sorry for the double, just going to clarify a few things so this doesn't start some crazy hate. As far as creativity goes, what I'm talking about the kind of stuff scott stevens does, little crazy things. I'd say for the most part were pretty much on the same page progression wise, except a lot of skiing is big spins, which will tone down eventually. Not that I don't like big spins is just that seeing them all the time gets annoying, its nice to have some variety. 4bi9 is a good example of where things should start to go, they know whats up