Skiing video game

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CanadianSkiGod

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I know it may sound kinda gay, but it isnt, i'm interested in that kinda stuff. anyone know an affordable/free software to do video games? i would like to start off with a skiing game, and give it to newschoolers after.

My god... i can't think of anything funny to say here
 
I think you need a few different programs.

One to make the models.

One to code the game.

One to make the animations.

One to make maps.

etc. etc.

It's not worth the time.

Unless you just use flash.

search for it on Kazaa or something.

 
just play ski free. its sweet, its oldschool and hell it ends everytime with a obominable (sp) snowman eating you. you can never top that

the magazine is called 'POWDER' cool! - my stupid non-skiing friend
 
whats ski free?

'Remember, dont pull your dick out untill she asks, or sleeping, BAH' - Jay's little angel

'They call them fingers but ive never seen 'em fing......... oh, there they go' Otto in the stoner episode
 
fuck yea SKI FREE BABY

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ask lempke for ski free.. he made it into a newschoo game awhile back... it was pretty BA.... ya, drop him a line about that. ask about the half life mod.....(sorry andy, had to mention it)

-Pat

WBP|films
 
i DON'T wanna be an ass, BUT to do a skiing game you need to have a general knowledge in the following (and this is w/o doing multiplayer):

1. collision control theory

2. pretty decent knowledge of physics

3. 3d math (that's college calc 3 level)

4. combinatorics and combinatorial algorithms

5. animation and modelling techniques

6. on the fly 3d world modelling and rendering

7. linear algebra

8. understand the graphics hardware and bandwidth controls on the chipsets you'll be working with.

on top of that, you have to put it all together and optimize the code. let's just say stuff like quake 2 took a little over a year for a whole team of people to write. there are no 'programs' to make games just so you know. i'm working on a 3d world ski game right now. i'm using lightwave 3d, maya, project, and then having a friend of mine do the sound who's been doing studio recordings for bands for the last like 9 or so years. good luck man, but if you can't do the cross product of 1 5 4 and 0 1 0 in your head while you're reading this...don't bother...not being an asshole at all, but 2d games are just as difficult w/one less dimension.

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I always say what I feel and that is a promise, nothing in life is above being honest - 311

from chaos comes clarity, I tell ya what you appare to me, you ought to know glycerin tears don't fool me, i tell ya delusions plaguing everybody - 311
 
Ok, on my ski free, you only get eaten when you fall, if you never fall, can you make it to the bottom of the hill???

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When your going big mountain, off da cliffs, you gotta briing your first aid, your shovel, your water, your food, your helmet, your radio, all your safety gear, cuz diing aint livin man
 
antadam, you are just so smart. I enjoy how you make lists so as to sound like you know so much about everything. 'You will never make a ski game! you aren't smart enough, but I am!'. Why don't you, instead of deliberatly trying to make something sound bigger than it is, give people advice about how to start learning what they want to know.

Anyone can make a ski game, it just might take 5 years of research to do it.

But seeing as you are in fact smarter than the rest of us, why don't you show us the 'calc 3 level' ski game you're making using some 3d graphics programs and a sound engineer?

 
if you dont fall and get eaten then eventually lap the course and come down through the start place. it just keeps repeating until you get caught and eaten. i am the champ by the way.

-Dan

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Where were you April 26, 1992?

I neeeed two perrs.

Representin' in the 3-1-5
 
He said he wasnt trying to be an ass, he was being honest. He didnt say 'I am going to make the sickest ski game ever' he said he is 'working' on one or something.

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Junction 133 Productions
 
Maybe he wasn't trying, but it doesn't change the fact that he was a complete ass. Completely unneeded reply.

It was assumed that this ski god guy doesn't know anything about physics or 3d modelling. Just because you know a lot, doesn't mean everyone else knows nothing.

While I'm taking the time to reply again, I may as well add that you can get around knowing a lot of that by using a pre-made engine. There are modules that take care of collission detection, multi-pass texturing, culling, etc. But hey, what do I know. I'm sure antadam will assume I'm not smart enough to know anything of the sort.

