Someone get unc off ns

Didn't watch the whole video but this guy is pretty articulate and not unreasonable. The phrase "all-mtn" means different things to different people. I think he's totally right that the majority of skiers looking for all mtn skis don't really give a shit about the park. Totally different audience to the people on this forum
 
14628270:Lonely said:
Curated?

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Later he says that curated was garbage.

I don't know, guy seems alright. He's just one of the thousands of dudes you catch on the lift who are overly obsessed with carving. I don't think that he understood why a freestyle oriented site would promote freestyle oriented skis and purposely skip over directional skis. Maybe if he would have figured that out he wouldn't have felt the need to make a video.
 
14628282:Poikenz said:
Later he says that curated was garbage.

I don't know, guy seems alright. He's just one of the thousands of dudes you catch on the lift who are overly obsessed with carving. I don't think that he understood why a freestyle oriented site would promote freestyle oriented skis and purposely skip over directional skis. Maybe if he would have figured that out he wouldn't have felt the need to make a video.
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I'll watch the whole thing at one point but.. I do not like him, and many other YouTubers because of the whole "Making a comment and doing no research" thing.

He might know a little more if, you know, he as a "ski person" took like 2 minutes to read and look at anything about the NS or the people reviewing it. Like, isn't that (as a reviewer youtuber) his job?

It reminds me of when kids on here call Surface a "new" brand. But at least they are dumb 16-year-olds. This guy it seems like he is supposed to be knowledgeable about these things. But then, like, isn't.

-In the 3 minutes, I watched at least. My opinion is subject to change but I think I've seen this guy a few times before. And I'm also sure our reviewers said stupid things here and there but yeah.
 
This guy realizing Newschoolers does not sell skis:

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Dude has no idea how poorly skis under 100mm perform for freeride on an average day off the groomer and it shows
 
Ive seen crackheads way less fidgety then this homie, is he ok? Its crazy he didn't notice that these are all twin tip skis.. hes all mtn is a 20mm wider race skis lol
 
I went to high school with this dude, we were on the ski team together for 3 years (racing). His dad was one of our coaches, and his younger brother was a year younger than myself. Everyone in his family are VERY good skiers. They were a big race family, so give him a break with the park references lol

I guess all I mean to say is that he's a LEGIT skier, comes from a deep rooted ski family, and now has kids that he's taught to ski. When I think of the (NAME REDACTED) family, I think of core skiing.

can vouch.
 
14628348:tuckerhoran said:
I went to high school with this dude, we were on the ski team together for 3 years (racing). His dad was one of our coaches, and his younger brother was a year younger than myself. Everyone in his family are VERY good skiers. They were a big race family, so give him a break with the park references lol

I guess all I mean to say is that he's a LEGIT skier, comes from a deep rooted ski family, and now has kids that he's taught to ski. When I think of the (NAME REDACTED) family, I think of core skiing.

can vouch.
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homie was dumb founded that they took all mountain skis to all of the mountain and hit the park in a newschoolers review. clearly obvious to NS and their market and should pipe the fuck down lol. he recommended an 88 width for all mountain which none of us on here would ever use. this is the equivalent of an F1 driver analyzing drift cars setups and saying how the gearing won’t be fast.
 
Newschoolers is testing an All mountain ski on the three main conditions the majority of ski mountains have? Unc is right they’ve def lost it
 
I cannot take people seriously who see carving performance as the #1 fundamental merit in a ski. Carving is just a small, one-dimensional sliver of all the fun a mountain offers.
 
