OOOOKKK.... well heres what i know. I talked to Schmuk a little while ago, the Line Rep, and he told me about a little somthing called PROTOTYPES!!! Turns out that Pollard is still testing out prototypes for the Sir Francis Bacons. Yes they are suuuper soft, quite pssibly softer than the invader OR not..... the final product is not finished and they havent started manufacturing them yet because pollard is still testing the skis. So therefore everything you are hearing on thsi site is just RUMORS!!!! nothing is 100% on them yet except for the topsheet... They should, however, be all finished and on the market by november but no sooner than that. The skis are le incredible to look at and no doubt sickler to ski, but until the... WAIT!!!!