 
I PASSED THE MONSTER IS SKI FREE!!! BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!

theres a natural mystic flowing through the air if you listen carefully now you will hear. its the first trumpet calling. might as well be the last. many more will have to suffer many more will have to die dont ask me why. things are not the way they used to be.
 
yeah man you're a little bitter. despite that it might've come off wrong to you, and i don't mean this to be rude (even though your reply to my post is exactly how mike nick replies to everything i say), but have you ever done low level game or graphics coding?

i'm not gonna bother dignifying what you posted w/a reponse on the other hand.

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I always say what I feel and that is a promise, nothing in life is above being honest - 311

from chaos comes clarity, I tell ya what you appare to me, you ought to know glycerin tears don't fool me, i tell ya delusions plaguing everybody - 311
 
Hehe, sounnds like someone has a stick up their ass.

When you've accomplished as much as Adam has in his life before the age of 22, then you can talk about people being assholes.

-Andy

I am God... Please feel free to take a number, I'll be right with you.

 
o yea...i learned all that graphic stuff in the second grade...easy as pie... hey ya know GTA 3 and GTA Vice City, all my creation...yep no one helped me, i just got bored one night and decided to create a game...do you like it?

www.spyder.com

'save the trees, wipe your ass with an owl!'

 
ah shit, i was hoping to do a skiing video game. no im sad. so there is no hope?

My god... i can't think of anything funny to say here
 
Antadam,

Sorry to say it but you sound like an immature, insecure and clueless 12 year old boy.

I have a couple of problems re your post. Since you gave me so much to comment on, I decided to just review each list element one by one.:

1. collision control theory

- Re: to what?? Of the physics of the objects in the game? Of your boss's foot to your ass when he realizes you dont' know shit but a bunch of funny words?? Hopefully you can code an engine that would take this into account so that when you code the actual game this won't be a problem. The graphics engine and the actual GAME are different. U know?

2. pretty decent knowledge of physics

- So that you realize how little you know about what you are doing...

3. 3d math (that's college calc 3 level)

- 3d math?? I've done college calc level 3.. and 4. Let me tell you, I've never heard the term '3d math'. I think we refer to our 3rd and 4th level math classes as Integration and Differential Equations.

4. combinatorics and combinatorial algorithms

- I have a combinatorial algorithm for you: Some text books, an open mind, and knowing when you are talking bullshit.

5. animation and modelling techniques

- Yes. Did you know that Vice City was programmed using ONLY GIF animations and cleaver bitmapping.

6. on the fly 3d world modelling and rendering

- In the 1980's we used to sell 3D cards too. They weren't the ones we know today. They were actually sold with 5 year old etheopian children equiped with graphing calculators. They would do all of the 3d rendering calculations by hand 30 times a second to produce the 31337 3D graphix of pong!

7. linear algebra

- This should be WAY beyond the capabilities of a '3rd level math' student.

8. understand the graphics hardware and bandwidth controls on the chipsets you'll be working with.

- WRONG!!! You do NOT code for a specific chip set. Ever heard of DirectX or OpenGL?? They are CHIPSET INDEPENDANT. You code for the API (application programming interface) and they communicate with the drivers which then communicate with the graphics card. It would be REALLY dumb if you had to code for every chipset on the market...

...on top of that, you have to put it all together and optimize the code.

WRONG! You should write optimized code the first time around. Why would you want to optimize code that's already written?? Bad, bad, bad practice. Do it right the first time, save yourself the trouble.

...let's just say stuff like quake 2 took a little over a year for a whole team of people to write.

Wouldn't it be nice to crank out an entire game, start to finish in a year??? Damn, i must meet the project manager, sorry, wizard, who managed that!

...there are no 'programs' to make games just so you know.

I was sure there was Microsoft Game?? It gives you a wizard with a few questions and will crank out a ready to go game!! It's fucking incredible, all the pros use it.

...i'm working on a 3d world ski game right now. i'm using lightwave 3d, maya, project, and then

Great, so you got these beautiful models. I'm sure people will love staring at them.. since they wont' be fucking moving without a GAME ENGINE!!