He looks like the middle aged IT professional types who account for 80% of my shop’s sales and will buy whatever the sales guys say they ride
 
14628354:partyandBS said:
homie was dumb founded that they took all mountain skis to all of the mountain and hit the park in a newschoolers review. clearly obvious to NS and their market and should pipe the fuck down lol. he recommended an 88 width for all mountain which none of us on here would ever use. this is the equivalent of an F1 driver analyzing drift cars setups and saying how the gearing won’t be fast.
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I have to give the 88 width ski a little love because there was a season 3 years ago in Utah where it didn't snow for 2 months and I skied one day with a dude on an 88 nordicas and he straightlined Great Scott at Snowbird from the top

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14628434:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
I have to give the 88 width ski a little love because there was a season 3 years ago in Utah where it didn't snow for 10 months and I skied one day with a dude on an 88 nordicas and he straightlined Great Scott at Snowbird from the top
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[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1097426/1000006180-mp4[/video]

Clip^
 
14628354:partyandBS said:
this is the equivalent of an F1 driver analyzing drift cars setups and saying how the gearing won’t be fast.
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Lmfao This is like a nissan Altima driver analyzing drift car setups ….
 
14628499:CT_CREW said:
Ski reviews in general, are retarded.
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well this is dumb as fuck lol.

so jerr bear is on the market for a new ski. skis like 5-10 days a year and doesnt know enough to just read the specs and know what to get. so with your logic he should ignore all reviews and do what? get his favorite graphic??

or for ns users maybe youve moved out west with soft snow for the first time and you have a new job and can now afford an all mountain ski for the first time. better just get 189 wets instead of watch a review video??

i hear ya that their not perfect. sometimes there appears to be sponsors and dollars paying for their skis to be featured and that sucks. i didnt get that vibe too much from the ns review but maybe. i do prefer roofbox reviews over demo day reviews myself. im never gonna rock demo bindings on my skis and theres only so much you can do in that time frame when you have so many other skis to test. but i still think its very applicable for many users in the market to buy something and should definitely continue
 
14628326:dwt802 said:
Dude has no idea how poorly skis under 100mm perform for freeride on an average day off the groomer and it shows
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Nah, skis under 100 mm don't perform poorly for freeride off groomers. It's the people on those skis who perform poorly because they don't know how to ski em.

For example, under 100 mm:

 
Dude clearly knows what Newschoolers is and who they cater to, but just chose to ignore it for the sake of making a video that will generate views.
 
As soon as I'm in any kind of snow that has some give to it, wider works better for me. There's a reason most of the people on the FWT are using 110-120+ skis, it limits how often you front punch and go over the handlebars

14628516:corona said:
Nah, skis under 100 mm don't perform poorly for freeride off groomers. It's the people on those skis who perform poorly because they don't know how to ski em.

For example, under 100 mm:

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14628516:corona said:
Nah, skis under 100 mm don't perform poorly for freeride off groomers. It's the people on those skis who perform poorly because they don't know how to ski em.

For example, under 100 mm:

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sick video for sure. but that was almost 20 years ago in thick ass ak snow late in the spring in late april. much different than what most of will be doing. and i bet if todays texh was available then, seth probably would have been on a bigger ski but honestly not by much for those conditions. at 2:32 he’s launching into an avy run off?! that snow must have been sooo firm. what a nut lol
 
14628516:corona said:
Nah, skis under 100 mm don't perform poorly for freeride off groomers. It's the people on those skis who perform poorly because they don't know how to ski em.

For example, under 100 mm:

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Ok but by that same reasoning, skis over 100 aren't bad at carving, people just don't know how to get them to bite
 
14628499:CT_CREW said:
Ski reviews in general, are retarded.
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asking any non-sponsored skier's honest opinion on their skis > any ski review.

Lowkey agree with you in the sense that if you've been on this forum for years you should probably have it figured out by now.
 
14628608:FruitBootPro said:
Ok but by that same reasoning, skis over 100 aren't bad at carving, people just don't know how to get them to bite
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I mean, lots of people I've seen on 100+ skis clearly don;t know how to carve well regardless of the ski they're on.

