Seth Vicious

mw1235

mw1235

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The 05/06 vicious - i haven't seen any at my mountain, and was wondering what they are like? they look like beasts, so i have just a few questions, as i have never seen/ridden them first hand.

are the tips like the PE's or fujis (Fujis being more mellow)

and are they stiff or what?
 
haha eeah, i honestly didnt feel like picking through the threads though.. sorry for this pointless thread. i just wanted some up-to-date stuff.
 
Piss yellow, with a sick dual ski graphic, maybe a torch or something, and a sweet k2 logo that is on both skis. Pretty bad ass.
 
alright guys sorry im lazy. but one question i dont think ill find

are the tips like the PE's or fuijis (fujis being more mellow)

now i go to the searchbar
 
^shut up your a fag. and thanks nomensteven, seems to me like he should know a lot..wonder why...
 
will a 98 waist be able to hold an edge on ice/groomers?

thats basically all we have here
 
you dont know jack shit,a nd you're really getting annoying with your stupid comments, and unreasonably low offers on sales. thank god you finally bought elizabeths, now we just have to suffer one more wave of shitty posts in binding sales.

they're soft, fun and can do everything fine(including ice and groomers).but i really just go straight on groomers, so anything will be good for me. get the 189s if you want something stiffer
 
Here you are sir.

Skis: Vicious 169,179cm, Mantra 177cm, Titan Nine 181cm, Scrtach BC 178cm.

Skier: 5'7", 135 lbs.

Ability: Advanced-Expert. Can get down most or all slopes, but maybe not in great fashion.I like to carry speed through all conditions.

Terrain: Open Bowls, Tight trees, Spaced trees, Chutes, Groomed, Bumps

Snow Conditions: Powder(Deepest was waist deep, Average was knee), Crud, Chop,Packed Pow

Flex:

Vicious-Softest of the bunch, but certainly not a noodle. Just stiff enough to where its stable at high speeds, can rail groomers, and bust through crud.

Mantra- In between the Titan and Scratch. Nice even flex.

Titan Nine- Stiffest of the bunch. Similar to Legend Pro, possibly a tad stiffer, but not really noticeable.

Scratch BC- Simliar to the Vicious. Just a touch stiffer.

Groomers:

Vicious- Fun to fool around with on the groomers. Make groomers fun again.

Mantra- Deffinately stable on the groomers, but lacking the energy of the Vicious and Titan Nine.

Titan Nine-Best of the bunch. Could be the combination of skinniest, stiffest, and the sidecut, but these things just absolutely rail the groomers. Its like a race board, just a lot wider. Tons of rebound and responsiveness.

Scratch BC- With the wide tail they carve nice round turns.

The Vicious, Mantra, and Scratch BC all did equally well on groomers. Each one just had a different feel. The Titan Nine blew the rest of them away on the groomers, my pick for best in this category

Powder:

Vicious- Wow!So much fun in the pow. Very surfy feeling.

Mantra- Very dissapointed in this ski in fresh snow. Less float than Vicious and Scratch. Equal float to the Titan, which has an 86mm waist.

Titan Nine- Great for the width. Not my ski of choice for powder, but once again did equally well to Mantra.

Scratch BC- The wider tail, and skinnier tip than the Vicious makes it not as floaty and surfy, but still a great pow ski.

All in all, all the skis did good in the pow. I feel the Mantra could use some work in this department. My pick for the best in this category is obviously the Vicious.

Crud:

Vicious- Great in the crud. Absolutely blasts through everything.

Mantra- This is the Mantras strong point. GREAT in the crud. Like a tank.

Titan Nine- Again another awesome crud buster.

Scratch BC- Also good in the crud. Just didnt feel as bulldozer like as some of the others.

All skis did great in the crud. The mantra did excel a little more than the others though. Mantras will get the job done in the crud.

Tight Trees:

Vicious-Very fun. Carry speed and turn quickly was not a problem.

Mantra- Mantras were the worst in the group again. I felt they were way too slugish for the dimensions.

Titan Nine- Haha holy shit. These thing rip the trees. You can carry speed through the trees, and turn on a dime if you need to.

Scratch BC- Awesome skis in the powder trees. Loved them. Better than the Vicious in this catergory.

My pick for this category is a tie between the Titan Nine and Scratch BC. Very different feeling skis in the trees. Too hard to the compare.

Bumps:

Vicious- Not bad. Very doable, but you will get tired skiing these in the bumps all day.

Mantra- These things are a bear in the bumps. They sucked in tight bumps. Not so bad in spaced bumps. I felt I had to ski these in a very relaxed position in the bumps.

Titan Nine-I felt very comfortable with these in the bumps. Very quick.

Scratch BC-Same as the Vicious, but a little easier.

Titan Nines are the best in the bumps.

High Speeds:

Vicious- Very very stable at speeds, however not as stable as the Titan Nine or Mantra due to the softer flex.

