Smoking 1 J = 5 Cigs??

Arabian.

Arabian.

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I've only seen studies that show the effects of weed in cigarrette form, but what about in a pipe?

Bong?

Any other water pipe?

VAPORIZER?

I'd like to see some studies that include these areas. If you can find them, could you provide a link?
 
vaporizers you don't get any toxins. Waterbongs you get some but a lot less than joints and blunts.
 
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the people that did that must be talking like 1 cheech and chong joint = 5 pinner small cigs.. cause thats the only way it'd work... not to mention that i've never heard of any one dieing from smoking pot... well there was one time in school some "scientest" type guy or something said that there was some kids in england that died and all that was in there system was weed... it was funny cause i yelled out "BULL SHIT!" and he was like what you dont beleive me? and i was like no man if you smoked over a pound of pot in one sitting you'd pass out before you finished it cause THC Makes you tiered wayy before its "lethal" and so far i have never heard it being lethal.. not to mention that i think they did animal studies that would have been equal to a human smoking some rediculus number of pounds in one sitting, and the animal never died, so they ruled it out as a lethal drug.. to be honest its less deadly than pretty much anythign thats on the maket... like you'll die from a can of AXE spray before you'd die from smoking pot
 
i had to do a really in depth project for school on legalization, and i found out that weed smoke doesn't cause cancer, no matter how much you smoke. Weed and tobacco have very different chemicals, and the ones in tobacco are the cancer causing ones. Thats not to say weed smoke isn't bad for your lungs, but it just won't do anything serious.
 
No its actualy true, you get 5 times more tar in your lungs from smoking one j compared to smoking one cig
 
what that study said was that there is the same amount of tar in 1 joint as there is is in 5 ciggs. But, cigarettes contain way more carcinogenic compounds then weed. Plus, regular pot smokers don't smoke weed nearly as much as regular cigarette smokers smoke cigarettes.
 
and you dont die from ciggs you die from the cancer ciggs cuase, and 40 is almost here ya boy
 
but im pretty sure that the tar from weed doesnt cause cancer like cigs do...i could be wrong but thats just what i heard...and so im sure the tar still isnt good for you, but doesnt cause cancer??

correct me if im wrong, this topic interests me...
 
apparently vaporizers are pure thc. i dont believe it but whatever. and with bongs and any other waterpipe you are inhaling the same smoke as through a j. js and blunts you are also inhaling the smoke of the paper, but i dont know how bad that is for you. and pipes are the worst because you sometimes inhale ash
 
Umm, bongs are not the same as a Joint, because when your smoking a bong the smoke is filtering through the water, cooling the smoke and leaving tar in the water, making the smoke healthier.
 
Why wouldn't you believe it? The job of a real vapo is to heat the weed to a certain point where the THC will vaporize, without burning the weed and any carcinogens in it. If you have a real vaporizer and I dont mean a lightbulb, it will be all THC.
 
yeah its suppose to be something like that but the big catch is that ciggeret smoke fucks up a small ass passage in your lungs while weed smoke goes into a huge part of your lungs so it doesnt really mean anything
 
L'ESTEREL, Quebec -- Heavy marijuana smokers show less evidence

of lung injury than heavy tobacco smokers, and it may be

cannabinoids that are protecting them from developing a condition

like emphysema.

That's according to the principal investigator of a study done at

the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA).

Speaking at the third annual meeting of the International

Cannabis Research Society here, Dr. Donald Tashkin, a

pulmonologist and UCLA professor of medicine, concluded heavy

marijuana use did not cause the same degree of lung injury as

tobacco smoke.

His study, which aimed to measure the pulmonary effects of

habitual marijuana use, followed nine tobacco smokers, 10

marijuana smokers, 10 nonsmokers and four smokers of both

marijuana and tobacco. He gave both quantitative and qualitative

explanations for his finding.

Marijuana users in the study smoked three or four joints daily

for 15 years on average, while tobacco smokers in the study

smoked 25 cigarettes daily over a period of 20 years, indicating

a marked difference in exposure to smoke.

"There is a seven-fold difference in the amount of smoke to which

marijuana and tobacco smokers are exposed," he said.

"It's the quantitative difference in smoke exposure that might

explain the difference in the degree of lung injury as assessed

by these physiologic indices."

Moreover, the phagocytes gathered from the lungs of marijuana

smokers do not have the same properties as those gathered from

the lungs of tobacco smokers.

 
not sure what that's supposed to mean. That research shows that people that have less smoke in their body (4 cigs worth) over more smoke in their body (25 cigs worth) per day have less smoke damage. 

ANYONE COULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT

Yea, carcinogens are more concentrated in marijuana than cigs, but think how much less MJ you smoke... just enough to get high. It's not like being addicted to cigs and smoking all the time. So don't worry about it. Be thankful you don't live in L.A.... living places as grimy as that pile of shit will give you cancer faster than smoking MJ
 
and i mean, your not smoking a whole joint to your dome by your self on a regular basis.. well maybe you are, but normally you'll share it with other people. so techinaclly YOU arent even smoking a whole joint.
 
more tar in your lungs from your average joint than from a cig. The reason you don't seen weed smokers with all these problems is because they aern't smoking 12-20 joints a day.

The danger with weed is that the THC messes with the neurotransmitter receptor sites in your brain. That's why people who smoke a ton of weed all their lives are usually slower both physically and mentally. They just can't process and act on information as quickly because the pathways are all messed up.
 
Apparently bongs are one of the worst things you can do, because THC is water soluble (the opposite of popular opinion) and tars not so much (this much is true). So you don't get as high with as much pot, so you smoke more, and therefore inhale more tar.

Joints have no filter whatsoever, and are homogenious, they do not have other chemicals that help it burn more efficiently. With respect to tars, yes, smoking a joint is as bad as smoking a cigarette. But, because there are no added chemicals that make your lungs bleed, like in cigarettes, they are definately safer.

plus, I know people who smoke 2 packs of cigs a day, thats 50 cigarettes. Who smokes 10 joints a day?
 
I just read in a scientific journal article that cannabinoids are in fact water soluble, but that they are NOT VERY water soluble.
 
Think about it it though. Whether joints contain as much or more toxins as cigarettes or not, no one sits around for hours on end and chain smokes joints like some people do with cigarettes. Therefore you never really get as much "bad stuff" as you would with cigarettes.
 
yeah thats bullshit, if it was true ide be dead by now, and the only reason weed isnt legal is because the government cant make money off of it since theres so many people growing it and selling it, weed will never be legalized and cigarettes will never be less lethal then a joint
 
wtf, why do bongs not get you as high? Im pretty sure with my old 1ft bong I took 1 hit and I was good for atleast 2 hours.
 
ITs not the government as a whole that won't legalize weed. it is the fault of the bad image and ignorance of the citizens who vote in polititians who won't risk being seen as a bad guy because they vote to legalize weed. until weed becomes accepted by the public, it will be illegal. there are movements for medical maryjuana that are going strong but legalization for recreation will take a few decades.
 
If it is legalized, you don't have to buy it from the shitty-assed government, just keep on doin what youre doin.
 
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