Skiing is not 'real' enough

linus_deboss

linus_deboss

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anyone ever felt like the whole freeskiing thing is so... fake? Like, everyone hiding behind their baggy clothing, long hair, sunglasses, hisptery ass tight pants or whatever - but noone on the mountain truly is who he is in the streets (Harlaut and Casabon being some of the few keeping it real, same goes to all the olympic jocks looking like golf players in the streets - still gay lol).

Like in skateboarding, there is no hiding your face, no "skateboarding outfit", no difference between streetwear and snowwear... and there is no fake style in skateboarding (or if there is, it's much harder to aquire and much less appreciated, anyone would take a sketchy sick trick over a steezy basic anyday - because that's the real deal)

I'm talkin to all those things like "focusing only on style" leading to someone only ever doing blind 2s on flattubes and butters over knuckles - and getting props for it.

Of course, there are never ever as much trick possibilities and in Skateboarding, Rollerblading, BMXing or any of these other sports, so it's a bit more important to ride cleaner, yet the whole scene looks so fucking fake to me. In a way where I tell myself idgaf about anyone else I just go skiing for the feeling it gives me... in skateboarding I'm alot more hyped about the different little scenes, videos and anything, just because it's way easier to relate to - simply, it's realer.

Maybe this sounds like a lot of fucktarded gibberish to most of you but if someone understands what I'm trying to say - do you agree? Is OP retarded? Or is it just OP's imagination?

Lemme know, shoot me your opinions - bored anyways.
 
If anybody else has something meaningless they want to complain about, post it in here so Ski Gabber doesn't fill up with people bitching just for the hell of it.
 
13458069:JibbaTheHutt said:
i wear skinny jeans on the streets and ride in skinny pants on the mountain, come at me bro.
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Wtf im not calling you out dog

13458070:Brocka_Flocka said:
I don't know about you guys, but I wear my helmet everywhere I go.
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same here bud
 
Well I mean, normal people don't walk around in snow pants and huge jackets all the time because like you don't need to. I wear my Jacket outside in the winter and I wear tall hoodies with leggings when its cold enough. But with skateboarding you don't need a lot of gear, usually just your board and skate shoes, maybe a helmet and then normal clothes. So its easy to wear that kind of stuff in every day life. If you saw someone walking down the street in ski boots, snow pants, a huge jacket and goggles that would be pretty fuckin weird. So I don't really understand what you mean/:
 
13458080:Mingg said:
Well I mean, normal people don't walk around in snow pants and huge jackets all the time because like you don't need to. I wear my Jacket outside in the winter and I wear tall hoodies with leggings when its cold enough. But with skateboarding you don't need a lot of gear, usually just your board and skate shoes, maybe a helmet and then normal clothes. So its easy to wear that kind of stuff in every day life. If you saw someone walking down the street in ski boots, snow pants, a huge jacket and goggles that would be pretty fuckin weird. So I don't really understand what you mean/:
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So tru. Although I will wear old ski pants out to a sporting event or to go hiking when it's cold enough. This past year I've also worn my ski helmet a few times when I was cutting widow makers out of the trees in my yard. For 'real'.
 
I'm not sure where to start with this but I think you are confusing clothing style and skiing style which are two really different things. Clothing style is pretty simple, its what people chose to wear and the only thing you need to do to "keep it real" there is wear what you want. It's entirely personal opinion, whether what you want to wear happens to be popular or obscure. It's not like its black and white either, I have a pair of baggy pants and a pair of skinny pants, not so I can be considered cool universally but because I like how both of them look. Essentially clothing style has nothing to do with skiing itself being real or not.

Skiing style is how you ski, what tricks you chose to do and how you move while doing them. Your skiing style is generally something you kind of develop as you learn, but if you are comfortable enough with skiing you can adjust it how you want. Everyone is different though, so its impossible to completely copy someones style without accidentally or purposely put your own touch on it.

Essentially, "keeping it real" is doing what you want and putting your own twist on things.

That said, I think skiing is not keeping it real. Skiing has arguably the longest and most widespread heritage of any action sport EVER. By the late 90's we had let FIS pretty much take complete control of the sport. FIS likes using the word "homologized" which means standardized so competitions could be fair. This is the equivalent of an action sport committing suicide. Because the FIS had almost complete control over anything "official" in the sport they were stifling anyone who disagreed with their vision (aka skiing = gymnastics or track otherwise your wrong). Before the internet if you weren't sanctioned by the FIS you didn't exist (the exception is Extreme Skiing which survived solely on Movies and Magazines)

So what skiing did is "rebel" by starting the freeskiing thing we all like by taking elements from all these other action sports that didn't have a governing body. If you look at something from the early days, there wasn't much that hadn't be sourced from another action sport, aside from maybe all the huge bc jumps from Wind Up Films. You can still see it today, all these edits filmed on VX's and with fisheye lenses are inspired by skateboarding, Actually a lot of skiing trends come from skateboarding due to the cycle of skateboarding > snowboarding > skiing. There are definitely exceptions to that, but this post is already a wall of text.

What we've been ignoring is the heritage of our own sport though. Yeah a lot of it kind of sucked and wasn't fun, but there are little bits in there if you look that are really cool. Example: Ballet. You may immediately disagree but butters, presses, pretty much all the flatground tricks you see in edits from The Bunch people do are basically descendants of ballet, just with all the weird stuff taken from figure skating dropped.

