

-your abusive coach will give you less lashes after "training" because with your unnatural maneuvers you have secured yourself a spot on the podium and are en route to being the best skier on the circuit

-thats about it

thank you for reading

please like and subscribe
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I 100% agree. The only way it's cool or useful imo is in weird transitions lIke berms up onto cat roads, or natural side hits, as in a takeoff that's angled or a landing to a particular side where it's so much more natural to spin a particular direction. To me that's being a complete skier able to utilize the terrain as well as possible. Maybe also for a sense of challenge and novelty other than adding a flip or a 180.

But otherwise yeah, it's pretty damn useless and I agree it's like a oooh look what I can do thing in a way. Then again, pretty much all ski trickery is a form of vanity or something. Of course it's also fun and has inherent value, but there's a layer of self consciousness in something like that. Or rather self awareness of how it's being perceived by others
 
13733873:WIllW said:
If you come across a natural feature or maybe a feature that can only be hit to one side(hip, handrail with drop on the side.. etc) then it may be in your best interest to know how to do a trick both ways so you don't end up missing out.
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Should have read the thread before I posted, this is what I was saying.

Though for will, he actually does do unnatural tricks and is speaking from that experience. I'm coming from the often "missing out" angle here.....
 
I learned how to spin unnaty this season and its honestly such a dope feeling when you're doing it in a line. It definitely makes you feel like you can do so much more on skis and plus it can feel really dumb doing a left spin on every jump in a jump line
 
Imagine doing it on rollerblades ...

Technical grinds and spins switch and regular done from faking are the best
 
I’ve gotten comfortable hitting rails unnatural, but never spinning off a jump. I used to be able to right 5 little side boosters, but I don’t think I’ve ever even tried to right 1 a legit jump.

Wonder if OP has learned the unnatty in the past three years
 
Unnatty tricks are sick but I hate how douchey they are executed. “HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT ME IM DOING THIS TRICK UNNATURAL”.
 
To be fair I don’t really care enough to learn unnatural jump tricks...but rail tricks for sure need to be learnt both ways. The possibilities are endless when you can slide, spin, swap both ways on rails
 
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