My oakley stuff is awsome, you just have to know what to buy. Ive owned Helly Hansen, Sessions, North Face, some Orage but oakley has to be the best so far. Its warm, the material seems to hold up, and i find it looks good. I don't rock the Anti-freeze, or the lime. I rock the camo puffy jacket, with troop pants....and have had no problems. As a matter of fact they have held up better then the helly, sessions, and north face stuff. Orage is great stuff, but its hard to find, and uber expensive. I do agree that the Anti-freeze stuff is pretty un-original now. When i went to Blue i seen like 4 kids in one day all with the same oakley anti-freeze puffy pants.