Essentially, what I'm getting at is skiing will not be "real" until we kind of develop our own culture. Thats already happening but could definitely occur at a faster rate.

tl;dr: Skiing is real when we take our influences, but also add our own pieces instead of just copying.
 
13458095:w_skier said:
I'm not sure where to start with this but I think you are confusing clothing style and skiing style which are two really different things. Clothing style is pretty simple, its what people chose to wear and the only thing you need to do to "keep it real" there is wear what you want. It's entirely personal opinion, whether what you want to wear happens to be popular or obscure. It's not like its black and white either, I have a pair of baggy pants and a pair of skinny pants, not so I can be considered cool universally but because I like how both of them look. Essentially clothing style has nothing to do with skiing itself being real or not.

Skiing style is how you ski, what tricks you chose to do and how you move while doing them. Your skiing style is generally something you kind of develop as you learn, but if you are comfortable enough with skiing you can adjust it how you want. Everyone is different though, so its impossible to completely copy someones style without accidentally or purposely put your own touch on it.

Essentially, "keeping it real" is doing what you want and putting your own twist on things.

That said, I think skiing is not keeping it real. Skiing has arguably the longest and most widespread heritage of any action sport EVER. By the late 90's we had let FIS pretty much take complete control of the sport. FIS likes using the word "homologized" which means standardized so competitions could be fair. This is the equivalent of an action sport committing suicide. Because the FIS had almost complete control over anything "official" in the sport they were stifling anyone who disagreed with their vision (aka skiing = gymnastics or track otherwise your wrong). Before the internet if you weren't sanctioned by the FIS you didn't exist (the exception is Extreme Skiing which survived solely on Movies and Magazines)

So what skiing did is "rebel" by starting the freeskiing thing we all like by taking elements from all these other action sports that didn't have a governing body. If you look at something from the early days, there wasn't much that hadn't be sourced from another action sport, aside from maybe all the huge bc jumps from Wind Up Films. You can still see it today, all these edits filmed on VX's and with fisheye lenses are inspired by skateboarding, Actually a lot of skiing trends come from skateboarding due to the cycle of skateboarding > snowboarding > skiing. There are definitely exceptions to that, but this post is already a wall of text.

What we've been ignoring is the heritage of our own sport though. Yeah a lot of it kind of sucked and wasn't fun, but there are little bits in there if you look that are really cool. Example: Ballet. You may immediately disagree but butters, presses, pretty much all the flatground tricks you see in edits from The Bunch people do are basically descendants of ballet, just with all the weird stuff taken from figure skating dropped.

Essentially, what I'm getting at is skiing will not be "real" until we kind of develop our own culture. Thats already happening but could definitely occur at a faster rate.

tl;dr: Skiing is real when we take our influences, but also add our own pieces instead of just copying.
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wow I said essentially a lot
 
In my hood they say "pull the trigger on the wigger"

skiing is the only outlet for me to safely express my bi-racial origins as a caucasian male.

I know the streets because there aren't any sidewalks in suburbia
 
13458089:OregonDead said:
So tru. Although I will wear old ski pants out to a sporting event or to go hiking when it's cold enough. This past year I've also worn my ski helmet a few times when I was cutting widow makers out of the trees in my yard. For 'real'.
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Arborists unite!
 
The clothes, the attitude that comes from freeski is partly what makes everyone love the sport so much. I'm not saying thats the only thing that makes the sport likable but its def. part of it.
 
When you are skateboarding it is not extremely cold and snowing. The reason that people wear the things that they do while skiing is primarily to stay warm, and also style. Things like ski masks, snow pants, ski boots, and goggles are just not practical to be worn when you are not skiing. To skateboard, all that you need are street clothes, and a board, and the clothes that you wear skating can be worn anywhere and look normal.
 
13460187:b_rend said:
When you are skateboarding it is not extremely cold and snowing. The reason that people wear the things that they do while skiing is primarily to stay warm, and also style. Things like ski masks, snow pants, ski boots, and goggles are just not practical to be worn when you are not skiing. To skateboard, all that you need are street clothes, and a board, and the clothes that you wear skating can be worn anywhere and look normal.
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also, inb4 op says he wears his goggles and saga fanboi jacket all over the place
 
OP I really have to apologize to you- they were all out of "I'm a huge douchebag" jackets the last time I bought one.
 
Skiers wear different clothes to ski cause skiing requires different clothes (ex. facemask cause its cold out). You don't usually see a rock-climber runnin around town in his full harness and helmet for the same reason skiers don't wear all their ski gear in public
 
13460327:Daski said:
Skiers wear different clothes to ski cause skiing requires different clothes (ex. facemask cause its cold out). You don't usually see a rock-climber runnin around town in his full harness and helmet for the same reason skiers don't wear all their ski gear in public
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No I disagree. Yeah obviously you cant wear snow clothes in public 99% of the time but the whole style of peoples clothes can change drastically when they ski. Very few people dress with really baggy clothes in public but this is still a pretty popular NS style. Likewise there's a lot of people who don't rock the tighter more "hesh" look off the hill but do on the hill. I'd say it's different in snowboarding as for the most part as a lot of pros(not like competition riders but 32, 1817, etc.) skateboard off the hill and rock the same "tight" style.

I don't necesarily think this is a bad thing though. That's always been something I liked about skiing as there's so much freedom to dress and ski how you like.
 
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