... having a friend of mine do the sound who's been doing studio recordings for bands for the last like 9 or so years.

I bet your one of those kids that buys a stero system and rims for pimping out a car, when you don't yet have a car right? I sure hope the audio will give you the inspiration you need to make a wicked company logo since the game itself won't do much!

... good luck man, but if you can't do the cross product of 1 5 4 and 0 1 0 in your head while you're reading this...

Then you should't be in charge of writing the game engine. You should do the logo!

don't bother...not being an asshole at all, but 2d games are just as difficult w/one less dimension.

WRONG!!! 2D games are as simple as a 2 dimentional array and some cleaver algorithms for interactions between the objects.

Sorry dude, I dont' mean to be an ass but... ;) You dont' know too much about programming a game. If you are serious about making your ski game i recommend you go and find yourself an open source game engine and start reading the accompanying documentation. I'm sure you could do it, but reading it would require you taking your head out of your ass...

Have a nice day.

Ciao

~NoPoles

 
What does accomplishing a lot have to do with being or not being an asshole?

And how do you know I haven't accomplished a lot? How do you know I'm not the lead designer of a gaming engine that many of you probably use every day?

You assume that everyone is dumb. Get over your self-proclaimed intelligence.

Typing 1337 doesn't make you a good hacker, just as typing a list of big words doesn't make you smarter than everyone.

 
Dude, Adam is one of the top seniors at UVM right now, he knows what the fuck hes talking about. I'm sorry that you're such an idiot.

-Andy

I am God... Please feel free to take a number, I'll be right with you.

 
i give up...i don't know where any of you people are coming from, but linear algebra is way below 3rd dimension math. congrats on calc 3...i'm oh so proud. i thought i was in the freeze forum

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I always say what I feel and that is a promise, nothing in life is above being honest - 311

from chaos comes clarity, I tell ya what you appare to me, you ought to know glycerin tears don't fool me, i tell ya delusions plaguing everybody - 311
 
'And how do you know I haven't accomplished a lot? How do you know I'm not the lead designer of a gaming engine that many of you probably use every day? '

Because you're an idiot?

-Andy

I am God... Please feel free to take a number, I'll be right with you.

 
on a side note, if you don't think it's important to understand the hardware of the machine you're working on, you're a confused person. so you're telling me sending 30,000 triangles to a gpu in one shot isn't a big deal? you're telinng me that knowing how the integrated altivec engine works in the g4 macs doesn't matter? or how to unroll loops for better caching control and cpu dispersion algorithms w/o clogging the machine's bandwidth? you'd answer no to those, but i'm ont even gonna bother reading this thread anymore. now i remember why i never came back here in the first place.

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I always say what I feel and that is a promise, nothing in life is above being honest - 311

from chaos comes clarity, I tell ya what you appare to me, you ought to know glycerin tears don't fool me, i tell ya delusions plaguing everybody - 311
 
I love how Andy and Adam just assume they are smarter then everyone else. You may be a bright kid but that doesnt mean everyone else is a moron. Andy...how do you know powskier isnt one of the top designers at 3DO or a internationally know programmer?? Or that NoPoles isnt top of his class at some big name university?...I'll quote you on this one 'because your an IDIOT!'

Maybe adam was trying too hard to sound smarter then the rest of the world and made a few mistakes. Like the fact that he has 2 modeling and rendering packages (woohoo...I have those too) but he never makes any reference to either using or creating his own (cause he is that smart) game engine to actually make something happen in his game (which he also doesnt need a whole team to develop, just himself and a guy with a soundboard. I cant wait to see this game when it comes out. (and I am not saying you couldnt do it...I just want to see it done)

well hope I wasnt too much of an ASSHOLE about all this...I know Adam will never read it anyways since he is too good for the rest of us.

CMc

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You people really miss the point a lot. Do you even read before replying?

It doesn't MATTER if he is top at his school, it's clear that he in fact does not know what he's talking about. Maybe he has a communication inferiority where he isn't able to put into words what he processes in his mind.

