So it turns out weed is pretty bad for you

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7150274.stm

Now before you start yelling at me that its a lie, read the article and then tell me what the researchers are doing wrong.

Cannabis smoke 'has more toxins'
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Cannabis is the most commonly used illegal drugInhaled cannabis smoke has more harmful toxins than tobacco, scientists have discovered.[/b]The Canadian government research found 20 times as much ammonia, a chemical linked to cancer, New Scientist said.The Health Canada team also found five times as much hydrogen cyanide and nitrogen oxides, which are linked to heart and lung damage respectively.But tobacco smoke contained more of a toxin linked to infertility. Experts said users must be aware of the risks.About a quarter of the population in the UK smokes tobacco products, while a sixth of 15 to 34-year-olds have tried cannabis in the past year, making it the most commonly used drug.
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The confirmation of the presence of known carcinogens and other chemicals implicated is important information for public health[/b]
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David Moir, lead researcherPrevious research has shown cannabis smoke is more harmful to lungs than tobacco as it is inhaled more deeply and held in the lungs for a longer period.However, it has also been acknowledged that the average tobacco user smokes more than a cannabis user.Researchers from Health Canada, the government's health research department, used a smoking machine to analyse the composition of the inhaled smoke for nearly 20 harmful chemicals.They also looked at the sidestream smoke, given off from the burning tip of the product and responsible for 85% of the smoked inhaled through passive smoking.Concentrations[/b]In most cases, the comparison on sidestream smoke broadly mirrored that of inhaled smoke.However, in the case of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, the toxin linked to infertility, the researchers found concentrations were actually higher in cigarette smoke.The study also showed little difference in the concentrations of a range of chemicals, including chromium, nickel, arsenic and selenium.Lead researcher David Moir said: "The consumption of marijuana through smoking remains a reality and among the young seems to be increasing."The confirmation of the presence of known carcinogens and other chemical is important information for public health."Dr Richard Russell, a specialist at the Windsor Chest Clinic, said: "The health impact of cannabis is often over-looked amid the legal debate."Evidence shows it is multiplied when it is cannabis compared to tobacco."Tobacco from manufacturers has been enhanced and cleaned whereas cannabis is relatively unprocessed and therefore is a much dirtier product."These findings do not surprise me. The toxins from cannabis smoke cause lung inflammation, lung damage and cancer."Stephen Spiro, of the British Lung Foundation, added the findings were "a great worry".
 
i just quit cuz ive been having this nasty cough. two weeks its still there. thought it was the razz but idk...soooo true story!
 
theres always so many articles and opionions and reasearch on this.

i remember a couple months ago when there were threads with articles saying it was like good for you and shit.

i really dont think it can be good for you

i mean your burning something and putting the smoke in your lungs.

but i mean i dont think its as bad as cigs anyway...

cool article i guess. but im tired and didnt really get most of it
 
what about smoke from a vaporizer?

anyways, my advice is to acknowledge this study and don't go in denial about it. why is it that you only believe studies that say weed is fine, while you deny studies that say its harmful. they both should be equally considered. if you don't, then you're in denial.
 
yea i got the same cough, ive had it for about 2 weeks.

u caught a cold and smokein makes u more suseptable (sp?) to colds

im gunna stop for about 3 days
 
thats very true. you have to acknowledge both sides of any argument, especially one with such passionate members on both sides, and look at the strength of the argument itself without letting your own bias get into it too much.

to be perfectly honest, this doesnt surprise me that much. cos come on, how simple is "smoke (of any kind) = bad for your lungs) the question is, how bad, and in refrenece to other things?
 
what a HUGE surprise that inhaling smoke isn't the best thing in the world for you... who cares? we're all going to die anyway.
 
true, the whole method of just inhaling large amounts of carbon from smoke is bad for you. plus you get the added chemicals and thc.
 
I've learned that pretty much everything that's really enjoyable in life is, in one way or another, "bad for you." These "new findings" about marijuana are pretty interesting; say, if pot really contains so many carcinogens, wouldn't we have already noticed around "20 times" more longterm pot smokers than cigarette smokers dying from cancer? That certainly doesn't seem to be the case.

As for me, I'm not about to swear by any article that contains ridiculous, erroneous and malicious propaganda like this:

"Tobacco from manufacturers has been enhanced and cleaned whereas

cannabis is relatively unprocessed and therefore is a much dirtier

product."

Regardless of what this new study has discovered, the article is obviously a spin piece.
 
Pretty much. Until they can provide conclusive evidence as to why all the old people who smoked staggering amounts of weed in the 70s aren't dead but 80% of the cigarette smokers are despite weed's apparent harmful effects, then I'm not too concerned. And that quote is responsible for the milk all over my keyboard right now.
 
its not bad for you as long as you dont do it everyday. if you keep it to like 2 times a month you should be aight.
 
