Ski Recommendations for Heavy, Intermediate Skier

[Skibro67676]

Hi, I’m an intermediate skier and am 185cm and 230lbs (I’m heavy because of weight lifting ).

I mostly do groomed runs, these often end up with a lot of crud because I end up staying late. I also do some park skiing, mostly jumps and some boxes here and there but slowly want to get into rails once my box game is good. I do want to explore other portions of the mountain as I get better, trees and other off piste stuff. I live on the Canadian west coast and mostly ski local mountains.

As I do like hitting side hits, the park and being playful in general but also like carving groomers I'd say I'm kind of looking for a compromise between these things. I'm guessing I'll have to go quite a bit stiffer as I am a lot heavier than the average skier?

What Skis would you guys recommend I look at?

 

[KilaTsunami]

I recommend Nomads by Icelantic, expensive but I think it’s exactly what you’d like.

 

[Skibro67676]

Hi, I’m an intermediate skier and am 185cm and 230lbs (I’m heavy because of weight lifting ).

I mostly do groomed runs, these often end up with a lot of crud because I end up staying late. I also do some park skiing, mostly jumps and some boxes here and there but slowly want to get into rails once my box game is good. I do want to explore other portions of the mountain as I get better, trees and other off piste stuff. I live on the Canadian west coast and mostly ski local mountains.

As I do like hitting side hits, the park and being playful in general but also like carving groomers I'd say I'm kind of looking for a compromise between these things. I'm guessing I'll have to go quite a bit stiffer as I am a lot heavier than the average skier?

What Skis would you guys recommend I look at?

Just to expand on what I do, currently doing 80% groomers, 20% park and want to start doing other off piste things as I said

 

[animator]

Hi, I’m an intermediate skier and am 185cm and 230lbs (I’m heavy because of weight lifting ).

I mostly do groomed runs, these often end up with a lot of crud because I end up staying late. I also do some park skiing, mostly jumps and some boxes here and there but slowly want to get into rails once my box game is good. I do want to explore other portions of the mountain as I get better, trees and other off piste stuff. I live on the Canadian west coast and mostly ski local mountains.

As I do like hitting side hits, the park and being playful in general but also like carving groomers I'd say I'm kind of looking for a compromise between these things. I'm guessing I'll have to go quite a bit stiffer as I am a lot heavier than the average skier?

What Skis would you guys recommend I look at?

so to clarify: west coast, tall and heavy, looking for skis that are capable in shitty conditions, beginning to explore more off-piste terrain and progress in the park?

you’ll want something relatively stiff and snappy with a directional twin shape. I would be looking at the following for these purposes:

moment Wildcat 101: [tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] could tell you more but this line (the Wildcat line) in my opinion, is the standard in which all “playful chargers” should be compared to. The thing fucking rails on groomers, it’s balanced in the air, it’s strong in chop and chunder, and it’s playful enough to ski in the park.

Faction Prodigy 2.0: this ski is recommended a lot for a lot of different people, because it works. I ski one as my park ski because it’s supportive and has a lot of energy. It’s got really good edgehold which I personally think is an overlooked quality in an all mountain ski, and it’s overall capable in just about any conditions other than really deep fresh snow. The 3.0 could be an option for you too, but it may be a bit much to throw around in the park at first.

these recommendations are based on my experiences as someone who’s 182cm and 200 pounds. If you can get your hands on the Wildcat, do it. The thing is unbelievable.

 

[HomerPimpin]

so to clarify: west coast, tall and heavy, looking for skis that are capable in shitty conditions, beginning to explore more off-piste terrain and progress in the park?

you’ll want something relatively stiff and snappy with a directional twin shape. I would be looking at the following for these purposes:

moment Wildcat 101: [tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] could tell you more but this line (the Wildcat line) in my opinion, is the standard in which all “playful chargers” should be compared to. The thing fucking rails on groomers, it’s balanced in the air, it’s strong in chop and chunder, and it’s playful enough to ski in the park.