I'm not a succesfull person because I'm an 'idiot'. wow. You come up with that yourself eintstein? What, you got a team of monkeys working around the clock for you? (ref: usual suspects)

Of course linear algebra is under calc level 3. That was the point.

If you guys are so much smarter than the rest of us, then why do you glance over all points and reply with 'we know what we're talking about'?

 
Antadam

BTW, you don't send 'triangles' to a video card. You send vertices, which are x,y,z coordinates in a 3D environment. The video card then links these points up to create pollygones, usually triangles, which are then textured, light, etc... to create the solid looking model.

And no '30,000 triangles in one shot' isn't a whole lot considering modern graphics cards render 30 million pollygones in a second. And if you meant second instead of shot, then the resulting graphics would be pretty blockly looking.

And wtf is unrole loops??? When you have a loop, all of the data required during processing in a loop is kept in the cache and the pipeline. You don't 'unrole' a loop, that's the fucking point, you LOOP! If you didn't loop then you would be processing sequentially which would result in WAY more overhead than if you were looping.

I'm no game designer but I do understand all the theory behind this I recommend you know what you are talking about before posting. You still sound like a 12 year old.

Ciao

~NoPoles

 
I called him an idiot because Adam had no intention of being a dick and he still took it that way. Christ, this is why NS fucking sucks.

-Andy

I am God... Please feel free to take a number, I'll be right with you.

 
oh you were talking about Antadam NoPoles, whatever, im glad that he told me not to waste my time on doing a video game, but he just had to say that it was beyond my intellectual capacities

My god... i can't think of anything funny to say here
 
I'm not joking, not being a jackass, or anything when I say this. Adam DOES know what hes talking about, hes top in his senior class at UVM, hes smart as fuck. You're twisting his half-assed argument attemped (because he doesn't care about you fucks) into an attempt to say that he doesn't know what hes talking about. Sorry, but he does.

-Andy

I am God... Please feel free to take a number, I'll be right with you.

 
canadianskigod,ski free is the sickest game out there,i never could escape the abomidable snowman,he always ate me the fucker

friend: You want a piece of garlic bread?

me: no thanks,im not a vampire.
 
everyone except adam and andy is wicked gay. especially nopoles.

'Christ, this is why NS fucking sucks.'

got that right!

 
someones a little disgruntled,not getting any bum sex lately?

friend: You want a piece of garlic bread?

me: no thanks,im not a vampire.
 
ok umm i think that you all need to spend some time away from the computer...

do something productive with your lives... like ski

Wouldn't the world be a better place if the kids would just give the rabbit his goddamn trix?
 
Wow lexhavoc, that was a very welcoming comment. People dissagreeing on something doesn't make the medium in which they're arguing on a target for 'burning', does it? Jeezus.

Maybe adam knows what he's talking about. Maybe no poles does. Maybe no one does.

How does people dissagreeing make the website shit though? Please aim your anger and defensiveness in the right direction.

Matt

 
but it IS impossible to escape the monster. the game stops when he appears. and lexhavoc you bitch, if you dont like ns, then o fuck yourself but dont annoy us.

My god... i can't think of anything funny to say here
 
goign with waht harvey said.... yes... mabye you're all right... from what I know, adam DOES know what he's takling about. it sounds like the rest of you do too... so ya, first one with a good game gets a prize ;)

-Pat

WBP|films
 
ya igot a progream that makes games, i hook up my mic and say SKI and it makes wicked x box ski games, but its my program ,and the games are like 2 megs, im too lazy to host THAT VAST BANDWIDTH!

'moseley kicks ass, you guys are just jealous of his money and all the hot chicks he gets and his hair...beautiful hair, so soft, oohhhh'-alpentalik

skiing with sunglasses is extrememly gay! but skiing with sun glasses on and goggles on your head is straight.'- Alpentalik

I swear to follow the teachings of JMMT
 
No, its prolly illegal in the state you live in canadianskigod, canadas gay aobut that, and everything else! how is queersville canada? were are the eskimos? igloos? sea blubber? curling? pump shoes?

