Simon Dumont terrible crash in 2005 back story.

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So do you guys remember that crazy video of Simon Dumont getting towed in by a snowmobile to hit that huge kicker at Park City? That one where he over shot by like 100 feet and blew his ankles pretty much. Well I found out yesterday that the snowmobile guy who’s fault it was, and who towed him in, IS MY GIRLFRIENDS DAD. Hahahahahah how the hell can I trust this guy now? He almost killed my favorite skier. Lol and on top of that he’s been trying to get me to go snowmobiling for a while now. Anyway just thought it was a funny story because I’ve watched that video hundreds of times and it’s all this guys fault. Any tips on how to cope with this will help. Much love. Oh and if you can add the link to the video on this thread for people to watch it that’d be nice. Pray for snow.
 
[VIDEO]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/818189/State-Farm-Presents--Looking-Back-w--Simon-Dumont[/VIDEO]
 
I'm not sure that's something I'd brag about if I were him. Maybe he's trying to tell you he's got you by the balls. Run away and leave his sweet princess alone or get thrown off a cliff.

That said snowmobiling is fun, I'd still prolly go with him. Just don't let him kill you.
 
Hey let's play a game called guess how fast to tow me into this huge jump. This Sport has come a long way.
 
i don't think only one person was responsible for that fuck up. goofy ass jump with a downhill sled tow in... that's a few people's faults haha
 
also dumont was kinda crazy back then. ive heard some top shelf skiers talk in mystified tones about his hitting big new jumps fearlessly. so i don't have a hard time imagining him saying okay let's do it on this sketch-ass setup and everyone else being like okay sure

what i wanna know is, if he hadn't gotten hurt here, would he have possibly been involved with hitting chad's with jon and tanner that year?
 
13875370:SofaKingSick said:
also dumont was kinda crazy back then. ive heard some top shelf skiers talk in mystified tones about his hitting big new jumps fearlessly. so i don't have a hard time imagining him saying okay let's do it on this sketch-ass setup and everyone else being like okay sure

what i wanna know is, if he hadn't gotten hurt here, would he have possibly been involved with hitting chad's with jon and tanner that year?
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i feel like it really flies under the radar how insane vintage Dumont was. the quarterpipe air. the broken pipe segment. he was kind of a maniac.
 
Yo watch this flick from the OG Riley Poor and you will see how hard Simon used to go. The shit he was doing 15 years ago was so gnarly and ahead of his time.
https://vimeo.com/14951104

Overall, this is a sweet movie that I feel like no one knows about. Tons of awesome history in this.
 
13875403:Park_Ranger said:
Yo watch this flick from the OG Riley Poor and you will see how hard Simon used to go. The shit he was doing 15 years ago was so gnarly and ahead of his time.
https://vimeo.com/14951104

Overall, this is a sweet movie that I feel like no one knows about. Tons of awesome history in this.
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This was just skiing for me not history... I feel old.
 
13875403:Park_Ranger said:
Yo watch this flick from the OG Riley Poor and you will see how hard Simon used to go. The shit he was doing 15 years ago was so gnarly and ahead of his time.
https://vimeo.com/14951104

Overall, this is a sweet movie that I feel like no one knows about. Tons of awesome history in this.
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I forgot how sick all the old redbull helmets looked.
 
13875403:Park_Ranger said:
Yo watch this flick from the OG Riley Poor and you will see how hard Simon used to go. The shit he was doing 15 years ago was so gnarly and ahead of his time.
https://vimeo.com/14951104

Overall, this is a sweet movie that I feel like no one knows about. Tons of awesome history in this.
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a lot of NSers need to watch this. Simon gets a really bad rap for his outward expression of competitiveness, and Tanner gets revered for being so chill and "not caring" about the competition, but it's pretty apparent that they are both incredibly competitive people. what differs is how they expressed it. Dumont and Tanner hall changed the game; but Dumont doesn't get nearly as much credit at Tanner does for it. at least from the younger population. these are the two guys that got me into freestyle skiing.
 