But that's not the same reasoning. That's like saying because a 4x4 truck can easily be made into a comfy city ride, then that means a comfy city ride can be easily made into an offroad vehicle. Which is obviously not the case. It's not always a 2 way street. If a 120 mm ski was heads and tails better than a 100 mm ski for freeride, the progression towards wider skis would have been far quicker. But a 100 mm ski (or 95 in Seth's case) can absolutely be a fantastic big mountain ski. Back in the day people were on even narrower, but it just took more effort and skill and so pow skiing wasn't as accessible.

I guess my main point is that I disagree with 100 mm being picked as some magical cutoff between what's good for off-piste vs on. You can get some amazing off-piste skis that are under 100 mm (see the 95 mm Seth Pistols, which Seth Morrison and many others skied in every condition for many years and were fantastic in pow and big mountain if you could make them work).
 
14628685:corona said:
I guess my main point is that I disagree with 100 mm being picked as some magical cutoff between what's good for off-piste vs on. You can get some amazing off-piste skis that are under 100 mm (see the 95 mm Seth Pistols, which Seth Morrison and many others skied in every condition for many years and were fantastic in pow and big mountain if you could make them work).
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Yeah this is true ig

The conclusion about ski width people need to realize is that, at the end of the day, it's all personal preference

The right 90mm ski can crush soft snow, and there are people happy to daily drive Wildcat 118s or even Hellbents

width ranges are just a rule of thumb
 
14628504:partyandBS said:
well this is dumb as fuck lol.

so jerr bear is on the market for a new ski. skis like 5-10 days a year and doesnt know enough to just read the specs and know what to get. so with your logic he should ignore all reviews and do what? get his favorite graphic??

or for ns users maybe youve moved out west with soft snow for the first time and you have a new job and can now afford an all mountain ski for the first time. better just get 189 wets instead of watch a review video??

i hear ya that their not perfect. sometimes there appears to be sponsors and dollars paying for their skis to be featured and that sucks. i didnt get that vibe too much from the ns review but maybe. i do prefer roofbox reviews over demo day reviews myself. im never gonna rock demo bindings on my skis and theres only so much you can do in that time frame when you have so many other skis to test. but i still think its very applicable for many users in the market to buy something and should definitely continue
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imho blister and ns roofbox are the only reviews worth paying attention to

the rest just give a bunch of vague unhelpful descriptions i.e. "it's got a 115 waist and deep rocker lines so it'll really float in pow" or whatever generic crap that's already clear from the ski's specs
 
14628504:partyandBS said:
well this is dumb as fuck lol.

so jerr bear is on the market for a new ski. skis like 5-10 days a year and doesnt know enough to just read the specs and know what to get. so with your logic he should ignore all reviews and do what? get his favorite graphic??

or for ns users maybe youve moved out west with soft snow for the first time and you have a new job and can now afford an all mountain ski for the first time. better just get 189 wets instead of watch a review video??

i hear ya that their not perfect. sometimes there appears to be sponsors and dollars paying for their skis to be featured and that sucks. i didnt get that vibe too much from the ns review but maybe. i do prefer roofbox reviews over demo day reviews myself. im never gonna rock demo bindings on my skis and theres only so much you can do in that time frame when you have so many other skis to test. but i still think its very applicable for many users in the market to buy something and should definitely continue
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I stand by it... ski reviews are in fact, retarded.

it's not hard to read a ski manufactures description of a ski model. They do in fact, put more than specs, such as a description of exactly what the manufacturer designed the ski for, including skier skill level, and terrain type....

so ya Jer can easily pick a ski designed for their skill level and terrain choices, and Brand Identity/graphics can play a big in the decision of which beginner/intermediate ski they choose

When buying gear for new sport, it is not hard to do a little research on the internets about said sport, and in doing so learn way more than reading a review by some random JaBron who skied on the shits for 1 or two runs, tops.

If you have seen them take place, you know these reviews are whack.... made in a weekend, skied with shitty bindings, one or two runs, more than likely one type of snow.

Roof Box is aight though... I like the peer review format, after extended use.
 
14628651:Christian_Bale said:
asking any non-sponsored skier's honest opinion on their skis > any ski review.

