Skiing is too easy.

I hope u know what being pro means. it means spinning both directions going either forward and switch, Getting a variation of pretzels, slides, butters, hand-plants, etc. on park rails as well as urban, then u have to take everything you know and add style to it, make it look smooth and clean. Doing these things in the park is not easy, no matter how perfect it may be sculpted. Now you have to take that outside of the park, building jumps in the back country is the next step, after that is being able to do everything that you know how to do and do it off of natural terrain. Plus skiing has evolved and progressed so much that 540's, 720's, and 900's are what the pros do on a day to day basis just to keep in shape, once comps happen they push it into 1080's 1260's and 1440's. so please i doubt you would be able to go pro in one year.
 
I guess I see the logic of the thread creator's argument now after looking at this post with an objective mind.

No, a first year skier could NOT even begin to compete in anything outside of the park. But in the park there are rollerbladers who are learning 9s and corks and shit in their first few months...park is more gymnastics and air sense and shit while big mountain is more of how you feel on your skis and how big balls you have (not saying park isnt ballsy either).

If you look at being a pro in a certain area, it means you're the best at your discipline. It leaves almost no room to be the best in another one.The best big mountain skiers can't always throw down more than a 3 or a 5 and the best park skiers will have trouble shredding a sick line...there are the exceptions of course (henrik windstedt, t-hall, jon olsson, and a few others).
 
skiing hasnt gone anywhere in 4 years, our idea of style is forced, and dude who made this thread pretty much nailed it
 
idk about forced but more single minded. as one guy put it skiing is the only sport where it is totally unacceptable to move. i have no problem with that style but goddamn lets see some variety. anytime anyone tries to break out of the xxxxl afterbang mold they get hated on.
 
i copy that......style fuck shit fuck most kids style comes from there mommy and daddys wallet...shit my first season i landed 1080 claim..what that was 99 and not on a brek or keystone. jump.... invent yes ..ski yes..shred yes... water ramps no ......Skate or Die!! skiing is easy .. and i love it........
 
Im not saying that you wouldn't progress a lot in the first year, i did. I'm saying that there's a very very small chance, almost none, that you would become pro in the first year.
 
or the too tight for life awful daiper but girls jeans shifty mode.

there is no inbetween its just one extreme or the other and it pretty much put a stop to anything good happening.

other than the skijocks who train halfpipe and now only do triple flips for paycheques.
 
and even the tight pants has never really taken off.... its still considered "gay" by most
 
i will agree that most of the tricks are too easy but when it comes to putting style in, thats where we are stuck, you cant copy the style of simon dumont or tanner hall, you need your own style.
 
pretty much any good gymnast will be able to throw a double on skis within a year with style, which therefore qualifies you as sponsorable and being able to win big air comps and then get free stuff. So, I think that there's a pretty good chance that many people (if they wanted to) could go pro pretty easily with a bit of practice within the first 2 years in the park discipline.
 
this discussion is so valid right now,

in baseball, when you turn pro you have to use a wooden bat.

if freestyle skiing was for some reason more difficult, we wouldnt have am skiers doing pro tricks.
 
so to cross that over to skiing we should make pros use inferior skis? that would let am skiers go even bigger than the pros.
 
One of the questions ive always wanted to know is, what do you mean by cant ski well? coming from a state with many runs 45 degrees or steeper, i know that there are some good skiers. we don't have a very good park anywhere and so I've always wondered how bad the people who ns claims can only ski park actually are.also, to answer the OP question i think its more about accessibility. it may help improvement to have a nice set up, but you still wont see people that dont ski 100+ days a year making it to the top. you also wont see pussies getting to the top because no matter what it is still going to be scary to try the stuff you have to do to become pro.
 
i can do double corks and shit, i am 17, i have also been skiing since i was 3, it wasnt easy at all i have to say
 
I see your point at my mountain I see all the freestyle team basically slide down to the park. Their actual skiing is terrible. given those kids can spin and flip and do rails but the pros can ski everywhere and most pros have a racing background and switched the freestyle. I hate to put freestylers into this generalization but probably 70% of freestylers cant ski for shit, Call me out on this post but at least on my mountain and most other mountains on the EC kids cant really ski
 
thank you for this. i can't believe no one quoted this yet. the first sentence of the second paragraph pretty much sums up the debate.. along with the rest of the well laid out paragraphs. seriously.. it's pretty logical and makes complete sense.
i remember back in the day when i started (1999) when my local park was so terrible and there were probably 5 other freestyle skiers at the hill. but most importantly i hadn't been exposed to good park features or even certain basic tricks like 270s off until 2 years into it. exposure is everything. think about how newschoolers provides detailed information on "how to become a better skier" aka videos, threads, pictures and thus making it "easIER" to "make it pro".
all the opportunities are now available to every skier if they so please. NS, amazing parks, camps, trampolining, water ramps, equipment all make it EASIER to become "pro" faster.
 
i could learn all the tricks and not have the style, originality or creativity that

pros that kids look up to have.
 
You can get good in a year, but no matter how good you get in a year you'll never be able to double flip off cliffs. Future of skiing is in the backcountry.
 
^agreed style and being confident and smooth with everything is hard

i agree with you a little, its too easy for kids to get good and not realize theres a lot more to skiing then 270ing out in a dress and afterbanging, tricks IMO dont define you as a good skier, go shred some pow in the trees real fast and smooth and then see what happens
 
Dude I totally feel part of what you're saying.Doubles and huge spins are stupid and inaccessible. So are huge jumps.But I don't think that means that we have to make learning park terrifying. Lots of people just wanna hit a box to say they did it and brag to everyone that they did a 50 on a box when they were in Vail over X-mass break last season. Then they go out and buy some ski videos and park skis for the couple weeks they ski a year and bring money to skiing. The problem is mountains that only have a flat box and a 10ft jump because they're afraid of the liability.
 
first of all if this were true

the whole population of NS would be pro(considering we all ski at least every weekend in season)
 
ok let me set something straight. I snowboard as well as ski. I love the fuck outta both of them, but skiing is a fuckton harder than snowboarding. I'm pretty young and it took my a day to 360 on a snowboard and like 3 sessions on skis. If you think skiings easy, snowboard. Sorry bout the hate
 
^^ both of you need to respect here. First of all, the thread creator has been skiing in this scene longer than you. Second, as far as people turning pro within in a year, Chris Turpin was pretty dam close and that was before parks were as big as they are now.

Therefore, he makes a good point using Turpin as an example. With parks so strong, people could progress even faster than Turpin did. Ns is not getting dumber, it just that more and more people are contributing more and more ideas that are initially perceived as dumb or retarded.
 
i get this thread! There are a lot of skiers who ski park at my resort and you prolly couldn't take them down a steep ass race hill or nice pow or mogul run. but then again the park is really all we have here....
 
this thread is the reason why we should take all retards and put them in a "concentrated work" camp where stupid shit like this can never be allowed.
 
I see his point, but like one of the guys above me, I live in Indiana and maybe get 15 inches of real snow a year if that. The rest is all made, and we dont have moutains to ski, we ski the park and jib on shit on the other trails. Thats why its progressing, thats what everyone is doing sking park.
 
little logic proof sorta..
many people think doing more difficult tricks is fun.
so if you say "skiing's too easy"...
it sounds like "skiing's too fun"...
and that's why we're all here. because it's fun.
(and having fun is good.)
if it comes easy for you, win some contests and get some money.
i'm old so i'm sticking with the fun.
 
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