my only complaint is that the production value of these movies if often low in the sense that, while they have amazing shots in them, the concept of telling a story about the evolution of the sport in question gets old after dogtown and z-boys. unfortunately, it's always the same deal, whether dogtown, riding giants, whatever. bunch of bros get together and blow people's minds. very cool the first time you see dogtown and z-boys, not so exciting afterwards.