its the way dumont presented him self to the general public. out of the couple times ive actually met dumont it seemed like he was forced to be in the situations he was. example salomon jib accademy at my home hill... it was a solid 15-20 degrees out and a blue bird day... simon came late. barley skied with any kids and was heard complaing during lunch that it was too cold and the pipe was awful( our pipe does suck you could hand carve a better pipe) but in my old age. i look back and have a feeling he was really pushed to go to events he didnt even want to go to by his sponsors, example jib accademy, sponsors wanted that PR but it back fires when the athlete has no good things to say and is just a crabby prick.. this is why i think he has bad reputation to most people.. with that being said i never met tanner when he was younger, so im not entirley sure how he was as person. but i can confirm that if these two were not a part of the sport at the time they were it would be a whole differnt park scene right now. both tanner and simon carved the way for a lot of monumental stuff to happen.
 
13875509:paulbunyan said:
its the way dumont presented him self to the general public. out of the couple times ive actually met dumont it seemed like he was forced to be in the situations he was. example salomon jib accademy at my home hill... it was a solid 15-20 degrees out and a blue bird day... simon came late. barley skied with any kids and was heard complaing during lunch that it was too cold and the pipe was awful( our pipe does suck you could hand carve a better pipe) but in my old age. i look back and have a feeling he was really pushed to go to events he didnt even want to go to by his sponsors, example jib accademy, sponsors wanted that PR but it back fires when the athlete has no good things to say and is just a crabby prick.. this is why i think he has bad reputation to most people.. with that being said i never met tanner when he was younger, so im not entirley sure how he was as person. but i can confirm that if these two were not a part of the sport at the time they were it would be a whole differnt park scene right now. both tanner and simon carved the way for a lot of monumental stuff to happen.
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You made like 10 different points, but you're not wrong.
 
13875509:paulbunyan said:
its the way dumont presented him self to the general public. out of the couple times ive actually met dumont it seemed like he was forced to be in the situations he was. example salomon jib accademy at my home hill... it was a solid 15-20 degrees out and a blue bird day... simon came late. barley skied with any kids and was heard complaing during lunch that it was too cold and the pipe was awful( our pipe does suck you could hand carve a better pipe) but in my old age. i look back and have a feeling he was really pushed to go to events he didnt even want to go to by his sponsors, example jib accademy, sponsors wanted that PR but it back fires when the athlete has no good things to say and is just a crabby prick.. this is why i think he has bad reputation to most people.. with that being said i never met tanner when he was younger, so im not entirley sure how he was as person. but i can confirm that if these two were not a part of the sport at the time they were it would be a whole differnt park scene right now. both tanner and simon carved the way for a lot of monumental stuff to happen.
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it's this right here. ive never met simon and im sure he's an okay dude but i can't tell you how many times ive heard stories like this^ over the years, from the sounds of it he just isnt as nice or likable as some people

no denying his skills and his contributions to skiing though, and while i do agree with whoever said he doesnt seem to get quite as much recognition as he deserves, my experience has been that non-NSers knew about him as much as any other skier, tanner included. which was surprising to me, but slumdog illionaire was a hit i guess haha
 
13875515:SofaKingSick said:
my experience has been that non-NSers knew about him as much as any other skier, tanner included. which was surprising to me, but slumdog illionaire was a hit i guess haha
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This is true. He was kind of the Shaun White of our sport for a while.

He had a more clean cut/comp jock image when compared to Tanner, so he got to be the poster boy.
 