Mantra- Great at speeds. No chatter, no problems at all.

Titan Nine-Great at speeds. No chatter, no problems at all.

Scratch BC- Ehh. Worst in the group, but not bad by any means. Still a very stable ski.

Titan Nine and Mantra are the best at high speeds.

Big Mtn:

Vicious- Great for big lines and hucks. Huge landing pad, stable at speeds, and nimble in the tigh spots. What more could you ask for?

Mantra- Good, but not the best. Great for hucking and cruising at speed, but not too nimble.

Titan Nine- Would be the best if it had the huge landing pad and huge float.

Scratch BC- Similar to Vicous. I just preffered the Vicious.

Vicious is my choice for the big lines.

Durability:

All skis seem to be bomber. Especially the Titan and Mantra. The Titan has some of the best constructions Ive seen. And as you probably know Volkl is know for having durable skis. The Vicious was great also. I ran over a few rocks and no damage done. Tough bases. Scratch BC seems to be great. I have heard some issues with Rossi though. I'm not seeing them.

Overall:

Vicious- This skis is awesome!. Tons of fun everywhere on the mountain. Just go longer. The 169 felt dead to me, but the 179 was $$.Fucking great in the longer lengths. Best pow/big mtn ski IMO.

Mantra- Personally my least favorite. It may just be me, but I have heard mixed reviews of the skis also. I guess you either love it or hate it. I hated it.

Titan Nine- Will be my next everyday ski. I will be purchasing it in a few days. Would be an awesome east coast everyday ski. It would be equally awesome for the west coast. Bomber ass ski. Very simliar to the Legend Pro flex and construction wise. A little smaller dimension wise. Best overall ski.

ScratchBC- Competition for the Vicious. Go longer, just like the Vicious. Turnier, a little less lively, and a little less stable. May be better suited for other skiing styles. I suppose everybody who likes this would like the Vicious and vice versa. If your trying to choose between the Vicious and Scratch demo.

Any other questions, just ask.

*Note this is after I skied some other comparable skis to the Vicious.
 
Worse than Maine? I guess I have somewhat limited experience in Maine, but Cannon (north facing) has been so icy that even traverses are perilous, and on one day a few years back, I saw 4 people take 200-300 foot falls. At least you learn good edge control pretty quick...
 
thanks alot for the review man. idk though, we have no pow out here, so im not sure if theyre a good stick for here.
 
For the record, the 05/06 vicious and the 06/07s are the same ski with a different topsheet. The Vicious is one of the bigger guys in the k2 lineup, but it by no means burly. Hence the reason why most of the guys in V-Crew ditched the vicious midseason.

And I'm going to guess that the review above was written after skiing Mantras mounted on the line instead of 1.5 back. You also need to weigh more than 135 to ski Mantras.
 
exactly what I was going to say.............and if you want it just get it, it will be fun to have whether or not they perform perfectly in your conditions. If its that bad someone on ebay will probably buy them for as much as your paid anyway....again, if you like them just get them.
 
Yes, mounted on the line. As you can tell I didn't love them, but that was also on my 5th straight day skiing, so it really isnt a fair review.

Skied Vicious first day, BCs second, Titans third, and Mantra last.

But I disagree that you need to weigh more than 135 to ski mantras. The tip just felt super hooky on the steep stuff and they felt dead, but maybe thats cause I was coming off of Titans Nines. I felt almost like I had to ski them like an oldschool straight ski, or just relaxed like an old man. When I tried to let them run in open areas they were unstable and not very fun.

I want to try them again to see if I feel the same. I'd probably demo the 184 instead though.
 
yep. 1.5 back is the sweetspot. It makes a world of difference.

But yeah, in order to get the mantras to be lively you need to ski them hard, really hard. I do think it comes down to weight too. I weigh 175 and there are some times when I'm tired where it is hard for me to flex them. I wonder if you ever really got them to flex or if you just pushed them around? It sounds like the latter. But that's not supposed to sound confrontational, you can ski as hard as you want but I think you need to weigh more to get some good performance out of them.

I love them in the pow (must be the mounting back, and the extra 7cm on mine), I love them in the crud, and they work great for me on groomers. Bumps are mediocre performance AT BEST (the stiff tail bucks me around a little) and trees with the mantras is damn neer suicide for me. I can't get them to turn tight enough in the trees.
 
but then again, if you can ski 190 goths you should be able to ski 177 mantras pretty damn well. You know what you are talking about. To each his own. If you do try them again, try the 184's and have them mounted 1.5 back.
 
Of course the Vicious holds on ice. All K2's do. Torsional rigidity is one of the mainstays of the brand with the triaxial braided consturction. What that means is we wrap our cores in a specific angled braid to keep the ski from wanting the twist when preasure is applied on edge, specifically ice. Like a giant Chinese Finger Lock.

As for the Vicious itself, that ski really truly does it all...and well. Try out a friends and see how they work for yourself.
 
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