Ski waxing advice

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So I was on the hunt for some ski waxing equipment and figured it's pretty ridiculous to pay 20 dollars for a "ski waxing brush" just because it's marketed for that specific application, when there are tons of other similar seeming brushes, meant for other use, 10x cheaper. So anyways..... I was wondering if it's fine to buy cheap brushes like these & still get the same results813628.png813629.png813630.png
 
topic:Cking96000 said:
So I was on the hunt for some ski waxing equipment and figured it's pretty ridiculous to pay 20 dollars for a "ski waxing brush" just because it's marketed for that specific application, when there are tons of other similar seeming brushes, meant for other use, 10x cheaper. So anyways..... I was wondering if it's fine to buy cheap brushes like these & still get the same resultsView attachment 813628View attachment 813629View attachment 813630
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Those brushes bristles are too long to remove wax from your bases. if you notice on ski waxing brushes the bristles are much shorter this is so they do not bend. Those brushes would do very little, and would be a waste of time (IMO).

Also, if you are not racing, brushes are not really necessary. However, if you want to get into taking care of your equipment in general, then why not do it right?

A brass, horse hair, and nylon brushes will all last you a long time.

Here is a good short read on brushes.
http://www.tokous.com/Manuals/Brushing Guidelines.pdf

Hope that helps, if you have more questions, hit us up with a message.
 
13630879:BoardSideDown said:
Those brushes bristles are too long to remove wax from your bases. if you notice on ski waxing brushes the bristles are much shorter this is so they do not bend. Those brushes would do very little, and would be a waste of time (IMO).

Also, if you are not racing, brushes are not really necessary. However, if you want to get into taking care of your equipment in general, then why not do it right?

A brass, horse hair, and nylon brushes will all last you a long time.

Here is a good short read on brushes.
http://www.tokous.com/Manuals/Brushing Guidelines.pdf

Hope that helps, if you have more questions, hit us up with a message.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the point of brushing isn't to remove wax but to put the structure in the base correct? That being said I found that scotchbrite does the trick well.
 
13630882:CabbyArrant said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but the point of brushing isn't to remove wax but to put the structure in the base correct? That being said I found that scotchbrite does the trick well.
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Stone grinds are what add structure to your bases, brass brushes in the past were used to add structure, but now they are mainly used to open up your bases to absorb the additives within the wax. now that we have base grinders those are what truly add structure to your skis.

Brushes do create fine lines (or channels) on top of your bases to combat the friction and break down water droplets. You still can use brass brushes to help create some structure, but base grinds are the best.

Definitely give that article a read, its only a page and has a lot of useful information.
 
You could use that brass or horse hair, but the problem is the bristles are too long and the grouping is not tight enough. Better than nothing in a pinch, but really the best brushes for skis are brushes designed for the job. How much you spend on skis? Skiing in general? Now is not time to get cheap with brushes.

 
BTW, brushing pre-waxing and post waxing is not just for racing! I'm so tired of hearing that! If you want a ski that runs you need to wax on a regular basis. If you don't brush well you are wasting your time to wax. Any wax left on the base surface is going to slow the ski.
 
i use the brushes just to get the gunk out of the base, like old wax or little pieces of dirt. I bought a special waxing brush, and a cheep brass brush from the hardware store, and both seem to work just fine. and to properly care for your gear you might want to wax after 1 week of skiing
 
13630879:BoardSideDown said:
Those brushes bristles are too long to remove wax from your bases. if you notice on ski waxing brushes the bristles are much shorter this is so they do not bend. Those brushes would do very little, and would be a waste of time (IMO).

Also, if you are not racing, brushes are not really necessary. However, if you want to get into taking care of your equipment in general, then why not do it right?

A brass, horse hair, and nylon brushes will all last you a long time.

Here is a good short read on brushes.
http://www.tokous.com/Manuals/Brushing Guidelines.pdf

Hope that helps, if you have more questions, hit us up with a message.
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13630949:DominatorJacques said:
BTW, brushing pre-waxing and post waxing is not just for racing! I'm so tired of hearing that! If you want a ski that runs you need to wax on a regular basis. If you don't brush well you are wasting your time to wax. Any wax left on the base surface is going to slow the ski.
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Is there a brush you'd recommend that can do it all, or do you really need a few brushes to get the job done?
 
13630949:DominatorJacques said:
BTW, brushing pre-waxing and post waxing is not just for racing! I'm so tired of hearing that!
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I said brushing is not necessary when your not racing because it sounds like he is not in the position to buy a whole brush set up. Brushing is definitely not only for racing. If your strapped for cash you do not need to brush.