1. they don't show you where the information comes from

2. i dont believe for a second they put nickel and ammonia in cannibus, thats the kind of shit tobbacco companies pull to get you addicted to cigs

3. http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2001/10.11/marijuana.html

Study: Intelligence, cognition unaffected by heavy marijuana use

4. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm

Marijuana Cuts Lung Cancer Tumor Growth In Half, Study Shows

Now tell me that marijuana causes cancer, and cite your sources

5. http://www.hms.harvard.edu/news/pressreleases/bid/0300marijuanaheartattack.html

Study finds marijuana use can trigger heart attacks

I win, Europe loses. Go me.
 
I donno, but i found out the other day that if you pull through and you're using snow for the chamber, you get a mouthful of ash. So don't take the jew hit if you're using snow.
 
exactly!!! its bad 4 u or w/e if u do it often in great ammounts

but this is what i wanna do 4 suuure not 2 often and not in 2 great ammounts and i'll b alright... hopefully
 
wait a sec so first of all im gunna need you to tell me how you got ash through a bong and does the snow not jsut clog it or melt and slide through?
 
i would have to agree. this article does not surprise me much, except for that it affects your heart. i definitely didnt know that.but im not a huge smoker..but on occasion its really nice. as for the vaporizer...i have no idea.

this is a good article for this site to read. good thread.

 
I donno, I was just as surprised as you are. If you're referring to the air, air passes through snow easily, that's why you can put it in the ice-catcher. However, if you put it in the chamber where you normally put water, that's when you can get ash. I don't know if the hot air from the lit bowl creates a tiny tunnel through the snow for the ash to go through or what, but I got mad ash when I did it.
 
haha you got shit on...i got shit on a little while ago, swallowed about a half smoked bowl of sour deisel...no one cared though they were all too busy laughing. i wasnt even pulling hard. tasted like ass.
 
im not saying this article/research isn't credible, but for every website or study that tells you weed is bad i can show you about 5 that say it isn't. I really couldnt care less im still gonna smoke either way.
 
that tumor growth article is only about injecting pure thc. thc isnt the only thing in marijuana, theres lots of other crap that can be in there. plus you burn marijuana instead of injecting it.
 
What? Nah man.. injecting it is wayyy better...

jokes.

but anyway, i would much rather continue to smoke weed than ever smoke cigs, regardless of what some random, non-credible article from europe says.
 
im not trying to put down that article at all but i would like to know what they used to grow the pot. i think that organically grown pot would have much less harmful chemicals then some grown with fertilizers. just my two cents though.
 
And that is why you make firecrackers or other delicous marijuana treats... get the same effects without destroying your lungs!

Actually, I have no idea if it is still "bad" for you or whatever if you eat it, but it seems like anything that ever really bashes weed its about the inhaling of the smoke. So, i'm going to go out on a limb here and say its not as bad for you if you eat it rather than smoke it.

I would like to see a study on how harmful weed is to the body by comparing eating to smoking it. Now that would be something worth reading about and doing.
 
you realize the point of a bong is for the smoke to travel through water to purify it, right? so, why would you just load up snow and hit it? you have to wait for the snow to melt enough for there to be water for the smoke to go through... that's the whole point of a bong. if you didn't hit it like a moron, that wouldn't happen.
 
true that. they say cigs are a "cleaner product"...while weed is a fucking PLANT. But the processed, manufactured shit in cigarettes are somehow cleaner....
 
this is a peace of an essay i wrote last year:

Breathing in marijuana smoke is said to increase the chances of respiratory problems like persistent coughing, bronchitis. Recent research has even proven that poor nutrition is more harmful and deadly to the body than smoking and proper exercise will help prevent these negative effects from ever even happening. Contrary to most beliefs, marijuana is proven not to be a cause of lung cancer. There has never been a documented case of lung cancer in a marijuana-only smoker. Donald Tashkin, from the university of California, has been studying the effects of marijuana for over 30 years, trying to prove that smoking marijuana can cause cancer. "We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect." (Kaufman A10). Cigarettes, on the other hand, is the cause of 90% of cancer patients ("Lung cancer" n. pag.).

also the normal pot smoker dosent smoke 20 joints a day while the average ciggarette smoker smokes a pack a day.

 
weed acually has some protective effects from cancer and helps grow brain cells in the hippocampus(whitch in return will help with depression and anxiety). also you have to smoke more than once once a week to have any bad efects from pot
 
i agree with you about the carcinogen thing. but you have to remember that people who smoke tobacco smoke A LOT more in a day then people who smoke weed.

really, it is obviously going to be bad for you. it is fucking smoke being inhaled into your lungs and held there, common sense. it might not be as bad as some things make it out to be, but it is bad for you. i quit smoking weed just for the fact i like having money to spend on other things besides weed. as far as i'm concerned just take these articles with a grain of salt.
 
I have never heard of anyone dying directly from smoking weed. What it comes down to is that people that smoke tobacco, do it way more frequently then people that smoke pot. If you chain smoked joints all day every day then you would probably eventually get lung cancer like the people who chain smoke cigs.
 
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