Faction Prodigy 2.0: this ski is recommended a lot for a lot of different people, because it works. I ski one as my park ski because it’s supportive and has a lot of energy. It’s got really good edgehold which I personally think is an overlooked quality in an all mountain ski, and it’s overall capable in just about any conditions other than really deep fresh snow. The 3.0 could be an option for you too, but it may be a bit much to throw around in the park at first.

these recommendations are based on my experiences as someone who’s 182cm and 200 pounds. If you can get your hands on the Wildcat, do it. The thing is unbelievable.

not sure if this is a relevant question to ask, but how would you say the wildcats compare to on3p’s jeffrey’s? i’m thinking of getting one of the two for my next pair of skis and i’ve heard a lot of people say jeffrey’s rip, but haven’t heard a lot about any moment skis. hoping i can get my hands on a pair

 

[hot.pocket]

not sure if this is a relevant question to ask, but how would you say the wildcats compare to on3p’s jeffrey’s? i’m thinking of getting one of the two for my next pair of skis and i’ve heard a lot of people say jeffrey’s rip, but haven’t heard a lot about any moment skis. hoping i can get my hands on a pair

In general the Jeffrey and the Wildcat have a lot of design characteristics that they share. The main differences will be that the Wildcat 101 is lighter (not hyper touring ski light, but lighter) and poppier / more playful. The Jeffrey will be heavier / damper, more composed in chop / chargier.

I think you'd be happy on either model.

 

[HomerPimpin]

In general the Jeffrey and the Wildcat have a lot of design characteristics that they share. The main differences will be that the Wildcat 101 is lighter (not hyper touring ski light, but lighter) and poppier / more playful. The Jeffrey will be heavier / damper, more composed in chop / chargier.

I think you'd be happy on either model.

interesting, looks like i might have to get both. not at once of course, my bank account would cry

 

[animator]

interesting, looks like i might have to get both. not at once of course, my bank account would cry

I found personally that the Wildcat 101 was probably the most composed, stable twin I’ve been on out of the category. Comparing the Sego Big Horn, ON3P Jeffrey and the Wildcat series, the Wildcat won in the stability category for me. Jeffrey won in versatility, and Big Horn won in float/deep snow prowess. I’ve owned all 3 and I think the Moments were my favorite overall for my ski style. There’s a reason you see these 3 skis recommended a lot, it’s because they’re all top-tier quality and worth every penny.

 

[hot.pocket]

interesting, looks like i might have to get both. not at once of course, my bank account would cry

I would diversify, grab one in the 101 width and another in a wider width for pow / soft snow.

I found personally that the Wildcat 101 was probably the most composed, stable twin I’ve been on out of the category. Comparing the Sego Big Horn, ON3P Jeffrey and the Wildcat series, the Wildcat won in the stability category for me. Jeffrey won in versatility, and Big Horn won in float/deep snow prowess. I’ve owned all 3 and I think the Moments were my favorite overall for my ski style. There’s a reason you see these 3 skis recommended a lot, it’s because they’re all top-tier quality and worth every penny.

All great info!

 

[Skibro67676]

Any opinions on the Fischer Range 102 FR in comparison to the skis mentioned?

 

[animator]

Any opinions on the Fischer Range 102 FR in comparison to the skis mentioned?

Ranger is gonna be more locked in to turns than any of these, it’s a very directional shape despite what people think. There’s a -10cm setback on the sidecut and it skis very much like a traditional directional ski. You can move the mount forward but I dislike how it skis anywhere except for the recommended line. It also has metal which makes it feel kind of dead IMO. Great edgehold, better than any of the 3 that I mentioned but the trade offs aren’t worth it IMO, it doesn’t release easily enough and it’s not playful enough (that’s my opinion, based on my ski style. It’s not fact). If you like to rail carves and want a bit of float it works great, it’s actually a great ski for the east coast despite what people will say about the width. If you like to play around, ski switch and boost shit, there are better options (Big Horn, Jeffrey, Wildcat).

 

[anders_a]

Any opinions on the Fischer Range 102 FR in comparison to the skis mentioned?

102 FR is awesome for big guys! (2019-2022)

both 184 and 191cm are awesome! one of my favorite skis, its also available in pink!

I'm 6'3 and 240-242lbs,

you also need to look at CT 1.0 and 2.0 2021

soft skis are only good for urban/indoor.

 

[anders_a]

Ranger is gonna be more locked in to turns than any of these, it’s a very directional shape despite what people think. There’s a -10cm setback on the sidecut and it skis very much like a traditional directional ski. You can move the mount forward but I dislike how it skis anywhere except for the recommended line. It also has metal which makes it feel kind of dead IMO. Great edgehold, better than any of the 3 that I mentioned but the trade offs aren’t worth it IMO, it doesn’t release easily enough and it’s not playful enough (that’s my opinion, based on my ski style. It’s not fact). If you like to rail carves and want a bit of float it works great, it’s actually a great ski for the east coast despite what people will say about the width. If you like to play around, ski switch and boost shit, there are better options (Big Horn, Jeffrey, Wildcat).

your a fairly light dude though, even my gf loves it "because it has energy" you can do jump carves, just load the ski up.

tail release is super duper easy on any length, I skied 176.177, 184, 191 fischer 102 FR. even skied it with a 1/3 tune, still easy to release tail.