Someone explain to me how a skier sells out

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i'm still not exactly sure how a skier sells out; everyone tells me that Jonny Moseley sold out but i still don't know how. someone explain this to me

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i think beacuse he won the olympics and basically was never seen in the skiing world again

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i hear people all the time saying that he is a sellout because he made money and got a bunch of publicity, yet those people have no intentions themselves to dedicate their life to skiing. 90% of this site is not going to (or even try to) become a professional and dedicate their life to skiing, yet they turn around and point the finger at mosely because he made some cash living his dream. people apparently consider that selling out, yet themselves are bigger sellouts for not even being a professional.

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i would think that for a skier to truly "sell out" they would have to ride shitty equipment, which would compromise their performance, in an effort to make more $$

 
quit complaining about people selling out. if you had the chance to make a shitload of money and get alot of publicity, you would too.

 
just my 2 cents:

i think j.moseley has if not the best, then right up there, control in the air. he makes this ish look easy.

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i think that u ski for the love of it and if u get sponsored then that's ok. But if u do what Mosley has done, gone "yeah i'm a skier, see me on my new show" or some shit like that then i guess u could call them a sell out.

Another example could be looking at bands. A sell out for music, would be Blink 182 or Good Charlotte. I fuckin hate Good Charlotte, they think their punk but their just faggots!!! And Blink was good then they sold out for the big buck and now they suck.

I guess if u could relate that back to skiing.

 
id respect him if he was still in the skiing scene, i mean he can go get the mad cash but that doesnt mean he just has to dissappear from the ski scene, i remember i watched a video of him at a comp tryin to do a 360 or suttin on this site like 3 years ago and he was havin trouble so his first hit he just did a grab

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i dont think selling out should necessarily be a negative term.

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jonny mosely is just a faggot thats all. Anyone would take MTVs offer cause they proabably pay him a ridiculous amount

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When they lose touch with the roots of the sport. As mosely is not on NS, nor seems to be trying to make a serious effort to connect with the roots of skiing, i would say he has sold out.

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dude selling out is just an excuse people use becausesome people actually use their brains to make a living. Blink sold out. You know how? Well see they had to scrape money together for years so they coiuld rock oaut, then someone noticed them, and they found they didn't ahve to eat ramen, then boom they went big and someone said I'll give you a shit load of cash to keep doing this. Wow, you would have to be stupid to say no.

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Look at it this way. Gwen stefani is the definition of sellout. I say that cuz... Well she starts out with I guess a punk, or alternative band. They start making money, which is fine. And they make a couple more cd's, now they're rich. If they just keep doing what they're doing at this point, they'll be rich. But seeing that more money is in the hip-hop world, gwen stefani goes off and does a solo, hip-hop thing, just to make even more money. And at the same time, she's turning her back on the band that made her famous. And now she has even more millions of dollars, and has poplluted the world with probably the worst, most god-awful song ever created(holla back girl) which is played every god damn minute of every god damn day on MTV.

I ski at the crappiest hill ever...

 
A skiing sellout is someone who all their amateur life claims that they are skiing for the love of it and that they could do this forever without getting paid then go off and sign contracts and forget about all those kids they skiied with back at home.

I personally would do it.

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word. i hadnt watched music vids on mtv for a while, i usually just watch like jackass and that sort of thing. bbut i watched for like 45 minuted and that fucking video was on like 5 times. i was like fuck this.

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He didn't. He successfully parlayed his status as 1998 Olympic gold medalist into other ventures. Fame is fleeting - capitalize on it while you can. Besides, I don't think any other skier could have come back in 2002 with enough clout and influence to force off-axis spins in mogul comps. His impact on the sport is immeasurable.

Besides how much credence are you going to give a bunch of naysayers who flip burgers or clean toilets for a living?

 
you guys ALL watch MTV and you're saying moseley is the problem???? MTV is the fucking problem. and it's not even them at the root of fault either, it's just corporate america.

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that is the worst song ever created, all of black eyed pea songs are right up there. They all suck.

Moseley just left skiing. He wouldn't be a sellout if he kept on skiing and came to at least watch comps and maybe enter a few, but i haven't heard of moseley doing anything skiing. I hate MTV too.

i cant take him[liam downey] seriously cuz his name reminds me of that downy bear from back when i was a kid -d loc

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so what everyone is saying is that he is a sellout because he left skiing? well i guess i could agree with that except that he is way in his 40s, someone whos that old can't compete with a bunch of 20 year olds. most professional athletes (especailly runners) retire at the age of 33.

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u guys r retarded if u were asked to host a show u would n i would n every one noes that it dosent mean ur a sell out n hes gettin old anyways

 
yeh if u sell out it means that you are only in it to make a quick buck and thats all....like t-hall once said..."im doing it for the kids...who gives a shit about just making money?"

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It's pretty easy to say "I'm not in it for the money" when you make like $300 000 a year.

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Ya just think about it if you got the offer moseley got you would have taken that is a shit load of money.

 
mosleys in his 40's damn. io didn't realize he was that old. Someone said riding crappy equipment for more money would be selling out. Like say if someone rode for a small ski company like 4frnt then went to a huge company say, salomon for a few more bucks.

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I reckon making money is fine, selling out is more like when you do something that would cause you to lose respect in yourself, like promote equipment you know sucks and kids will buy it and then it'd break and theyd lose all of their money.

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what are u retarded?? Your saying Jonny Moseley is in his 40's??? I dont know how old he is but i doubt he's even 30 yet. 40's... god damn ur stupid.

I ski at the crappiest hill ever...

 
you sell out when you start skiing for money and fame not for fun

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I hate when people talk about selling out. In my mind there is nothing wrong with trying to make money. These discussions kill me because people are so dumb.

 
selling out is when you comprimise your style or individuality to become more marketable because of money, and still claim to be in tune with the roots and evolution of the sport.

to a normal person, johnny mosely is freestyle sking, a 360 mute grab in the moguls, is freestyle skiing.

selling out=johnny mosely

not=glen plake

im pretty sure plake makes a decent amount of money, but he hasn't changed since blizzard of ahhs, except gotten older

selling out happens and it sucks...i agree with whoever made the blink analogy...they are NOT a punk band, they are pop, yet they win some shitty mtv movie award and the guy with the pierced eyebrow says something like "IM SO HARDCORE PUNK BLAHBLAH..fuck the man"

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are you all forgetting is a master of the regular 1080 mute grab, the hardest trick of any x-treme sport?

 
the only problem i have with mosley is that he isn't on the skiing scene anymore...... as far as mtv goes seriously who doesn't want to make a ton of money to host a T.V. show

Plake has stuck with the scene of skiing which i think is awsome

'kevin whyed nils pull you out?' 'Cuz i was touchin bitches.' 'No seriously why did he put scott in for you.' 'Scott doesn't touch bitches.'

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man, the dude was on letterman doing jumps on a ramp in the streets with splash pants. that's pretty awesome.

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He landed on wood.

That's crazy.

he hit the thing and stopped dead, then bounced when the whole thing rebounded and fell off the platform.

it was great.

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fuck that

so what you're trying to say is, NS is the roots of the sport of skiing? Glen Plake isnt on fuckin NS, so is he a sellout? Im glad he isnt on NS because he doesnt have to witness what the future of skiing is....a bunchy of trash talking little kids that are jealous that he got a couple million for being a good skiier. Mosely was never hardcore newschool like tanner......so what is he selling out from? Besides....im sure he still skis, but maybe he just doesnt want to compete anymore. Shit, its not like he needs the money.

I hate to break it to you, but newschool isnt the "roots" of skiing.

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