'moseley kicks ass, you guys are just jealous of his money and all the hot chicks he gets and his hair...beautiful hair, so soft, oohhhh'-alpentalik

skiing with sunglasses is extrememly gay! but skiing with sun glasses on and goggles on your head is straight.'- Alpentalik

I swear to follow the teachings of JMMT
 
yea i think thereis only one way to solve this. i must play each of your games.....then one i find most entertaining and the one who explains it to me....not in computer talk, but translates it to normal peopel words, well shit they win. but lets all remember, entertaining is the key.

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hahahahahahahhahhahahhahahaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahNopoles is the biggest nerd in coontucky!!! he said RE!! i bet he uses it in everyday gay talk! well, excuse me fat ugly nerd gf, re:our date, i have a quake 3 clan match, cant make it! {WOP} r0X0rX

'moseley kicks ass, you guys are just jealous of his money and all the hot chicks he gets and his hair...beautiful hair, so soft, oohhhh'-alpentalik

skiing with sunglasses is extrememly gay! but skiing with sun glasses on and goggles on your head is straight.'- Alpentalik

I swear to follow the teachings of JMMT
 
i'm just posting one last time (it's like a drug, so i'm in the second stage of denial) to explain a few things and to keep some people happy i won't use numbers...i'll just hit return a bunch. please, just stop arguing over this...some of you are getting way too into it and feel you need ot have the last word on everything (i'm posting an explination...to me this is not a last word). besides, if i post and there are only 22 posts and a few hours later it's at 49 or so posts, some people obviously wanna hear more.

the first thing is, nopoles it's hard for me to take people seriously when they have only 1 or 2 posts. it makes me think that whoever is posting is just here to somehow rip on something i said and nothing more. i'm not going to say you're wrong, just keep that in mind. additionally, i can't find where i said i was smarter than anyone else. i may do well in school and if you talk to any of my friends i don't talk about how well i do in school...i try to act humble about it and only deal w/people who are truly interested in relatively the same topics that i am. so in either case, forgive me if that's the impression i gave and my deep interests in computer graphics implementations. i got a 960 on my sats the first time and i'm proud of it b/c the second time i scored well over 1300 (i'd like to add though that sat's matter very little).

secondly, macmahoooon, b/c i mention lightwave and a few other programs, doesn't mean anything...i was just giving a list of the stuff i'm using in an implementation. on a side note, i am working on my own game engine using ideas from when i worked on a few open source lgpl engines (oger and crystal if you're concerned about which ones; i wrote some alteration plugins and small optimizations). if you really want you could take 10 minutes and d/l anything i have or am using off kazaa or whatever p2p program people are using now. it's not a big deal and i never made it out to be one.

powskier1080, here's your response that doesn't have 'we know what we're talking about' in it. so you know, in the schools i've looked at and the schools most of my friends go to, linear algebra is considered on the same level, if not higher than calc 3. despite that it may be lower to both you and i, to the administration it apparently is not. i never called you an idiot, so when you make references to comments, please add the people in there.

NoPoles, when you said you don't need to know about the hardware, i'm guessing that's why you said stuff is sent to the gpu in points, not triangles. the main gpu companies, ati and nvidia, both take primitive polygon objects including triangles and quadrilaterals directly to the gpu. forgive me for the typo, but i meant 30 million triangles. overlapping 30 million triangles in certain ways at a specific levels has been known to cause bandwidth clogs on some models of the nvidia geforce 4 chip sets. for this reason multiple buffer flushes are sometimes required. this is why there is such a huge jump in drawing performance between the geforce 4 460 and the geforce 4 4200.

NoPoles, when you run a loop the loop isn't put into cache and the pipeline. the pipeline is a list of instructions so EVERYTHING from the program goes into the pipeline. The cache on the other hand is a problem. Say I have a loop such as this:

int a1000, b1000;

for (int i = 0; i

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I always say what I feel and that is a promise, nothing in life is above being honest - 311

from chaos comes clarity, I tell ya what you appare to me, you ought to know glycerin tears don't fool me, i tell ya delusions plaguing everybody - 311
 
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