I was there that day he overshot and it's probably not fair to put the blame solely on the sled driver. We were testing speed for quite a while that morning, trying to figure out what seemed like the right speed, and it certainly appeared obvious to me the speed Simon was asking for was quite a bit faster than everyone else. That being said, a lot of the speed was generating from slinging yourself off the tow rope and speeds tended to vary with each tow/slingshot. It wasn't the safest jump ever built, but it sure was a fun one once you got the speed dialed. Kudos to Simon for stepping up and hitting it first, as no one else was very motivated to. And bigger kudos for him for standing up on his own after taking that fall. And maybe kudos to PCMR for giving us the green light to hit that jump after the initial overshoot?
 
13875521:dylhole said:
I was there that day he overshot and it's probably not fair to put the blame solely on the sled driver. We were testing speed for quite a while that morning, trying to figure out what seemed like the right speed, and it certainly appeared obvious to me the speed Simon was asking for was quite a bit faster than everyone else. That being said, a lot of the speed was generating from slinging yourself off the tow rope and speeds tended to vary with each tow/slingshot. It wasn't the safest jump ever built, but it sure was a fun one once you got the speed dialed. Kudos to Simon for stepping up and hitting it first, as no one else was very motivated to. And bigger kudos for him for standing up on his own after taking that fall. And maybe kudos to PCMR for giving us the green light to hit that jump after the initial overshoot?
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That's because Jim Mangn had to get the shot and get his movie made. That really worked out well for him...
 
13875531:SkiBum. said:
That's because Jim Mangn had to get the shot and get his movie made. That really worked out well for him...
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13875536:SofaKingSick said:
(larry king voice) expand on that
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Jim Mangan was the park manager back in the mid 2000's at Park City. He had an inflated budget and ego and some sort of big movie dream. So he did the I ride Park city movie and pulled out all the tricks. There was movie crews, helicopters, cable cams on kings crown and pipe, jumps and crazy set ups over mine buildings. All this chaos for this movie he wanted.

Well the movie flopped pretty much. There were pallets of DVDs around. Couldn't even give them away. They tried every trick in the book to sell them or give them away. Pretty sure they all ended up in dumpster or shot as skeet.

Well Mangan got the ax. Or quit. Or both. But there are still pictures and videos of some crazy jumps and shit that went on that last year.
 
13875548:SkiBum. said:
Jim Mangan was the park manager back in the mid 2000's at Park City. He had an inflated budget and ego and some sort of big movie dream. So he did the I ride Park city movie and pulled out all the tricks. There was movie crews, helicopters, cable cams on kings crown and pipe, jumps and crazy set ups over mine buildings. All this chaos for this movie he wanted.

Well the movie flopped pretty much. There were pallets of DVDs around. Couldn't even give them away. They tried every trick in the book to sell them or give them away. Pretty sure they all ended up in dumpster or shot as skeet.

Well Mangan got the ax. Or quit. Or both. But there are still pictures and videos of some crazy jumps and shit that went on that last year.
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interesting. thanks for the great answer
 
13875548:SkiBum. said:
Jim Mangan was the park manager back in the mid 2000's at Park City. He had an inflated budget and ego and some sort of big movie dream. So he did the I ride Park city movie and pulled out all the tricks. There was movie crews, helicopters, cable cams on kings crown and pipe, jumps and crazy set ups over mine buildings. All this chaos for this movie he wanted.

Well the movie flopped pretty much. There were pallets of DVDs around. Couldn't even give them away. They tried every trick in the book to sell them or give them away. Pretty sure they all ended up in dumpster or shot as skeet.

Well Mangan got the ax. Or quit. Or both. But there are still pictures and videos of some crazy jumps and shit that went on that last year.
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Why didn't anyone buy the movie? It sounds like the production resources were first class, big name riders, big set ups... what went wrong?

Do you know if there is any footage anywhere?

I had no idea that people actually sessioned that jump after Simon almost died on it... did they also hit it with a tow in?
 
13875555:Park_Ranger said:
Why didn't anyone buy the movie? It sounds like the production resources were first class, big name riders, big set ups... what went wrong?

Do you know if there is any footage anywhere?

