Ski companies using edges without anchors

[AKhoodrat]

So I bought a brand new pair of last years amplids rockwells, and first off they are a super fun, versatile ski but they got trashed pretty quickly and are now missing over a foot of edge. when the edges pulled out it was quite unnerving to learn amplid uses edges without real anchors. Rather, their anchors consist of a uniform metal strip, there is no individual anchors or "teeth". I don't understand why they would do, it may save a little bit of money, but that still doesn't seem worth it. Is there some other reason they do this, it seems this is pretty obvious that edge pull outs would be more common with this construction. And do any other compiles do this?

 

[Hideyamama]

Buy J skis most durable ski on the industrie with 2mm edge last for ever

And for the other compagnies it's call capitalisim

 

[NinetyFour]

Can you post a picture?

 

[RudyGarmisch]

Buy J skis most durable ski on the industrie with 2mm edge last for ever

And for the other compagnies it's call capitalisim

ON3P and Kitten Factory also use the same 2.5mm edge.

 

[supersquid]

Buy J skis most durable ski on the industrie with 2mm edge last for ever

And for the other compagnies it's call capitalisim

On3p skis use 2.5 mm edges

 

[qazwsxedc34]

On3p skis use 2.5 mm edges

K2 uses 3.5mm edges.

 

[Flyingnugget]

On3p skis use 2.5 mm edges

so does Armada

 

[B.Quincy]

Its amplids what do you expect....

 

[supersquid]

My point is there are skis with bigger edges than 2 mm and 3.5 seems to big cause there's only two edge makers in the world and the biggest edge there is was 2.5 im pretty sure

 

[Burgy]

K2 uses 3.5mm edges.

i saw on some old K2 skis, that it said they use 3.5mm... do they still do this?... i thought the industry thickest was 2.5?

 

[iggyskier]

i saw on some old K2 skis, that it said they use 3.5mm... do they still do this?... i thought the industry thickest was 2.5?

A lot of people confuse thickness with width. Very few brands are using edges over 2mm thick (about 1.3mm thick base material), though you can get a 2mm thick edge that is 2.5mm wide. So to sound more impressive, they just list the edge width and leave out the thickness.

And then there are other brands that literally don't know the materials they are using or how a ski is constructed and list the edge widths as thinner than the base material, or incorrectly as equal to the base material, and a bunch of other funny stuff.

As for the ski edges without teeth...the thinking behind it is that the edge is more solid throughout the ski and thus less susceptible to edge cracks. The bad part is that the design relies completely on the surface bond on the ski edge for edge retention. Once it fails, it fails fast. With a typical ski edge with edge teeth, the gaps in the teeth allow for materials to be pressed in those spaces, which allows for not only a surface bond on the surface of the edge, but a physical bond to keep the edge in the ski.

 

[.lencon]

What you need to understand is ON3P uses 2.5mm by 2.5mm thick edges. Same with Kitten Factory, J skis, and Batalla. That's pretty much it. The next best thing would be like Icelantic or Moment with 2.2mm by 2.2mm thick edges. Companies like K2 use the 3.5mm edges as a marketing kind of. Their edges are 3.5mm by 1.5mm. So that 3.5 part is nice but the 1.5 part is weak and it doesn't really make sense to me, hence the marketing. Anyone who knows anythjng about skis and ski edges knows to contact the manufacture and see if the ski edges really are 2.5mm by 2.5mm instead of the company saying "3.5mm edges". Most think they are the thickest but there's a catch.

 

[Burgy]

A lot of people confuse thickness with width. Very few brands are using edges over 2mm thick (about 1.3mm thick base material), though you can get a 2mm thick edge that is 2.5mm wide. So to sound more impressive, they just list the edge width and leave out the thickness.

And then there are other brands that literally don't know the materials they are using or how a ski is constructed and list the edge widths as thinner than the base material, or incorrectly as equal to the base material, and a bunch of other funny stuff.

As for the ski edges without teeth...the thinking behind it is that the edge is more solid throughout the ski and thus less susceptible to edge cracks. The bad part is that the design relies completely on the surface bond on the ski edge for edge retention. Once it fails, it fails fast. With a typical ski edge with edge teeth, the gaps in the teeth allow for materials to be pressed in those spaces, which allows for not only a surface bond on the surface of the edge, but a physical bond to keep the edge in the ski.

thanks man +k

 

[qazwsxedc34]

A lot of people confuse thickness with width. Very few brands are using edges over 2mm thick (about 1.3mm thick base material), though you can get a 2mm thick edge that is 2.5mm wide. So to sound more impressive, they just list the edge width and leave out the thickness.

And then there are other brands that literally don't know the materials they are using or how a ski is constructed and list the edge widths as thinner than the base material, or incorrectly as equal to the base material, and a bunch of other funny stuff.

As for the ski edges without teeth...the thinking behind it is that the edge is more solid throughout the ski and thus less susceptible to edge cracks. The bad part is that the design relies completely on the surface bond on the ski edge for edge retention. Once it fails, it fails fast. With a typical ski edge with edge teeth, the gaps in the teeth allow for materials to be pressed in those spaces, which allows for not only a surface bond on the surface of the edge, but a physical bond to keep the edge in the ski.

K2 is always sneaky