13631070:Cking96000 said:
Is there a brush you'd recommend that can do it all, or do you really need a few brushes to get the job done?
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I'd recommend brass and horse hair to start off then get a nylon. If you only want one, choose if you want to pre wax brush (brass brush) or if you want to post wax brush (horse hair & nylon). It's really up to you. Id go with brass though. Because post scrape on a normal day of riding, excess wax will rub off after a run or two on the mountain.
 
I like a steel brush for all purpose waxing. Cleans and opens up the base well before waxing. Strips wax faster than anything else but it definitely won't get all the wax off your ski.
 
13631070:Cking96000 said:
Is there a brush you'd recommend that can do it all, or do you really need a few brushes to get the job done?
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13631133:powderwhor said:
I like a steel brush for all purpose waxing. Cleans and opens up the base well before waxing. Strips wax faster than anything else but it definitely won't get all the wax off your ski.
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Yes, if you only have one brush it should be a fine brass.

As Powder says a steel (go soft stainless) is also a fine choice.

Don't follow any advice that says skiing will brush out the wax!

Brushing only take a bit of time and it's time well spent.

It's wax IN the base and NOT on the base that make good glide and speed.

If you did not watch my video above you should. It's the best free lesson you will ever have.

Take care and brush on!
 
Well it doesn't make much of a difference because you aren't racing but I only use brushes to occasionally clean my bases up a bit.
 
13631517:Deepskier said:
Well it doesn't make much of a difference because you aren't racing but I only use brushes to occasionally clean my bases up a bit.
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Racing makes no difference from freeskiing. Everyone benefits from good glide.

Say you need speed to hit a jump for example.

Yes a brush is always used to 'clean' a base prior to waxing.

Sometimes that's not enough though. When dirt, pollen, sap, diesel soot, and lift grease etc. get into the base, the base becomes very slow. Wax will not go into the base then. This is very important for spring type conditions or anytime during snow melt.

Some hot scrape a ski to clean it, but it is a waste of wax and too much work.

I have found Swix Glide Wax Cleaner to be the best thing to clean the ski base prior to waxing if you have been in any dirty snow and sometimes even if you have not.

Here is how to do it.

This is NOT a wax remover! It will NOT dry your base.

 
13631590:DominatorJacques said:
Racing makes no difference from freeskiing. Everyone benefits from good glide.

Say you need speed to hit a jump for example.
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Yes you need speed but cleaning your bases every time you ski with 20 different brushes in a certain order with just the right wax to shave fractions of a second off your time is not a need of a freeskier if you need more speed wax once in a while give it a clean or just tuck or drop in from higher up or dont check.
 
13631606:Deepskier said:
Yes you need speed but cleaning your bases every time you ski with 20 different brushes in a certain order with just the right wax to shave fractions of a second off your time is not a need of a freeskier if you need more speed wax once in a while give it a clean or just tuck or drop in from higher up or dont check.
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Well as I said above if you only can get one brush I say brass. You can use that one before and after waxing.

Absolutely aerodynamics is always a factor. Tuck and huck!

I have lots of brushes, yet one does not need to have them all.

I don't race, but my customers and I like skis that glide well. We don't like to be the ones who are sucking wind. We like to haul the mail even when things get flat.

I also don't weigh much so if a skier is light all this brushing and waxing is very important.

20 brushes. You strechin' it a bit there.

It's not about shaving a fraction of a second, it's about getting speed when ever I need it or want it. I hate sucking wind!
 
13631621:DominatorJacques said:
Well as I said above if you only can get one brush I say brass. You can use that one before and after waxing.

Absolutely aerodynamics is always a factor. Tuck and huck!

I have lots of brushes, yet one does not need to have them all.

I don't race, but my customers and I like skis that glide well. We don't like to be the ones who are sucking wind. We like to haul the mail even when things get flat.

I also don't weigh much so if a skier is light all this brushing and waxing is very important.

20 brushes. You strechin' it a bit there.

It's not about shaving a fraction of a second, it's about getting speed when ever I need it or want it. I hate sucking wind!
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Iaght I get it but to me personally its not worth the money or the time usually, but sometimes it is, but i usually just borrow shit from the racers if i don't have it in my kit and need it.
 
13631623:Deepskier said:
Iaght I get it but to me personally its not worth the money or the time usually, but sometimes it is, but i usually just borrow shit from the racers if i don't have it in my kit and need it.
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Nothing wrong with that! Hood Crew Yo!
 
13631625:DominatorJacques said:
Nothing wrong with that! Hood Crew Yo!
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Haha i have so many hood crew stickers on my shit some of the littler kids at my mountain thought i was in hood crew lol
 
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