I had no idea that people actually sessioned that jump after Simon almost died on it... did they also hit it with a tow in?
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Not 100% sure the reason, that was a while ago. Thinking back right now. I want to say by the time it came out it took a while and was already a bit dated. I don't remember how it was pushed or marketed. It just didn't make a splash how it was maybe thought too. The dude above that was there or filming could maybe remember more then me. If you google it you may find it to watch on like YouTube or somewhere.
 
13875531:SkiBum. said:
That's because Jim Mangn had to get the shot and get his movie made. That really worked out well for him...
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I'm also pretty sure this was a few years before the I Ride Park City theme started. And Mangon wasn't there that morning if I remember correctly, nor did anyone from marketing or PCMR try to talk us into hitting it after the crash. I was just ambitious (dumb?) enough to get another snowmobile driver to give me some speed tests and somehow figured out the right speed and got a few laps on it before the lifts started spinning. Mangon did a good job of putting Park City on the map as far as terrain parks go, and it was plenty common to build jumps that weren't necessarily the safest back then. Look back at some of the jumps Mike Wilson drummed up and this would look like a walk in the park. I think there is some footage of trickery being done on this in one of Off Trail's movies and an old TGR movie too?
 
13875555:Park_Ranger said:
Why didn't anyone buy the movie? It sounds like the production resources were first class, big name riders, big set ups... what went wrong?

Do you know if there is any footage anywhere?

I had no idea that people actually sessioned that jump after Simon almost died on it... did they also hit it with a tow in?
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Heres the trailer, gives you an idea of what the movie was like for sure

[video]https://vimeo.com/1088992[/video]

But, this is the movie I think the dumont jump was in, this is from 2006

 
13875578:dylhole said:
I'm also pretty sure this was a few years before the I Ride Park City theme started. And Mangon wasn't there that morning if I remember correctly, nor did anyone from marketing or PCMR try to talk us into hitting it after the crash. I was just ambitious (dumb?) enough to get another snowmobile driver to give me some speed tests and somehow figured out the right speed and got a few laps on it before the lifts started spinning. Mangon did a good job of putting Park City on the map as far as terrain parks go, and it was plenty common to build jumps that weren't necessarily the safest back then. Look back at some of the jumps Mike Wilson drummed up and this would look like a walk in the park. I think there is some footage of trickery being done on this in one of Off Trail's movies and an old TGR movie too?
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I always figured Dumont's overshoot was a result of you and Cooley (I think?) coming up short and bouncing halfway down the landing a few times. I gotta go dig up that segment. What was that in, Corduroy or something? That's insane that you decided to go for it after Dumont got wrecked.
 
13875403:Park_Ranger said:
Yo watch this flick from the OG Riley Poor and you will see how hard Simon used to go. The shit he was doing 15 years ago was so gnarly and ahead of his time.
https://vimeo.com/14951104

Overall, this is a sweet movie that I feel like no one knows about. Tons of awesome history in this.
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This was one of the major reasons I got into park skiing and became a dumont fan boy. So glad someone else had the same reaction to it.
 
13875623:eheath said:
Heres the trailer, gives you an idea of what the movie was like for sure

[video]https://vimeo.com/1088992[/video]
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Nice find. That was an interesting trailer - the intro had such a low budget feel to it, you could barley read the graphics. The outro was so weird and random, and also had a very cheap feel to it. I expected the production to have the same feel, but was surprised to see some pretty clean shots... especially for the time. Some of those camera angles were actually super dope haha. I guess I still don't understand why the movie didn't take off.

Its dope how they set stuff up outside of the park - Tree jibs, etc. It would be sweet to see a resort produce an all mountain film, shot all over the property.
 
13875516:Park_Ranger said:
This is true. He was kind of the Shaun White of our sport for a while.

He had a more clean cut/comp jock image when compared to Tanner, so he got to be the poster boy.
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He never wore tight pants though.
 