Lowkey agree with you in the sense that if you've been on this forum for years you should probably have it figured out by now.
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You get way more outta asking someone who has ridden wets for years than the roof box even, they know the durability, the feel over time, how the flex changes and so much more
 
ricketyskireviews lokey goated. He's definitely got some out of touch takes but his content is very entertaining (not in the manner he is intending)
 
14628793:iDontHitRails said:
ricketyskireviews lokey goated. He's definitely got some out of touch takes but his content is very entertaining (not in the manner he is intending)
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That’s why I watch
 
14628381:FruitBootPro said:
I cannot take people seriously who see carving performance as the #1 fundamental merit in a ski. Carving is just a small, one-dimensional sliver of all the fun a mountain offers.
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I cannot take people who underscore the importance of carving seriously. Idgaf what tricks you can do, if you can't carve, you're not skiing. Calling carving a "small, one-dimensional sliver" is insane bro ?
 
14628504:partyandBS said:
well this is dumb as fuck lol.

so jerr bear is on the market for a new ski. skis like 5-10 days a year and doesnt know enough to just read the specs and know what to get. so with your logic he should ignore all reviews and do what? get his favorite graphic??

or for ns users maybe youve moved out west with soft snow for the first time and you have a new job and can now afford an all mountain ski for the first time. better just get 189 wets instead of watch a review video??

i hear ya that their not perfect. sometimes there appears to be sponsors and dollars paying for their skis to be featured and that sucks. i didnt get that vibe too much from the ns review but maybe. i do prefer roofbox reviews over demo day reviews myself. im never gonna rock demo bindings on my skis and theres only so much you can do in that time frame when you have so many other skis to test. but i still think its very applicable for many users in the market to buy something and should definitely continue
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I always just get my favourite graphic.
 
14629015:SteezyYeeter said:
I cannot take people who underscore the importance of carving seriously. Idgaf what tricks you can do, if you can't carve, you're not skiing. Calling carving a "small, one-dimensional sliver" is insane bro ?
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im pretty sure if you can lip blind 2 you can carve lol. its just that no one cares about carving except the person doing it. could you imagine an edit to waka flocka and its just a bunch of carves lol. if your trying to get rad and pull some bitches you’re way better off hitting cliffs, ripping trees, spinning rails, flipping jumps, etc. thats what the people want!!
 
14629063:partyandBS said:
im pretty sure if you can lip blind 2 you can carve lol. its just that no one cares about carving except the person doing it. could you imagine an edit to waka flocka and its just a bunch of carves lol. if your trying to get rad and pull some bitches you’re way better off hitting cliffs, ripping trees, spinning rails, flipping jumps, etc. thats what the people want!!
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yeah I mean the odds are that of course. but I'm jus tryna say - hating on carvy carve is wackington
 
Oldschooler racer dude eloquently points out that even after 25 years NS is still fresh.

His video reminds me of that LINE slogan "Skiing the wrong way since '95".

Newschoolers "Carving like shit since '99" ? ?
 
14629063:partyandBS said:
im pretty sure if you can lip blind 2 you can carve lol. its just that no one cares about carving except the person doing it. could you imagine an edit to waka flocka and its just a bunch of carves lol. if your trying to get rad and pull some bitches you’re way better off hitting cliffs, ripping trees, spinning rails, flipping jumps, etc. thats what the people want!!
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These 2 videos are within 10 seconds of each other, put video one on mute and let's see what we think


Sorry one of those was the uncensored version, edited the real one


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14629208:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
These 2 videos are within 10 seconds of each other, put video one on mute and let's see what we think


Sorry one of those was the uncensored version, edited the real one


**This post was edited on Sep 26th 2024 at 6:30:40pm
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holy shit that was funny. i just used spotify while watching it. when the shots line up, it was fuckin historical. still absolutely not hyped though lol

reminds me of this gem:
=youtu.be

**This post was edited on Sep 26th 2024 at 7:05:38pm
 
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