Should non-skiers use avy gear?

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This subject has made me curious after reading that five hikers narrowly escaped from an avalanche on Ben Nevis (Scotland) after gully four slid.

Here's the article on it (short but sweet in true BBC style):http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-30673728

"Lochaber Mountain Rescue Team said the avalanche resulted from a cornice collapse in number four gully.

All involved managed to walk out, with only one very minor injury reported."

It is my understanding, from what I've been told from people who were in the area, that none of these hikers were in possession of transceivers, as is understandably the norm for hillwalkers in Britain.

In winter the Scottish Highlands and Ben Nevis in particular are hotspots for some nasty slides. Avalanches in this area have killed people in past years.

This has made me wonder if hikers in winter should be required to carry all necessary avalanche recovery gear when venturing into these areas.

As many of you will have experienced, access to many backcountry areas near resorts is restricted to those who are carrying transceivers, usually enforced by rangers via an electronic gate system.

Rangers in the area of the slide reported that, a few days earlier, hikers were found trekking under the huge cornice that had formed in gully four. After the rangers had severely reprimanded the hikers, it was found that they had ventured out to the backcountry from the inbounds area of a local resort. None of them were carrying avalanche recovery gear.

So, Newschoolers, my question to you is this: Like backcountry skiers, should hikers in the backcountry be encouraged/required to be carrying avalanche recovery gear (most importantly transceivers) when hiking in winter?

Please select an option in the poll below, and discuss further in the comments.
 
In Canada there is no regulation forcing skiers or anyone to have Avalanche safety gear - and I don't think there should be - in any country. If that happens you will end up with xc skiers getting tickets even though they never actually went into Avalanche terrain

That's the thing. "Backcountry" =/= Avalanche terrain. If you go for a hike in the winter below or in Avalanche terrain I think it's pretty obvious that yes, you should have the appropriate gear, but the more you talk about it the more it becomes an issue of educating the general public as to the difference between safe terrain and Avalanche terrain. Most people don't know shit about avalanches and that's the problem.

Education before regulation. Forcing people to have the gear but not giving them the knowledge to avoid the danger in the first place isn't going to prevent the incident.
 
IDK but I think one of you should invent an avi balloon system for kayaking and rafting. People drown all the time with life vests on when they get flipped out in white water. Something like the BCA float 22 that would keep someone's head above water would be huge.
 
13293168:Mr.Huck said:
IDK but I think one of you should invent an avi balloon system for kayaking and rafting. People drown all the time with life vests on when they get flipped out in white water. Something like the BCA float 22 that would keep someone's head above water would be huge.

Yeah for definite, something like that would be an instant hit I reckon
 
there should be desire, not regulation. theres no point in having a beacon/shovel/probe if you do not have the knowledge to use them safely. to somebody who does not know how to use it, a beacon is about as useful as a dowsing rod in an avalanche situation.
 
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