liquidsword
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i'm getting new skis this year and am a big guy 6'4 200. the hellbents are sick and i'm in utah so i get a lot of powder blue bird days. is it worth the money or should i get some other skis
Should i buy the Hellbent's? give me your opinion
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cobra_commander
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why not i am all for mor emoney going into the ski industry why don't you buy some more skis too
liquidsword
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good call. the graphic is dope
poofartpee
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if u shred the gnar of cliffs/pow/ and are going to start skiing/landing in pow switch go for it
Powforbreakfast.
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anyone know how heavy these pups are? like, can you compare it to another ski as far as weight?
Fucking monstrous. They're basically a wider and heavier Maden, which already weighed in over what a tank would.
Powforbreakfast.
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damn. that pisses me right off. probably not gonna buy 'em then. k2 skis are always on the heavy side...
skimasterflex
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It's those damn chinese kids falling into the machines faults, adding all that extra weight in blood sweat and tears.
Personally I hated the hellbents when I tried them, they are quite possibly the worst ski I have ever been on.
They are heavy and poorly made (I guess I could just call them K2s).
They have a shitload of sidecut for a fat pow ski, so not only do they not float as well as they could, but their turn radius is too tight to carve at speeds, and they hook and catch edges all the time.
They are very soft, but in this damp noodly sort of way... no pop or snappiness to them. Basically the feel scary and out of control, instead of forgiving and easy to ski like most soft skis do.
For other fat reverse camber skis, Ive spent time on Praxis, Spats, and EP Pros, all of which were significantly better (all in different ways) than hellbents.
They are heavy and poorly made (I guess I could just call them K2s).
They have a shitload of sidecut for a fat pow ski, so not only do they not float as well as they could, but their turn radius is too tight to carve at speeds, and they hook and catch edges all the time.
They are very soft, but in this damp noodly sort of way... no pop or snappiness to them. Basically the feel scary and out of control, instead of forgiving and easy to ski like most soft skis do.
For other fat reverse camber skis, Ive spent time on Praxis, Spats, and EP Pros, all of which were significantly better (all in different ways) than hellbents.
Yeah, I'd like to hear a comparison of the EP's to Hellbents... besides being wider, hows the swing weight, ride...?
rockymountainmilitia
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the EP's are way way way softer then the hellbent.
artfullydodged
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yessssssss
Ive gotten to ski the hellbents and ep pros, but unfortunately only hardpack/crud for the ep pros.
They are very very soft... I clicked in for the first time, did a few pole pushes, and tried to do a little butter/nollie.... and promptly went over the handlebars onto my face. Thats how soft they are.
The softness also makes them a lot of fun though... you can actually hold a manual or nose manual while skiing; you can even smear in and out of switch/regular while holding a manual.
One negative about how soft they are is that they dont have enough pop to help you ollie very high... on hardpack atleast. I think they may still ollie well in pow, but I didnt get the chance to find out. I think if I spent more time on them, I could have figured out how to slow down my ollie, and still get some good height... not sure.
They have less sidecut than the hellbents, which I though was a good thing. I didnt catch edges going forwards or backwards on the ep pros.
They are really really bad trying to ski forwards on groomers. You cant carve, they are terrifying going fast, and for some reason they push you off your center of balance (hard to explain... Im not even sure what I mean by this). I think all that is to be expected though.
However, here is the strength of the ski (of course), they are INCREDIBLE switch. I ski a lot, but am not really a park skier, and ski switch very rarely. So, I usually feel pretty uncomfortable switch. However, once I spun the ep pros around and started riding switch, I felt far more comfortable than I did skiing them forwards. I rode them top to bottom non stop through any terrain and crowds, without ever feeling the need to turn back around.
They have enough sidecut that you can carve them nicely, and if you feel yourself gaining too much speed, the rocker allows you to smear them a bit to dump speed without worrying about catching an edge. I also think that because they are so fat, its very easy to keep your balance skiing switch.
So, I guess I would conclude that the ep pro is a specific quiver ski, but is very very good in its specific niche.
If you ski all-mountain, or bumps, or anything like that on them, they will suck.
If you are either skiing pow, or messing around switch and skiing park, they are great. Id also add that they could be a really fun park ski, which you wouldnt necessarily expect of a ski this fat.
Wow, that was a really long review, I hope someone actually read it all the way through and it was helpful to them.
They are very very soft... I clicked in for the first time, did a few pole pushes, and tried to do a little butter/nollie.... and promptly went over the handlebars onto my face. Thats how soft they are.
The softness also makes them a lot of fun though... you can actually hold a manual or nose manual while skiing; you can even smear in and out of switch/regular while holding a manual.
One negative about how soft they are is that they dont have enough pop to help you ollie very high... on hardpack atleast. I think they may still ollie well in pow, but I didnt get the chance to find out. I think if I spent more time on them, I could have figured out how to slow down my ollie, and still get some good height... not sure.
They have less sidecut than the hellbents, which I though was a good thing. I didnt catch edges going forwards or backwards on the ep pros.
They are really really bad trying to ski forwards on groomers. You cant carve, they are terrifying going fast, and for some reason they push you off your center of balance (hard to explain... Im not even sure what I mean by this). I think all that is to be expected though.
However, here is the strength of the ski (of course), they are INCREDIBLE switch. I ski a lot, but am not really a park skier, and ski switch very rarely. So, I usually feel pretty uncomfortable switch. However, once I spun the ep pros around and started riding switch, I felt far more comfortable than I did skiing them forwards. I rode them top to bottom non stop through any terrain and crowds, without ever feeling the need to turn back around.
They have enough sidecut that you can carve them nicely, and if you feel yourself gaining too much speed, the rocker allows you to smear them a bit to dump speed without worrying about catching an edge. I also think that because they are so fat, its very easy to keep your balance skiing switch.
So, I guess I would conclude that the ep pro is a specific quiver ski, but is very very good in its specific niche.
If you ski all-mountain, or bumps, or anything like that on them, they will suck.
If you are either skiing pow, or messing around switch and skiing park, they are great. Id also add that they could be a really fun park ski, which you wouldnt necessarily expect of a ski this fat.
Wow, that was a really long review, I hope someone actually read it all the way through and it was helpful to them.
Love_Wins.
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Wow, I want EP Pros even more now...dangit.
cobra_commander
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one thing you should know is that for both the Seth and the Hellbent the stiffness goes up as the size increases. so the 189 Seth is stiffer then the 179 Seth and the 184 Hellbent is stiffer then the 174.