13875378:BenWhit said:
i feel like it really flies under the radar how insane vintage Dumont was. the quarterpipe air. the broken pipe segment. he was kind of a maniac.
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I feel the same way. He was going kind of really huge at the time. Kind of comparable to Candide in some ways just not as calculated... oh wait never mind Candide almost died too. Seems like in the earlier days of park guys were really pushing and finding out what was really possible on skis. It's a different sport now, so calculated and whatnot.
 
Just another Dumont anecdote:

In the summer of 2003 we had a friendly round robin soccer tournament with four regional high schools and during one of the games I noticed this kid on the opposing team (Telstar I reckon) who was about my height but had what looked like 20 extra pounds of pure muscle and he was decked out in all black Oakley gear. At some point early in the game I challenged him on a ball and hit him pretty hard. He went down and his whole team rushed over like 'yo Dumont you ok?!' Since I didn't recognize him (basically no internet in Maine in 2003) and only realized who he was at that moment, I was like ah shit did I just murder the pride of western Maine, not to mention a rockstar in the world of skiing, in a pointless summer soccer game? But the dudemont popped up like it was nothing and proceeded to smash the shit out of us for the rest of the game, scoring a hat trick of memory serves. It was one of probably a million encounters he's had with someone else that he wouldn't have any recollection of but obviously I'll never forget it. Just another reminder of how tough and competitive he was at everything, not just skiing.
 
13876660:Deepskier said:
Funny because 80 feet nowadays isnt that big. Wonder why they "needed" a tow in.
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Jump was made in a flat area. Was made for a movie because of its unique location. Bottom of bonanza lift at park city if you have ever skied there.
 
13875567:SkiBum. said:
Not 100% sure the reason, that was a while ago. Thinking back right now. I want to say by the time it came out it took a while and was already a bit dated. I don't remember how it was pushed or marketed. It just didn't make a splash how it was maybe thought too. The dude above that was there or filming could maybe remember more then me. If you google it you may find it to watch on like YouTube or somewhere.
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I remember. It was the same year they were pushing PC hard in the mags and always using that far away sideshot of the big jump in kings.... with no one hitting it.

Aside from the internet hype around them filming (closing down the park for the heli shoot and building the towers for the cable cams) there was barely any advertising for the release. The trailer looked like garbage especially compared to Teddy Bear Crisis and War. Once it was released way too long after the trailer, no one cared and if I remember right, it was also released at a horrible time of year and for the same price as a legit film. It didn't help that movies like this (single park, limited riders) were already seen as a joke.

I'm not surprised it did horribly and Mango was fired because of it. It was a terrible idea all around.
 
was not the sled drivers fault. anyone whos hit a jump before knows the speed in their gut regardless of whats propelling them.
 
13875578:dylhole said:
I'm also pretty sure this was a few years before the I Ride Park City theme started. And Mangon wasn't there that morning if I remember correctly, nor did anyone from marketing or PCMR try to talk us into hitting it after the crash. I was just ambitious (dumb?) enough to get another snowmobile driver to give me some speed tests and somehow figured out the right speed and got a few laps on it before the lifts started spinning. Mangon did a good job of putting Park City on the map as far as terrain parks go, and it was plenty common to build jumps that weren't necessarily the safest back then. Look back at some of the jumps Mike Wilson drummed up and this would look like a walk in the park. I think there is some footage of trickery being done on this in one of Off Trail's movies and an old TGR movie too?
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Jeremy Cooper put I Ride Park City on the maps and as a recognized brand. Mango set some basics, Cooper took and ran with it and did above and beyond things. Good thing Vail fired him. Idiots.
 
This is one of the most entertaining threads I've seen on here in a long time. Lots of knowledge being passed around.....
 
This thread is a freshwater lake in a desert. Kind of just points out how bad the average thread actually is here nowadays.
 
Still the biggest overshoot and possible contender for biggest air on twintips. I think someone calculated he went 200 feet and dropped something like 90 from the lip to where he cratered?
 
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