So Meadows is sucking... Do something about it

NoTeefa

NoTeefa

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Declare WAR!!!!!

We did this with Stevens pass last year and voila, so far this year their park is SIGNIFIGANTLY better.

Soooo instead of (or in addition to) coming on NS and bitching about it. Bitch to somebody who can do something about it. The easiest way we found to do this at Stevens was to fill out their little comment cards providing consructive and destructive criticism. The comment cards got read by some of the highest level management at Stevens and apparently something got done because this year its a lot better. Meadows also has these comment cards, I imagine you can find them all around the lodge, if you cant find em ask guest services where they are.

So, everyday you are up there, take 10 minutes and fill one out. Be specific! and try not to sound like an idiot. If you think the landings are short and flat and the ramps are wavy and lame, say so, and explain that longer steeper landings are in fact safer (mountains lovvvee safety)

If you want to see a slope course with 2-3 rail tiers and 3 jumps in the lofty 50-60 foot range over on shooting star (this is what I want) then say that.

We're customers! they can't ignore us
 
EVERY DAY YOU'RE AT MEADOWS FILL ONE OUT

IF YOU DON'T VOICE YOUR DISCONTENT THEY WILL ASSUME THAT NOTHING IS WRONG
 
I think i am going to draft an e-mail up. Once i finish if i copied it into these forums, would you guys all send it to MHM?? Like just get 30 people to send an email the exact same night about how bad the park is
 
tell me what you think, make all the suggestions you can. I am really angry after today so i might sound kinda down on them at some point...

To whom this may concern:

The terrain parks at Mt. Hood Meadows are shockingly bad, inconsistent, and small. This has been on my mind so much the past few weeks that I can no longer stand it. This e-mail will address what I see as the 4 major problems with the park: Inconsistencies in the take-offs and landings, issues with speed, issues with pop, and downright poorly set-up features.

Both the jumps onto rails and the jumps on tabletops, step-ups, etc. are terribly inconsistent in 90% of the features in your terrain parks. Some rails have no jumps on, just some snow piled up in front of it to make a ride-on. In my experiences today, I found that some of the tabletop jumps too, have dangerous and crooked lips on the HRM jumps. Safety seems to be very important at Meadows, and at this moment the parks are very unsafe.

Secondly, your park crew seems to not understand basic physics. At this moment, the rail island has 2 c-boxes and a picnic table. Both the picnic table and the c-boxes are impossible to hit coming up to the island because the height, shape, and size of the jumps on. Therefore the only way to hit them is from the top. But physics once again is lost to the park crew and both c-boxes are impossible to hit because one cannot get enough speed (not to mention if you hit the picnic table you just crash into the jump coming up to it because you can’t get enough speed to land back on the transition). But most shocking is the entirety of the HRM park. Today, I could only hit the first tabletop and the last step-up. I feel quite rushed in between features and Park Place is much too flat to correctly clear the majority of the jumps. Putting jumps of that size on HRM is just not a good idea, I feel that a smooth line of rails through Park Place would be a much better plan.

The jumps themselves have one other problem besides their inconsistency and that is they simply do not pop you high enough. Both the jumps on HRM and Rose City park seem to be more built along the lines of boardercross rather than park. Jumps are ideally made with a lip that gives the rider/skier hangtime as well as length, not just length as the aforementioned jumps only give. Without a poppy lip on the tabletop jumps the rider is forced to try much too hard to initiate their spin and looses their focus on the trick and is worried too much about whether or not they will even complete their rotation.

Finally, some setups are just downright bad. First: The wallride. That box on top is meant to be flat. If it is flat the actual wall part would not be almost vertical, which I and others find throws us off balance and makes the wallride downright impossible to do technical tricks on. The “wall” part should be at less of an angle so as the box on top is completely flat. Some rails as well just have terrible set-ups. Some are just buried into the ground with no lip on and no height. A prime example is the S-rail. People need to lean into the curves in order to complete the rail, but today I watched my friend try countless times only to have her tails drag in the snow everytime she tried because the rail is too low.

I implore you to consider the recommendations I have made, because at this moment, the parks at Mt. Hood Meadows are the worst I have seen since I started skiing at Meadows. I know safety is important at Meadows, but I guarantee a park with small features set up poorly and inconsistently is much more dangerous than a park with large and difficult features setup correctly and precisely.

Sincerely,

Cameron Brown

 
sent a copy of cams letter and added this at the bottom

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i strongly agree with every aspect of his complaint and i can asure you that 90

percent of the people who use the parks and know what they are doing agree with

what was said.

i believe the main problem is the lack of effort on the different groups

involved to make things work. yes it takes a lot of work to dig everything out

after a storm but other resorts make it work, you are only hurting your business

by not putting forth the effort. if the parks are well groomed, layed out, and

well maintained with features that allow the progression of the sport then

people will notice. you will get more visits and more coverage in magazines

and other media. i hope my complaints reach open ears or i may have to take my

business elsewhere.

Sincerely,

Brian Spere

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hope it works
 
I was up today, mostly chillin at the pipe (which is a little too wide) but I took a little tour over to park place. VERY DISSAPPOINTED.

Sure they have so many different parks and lots of features and cool names and marketing schemes but NOTHING IS DIALED IN OR SMOOTH. ugh I feel so dirty
 
I disagree about the wall ride

and if the jumps on Hrm had bigger loftier lips they would be totally clearable
 
about the walride it is supposed to be angled but its pretty rediculous right now... seriously. no tech shit at all. at all
 
The 1/4 pipe at the bottom of the pipe is the most worthless thing ever... you have to get out of the pipe early to hit it. what a waist of snow. why not put a rail island at the bottom of the pipe or something...
 
yea i hit em today, they were smooth, the step up could use more pop

it just kinda sucks lapping those, they should extend that park around the corner with some rails and maybe another jump
 
meadows seems to always be better than tline, no matter what. Just the fact that you can actually ski and not have to skate a ton. jumps look alright, but vibe at meadows is also better. id say. But sick pics above.... killin the sw 7 op mute.
 
what.... there is no vibe at shredows...... thats why its lame..... come on ... you dont need to skate in salmon river.
 
salmon river is the only acception, and is really only good when palmer is open. And yes, on weekends with a crew meadows is the place to be.
 
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