So La Nina, where is all the snow you promised?

iLLbiLLy

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All right, we were all told this was supposed to be an epic season for snow, you know, like it was last year. But here we are nearing the end of December and the local resorts are still pressing their luck opening new terrain. Rocks scatter the runs. Stumps await skiers in the trees. Basically, areas that were open by the beginning of December last year are presently still far from skiable.

According to the Natural Resources Conservation Service, our snowpack is at 65 percent of normal for this time of year. So what gives? Have we been duped?

Well, according to the National Weather Service in Missoula, there is no reason to put away the powder skis and boards for good. Here's their recently released update on where the heck La Nina might be hiding:

NOAA's National Weather Service Climate Prediction Center has been forecasting a La Ni--a phase of the El Ni--o Southern Oscillation (ENSO) index for the northern hemisphere winter of 2011-2012. Indeed, La Ni--a conditions (anomalously cool surface water temperatures) have been present across much of the eastern Pacific Ocean near the equator since about Aug. 1, 2011. This indicates that La Ni--a is occurring.

However, the weather since late November over the Conterminous United States (CONUS) has not been what experts expect with La Ni--a. Instead, La Ni--a pattern typically brings frequent storms moving across the Northern Rocky Mountains, leading to a healthy mountain snowpack. Beginning in late November 2011, the storm track has steered around the Northern Rockies, favoring the desert southwest states and the southcentral CONUS, including drought stricken Texas.

So, when will La Ni--a weather patterns arrive? It is important to remember that the forecast for La Ni--a represents a seasonal forecast, for conditions expected for the December to March winter season. At this point, in early December, it is too early to determine the ultimate accuracy of the La Ni--a seasonal forecast, according to the National Weather Service. At some point late in December or early in 2012, the weather will likely begin to show more characteristics of a La Ni--a pattern, including frequent storms, adding to the mountain snowpack of Montana and northern Idaho.

What would signal such a change in the weather? One possible phenomenon that could trigger the expected change may be another large-scale feature known as the "Arctic Oscillation", or AO. The AO has been anomalously positive since the second half of November 2011. This is in contrast to the onset of winter in late 2010 (also a La Ni--a condition winter), when the AO was very negative for December 2010 and much of January 2011. So, perhaps when a change in the Arctic Oscillation occurs in the coming weeks and months, the La Ni--a pattern will begin to influence the day-to-day weather in Western Montana and Northern Idaho.
 
Thats cool, seems weird here in Lake Louise Alberta we have had really good early season conditions. Like way better then last year we have had stuff open a couple weeks ago that didn't open until January last year. I think partially because early season last year was terrible with avys and Such but snow sucked in December last year to for up here anyways and then January came and we got a foot of snow every weekend all winter long(which is a lot of snow for here) So if this winter works out like last it should be even better because we already have sucha good base for the powder so the skiing should be top notch. Hopefully all you down in the states and on the east also get a shit ton. And merry pow shredding to everyone!!!
 
Right here.

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And here.

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Neener neener. :)
 
As is typical for La Niña events, the Pacific storm train will really get going a bit late, Monday, 12/26. Be ready.
 
I hope so. My home mountian has a free night tomorrow and were gonna need all the snow we can get because the 6 trails open are Gina get wrecked.
 
This is good. Does anyone else notice how angry everyone gets here when there's no snow.

It will come.
 
Looking ahead at the forcast in the Whitefish, Montana area and it looks like a huge storm is gunna be rolling through but then again the weather pattern can change in a matter of seconds, still stoked and hoping though
 
The overall pattern can't change in seconds. It's virtually a given that we're moving into a period of wet zonal flow (i.e. the "base-builder" jet).
 
Ya just gotta start showin her some love. Like come on just cause she put on a couple pounds tossing out a lil baby, n got a little bitchy just gotta tell her shes beautiful n tap that ass, once you start getting er going she'll be makin it rain like hurricane katrina
 
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