Sea to Sky gondola was cut.. again

14175805:T.L. said:
I use one just about every day I'm in my shop at work. They're as fast as you need them to be and are not difficult to keep straight. The weight of the tool itself is what helps the cut. There is no blade heat issue unless you're cutting solid rod and at that point you just dial down the speed and it might take a few extra seconds to get through your cut.

I've literally used them to cut pieces of old haul ropes for various projects. Even one up to like 3" diameter would only take a minute or two.
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Gotcha I’ve used them to cut 4 inch rigid conduit and it cuts like butter. I wasn’t sure how it would do on a tensioned cable.
 
14175805:T.L. said:
I use one just about every day I'm in my shop at work. They're as fast as you need them to be and are not difficult to keep straight. The weight of the tool itself is what helps the cut. There is no blade heat issue unless you're cutting solid rod and at that point you just dial down the speed and it might take a few extra seconds to get through your cut.

I've literally used them to cut pieces of old haul ropes for various projects. Even one up to like 3" diameter would only take a minute or two.
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damn, that's insane. regardless of how well that tool could cut through a cable, wouldn't you have a serious issue anyway when you're halfway through the braided cable and the remaining, uncut cable fails under the load concentration? i feel like you would have to have some remote cutter or a delayed chemical reaction to do this without killing yourself in the process.
 
I've been discussing this a lot with the guys at work, we use pretty much all of the tools discussed so far in this thread. Our conclusion today was that the easiest/safest way to do this would be with a backpack style acetylene torch. I think you could do it easily with a grinder but that would require you to be right next to the cable, and one of those portable band saws would be even worse. An acetylene torch would cause that cable to fail pretty quickly and you could keep your distance as well.
 
The mechanical insight from this thread is incredible. Highly invested as to if they ever announce the technique that was used. I just can't imagine the balls on the person that did this or being the eyes watching it go down two times. Fucked up the amount of damage, but amazing at the same time. Wonder how much additional security will be involved after this one. Gonna be fort knox over there.

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14177670:pinkcamo1000 said:
I've been discussing this a lot with the guys at work, we use pretty much all of the tools discussed so far in this thread. Our conclusion today was that the easiest/safest way to do this would be with a backpack style acetylene torch. I think you could do it easily with a grinder but that would require you to be right next to the cable, and one of those portable band saws would be even worse. An acetylene torch would cause that cable to fail pretty quickly and you could keep your distance as well.
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how far away could you be with an acetylene torch?
 
14177684:d00d said:
The mechanical insight from this thread is incredible. Highly invested as to if they ever announce the technique that was used.
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Well many skiers support our addiction with manual labor throughout the year, much of which utilizes all of these tools. So it makes sense. I wanna find out if they ever catch the guy and get justice
 
14177670:pinkcamo1000 said:
I've been discussing this a lot with the guys at work, we use pretty much all of the tools discussed so far in this thread. Our conclusion today was that the easiest/safest way to do this would be with a backpack style acetylene torch. I think you could do it easily with a grinder but that would require you to be right next to the cable, and one of those portable band saws would be even worse. An acetylene torch would cause that cable to fail pretty quickly and you could keep your distance as well.
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For sure. A mini acetylene torch kit would make super quick work of it. The only thing a smart person would worry about is the slag igniting the brush at the bottom of the tower which is your only exit. If it was high enough I guess it could cool on the way down and make little slag bb's the way a shot tower works.

Either way, I don't expect to find out what was used to cut it as that might create copy cat fuckers who could do this all over the place.
 
I have a few husqvarna hot saws that would go through one of those cables in about 10 seconds. Then, I assume, the snapping cable would go through my spine in about .0001 seconds.
 
Reading through this thread I'm sitting here wondering if they dude thermited it? I don't see how you'd cut a cable like that if it's under load, unless he did something to prevent it from snapping and cutting him in half prior to cutting it. That being said I don't see how one could thermite it and not start a forest fire if you just light it and run.

Edit: and now that I google the melt point of steel it seems like you'd need to do something other than ion oxides + aluminum to alumina and iron metal cause that won't get hot enough.

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14178609:DrZoidberg said:
Reading through this thread I'm sitting here wondering if they dude thermited it? I don't see how you'd cut a cable like that if it's under load, unless he did something to prevent it from snapping and cutting him in half prior to cutting it. That being said I don't see how one could thermite it and not start a forest fire if you just light it and run.

Edit: and now that I google the melt point of steel it seems like you'd need to do something other than ion oxides + aluminum to alumina and iron metal cause that won't get hot enough.

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You don't need to literally melt steel for the structural integrity of it to fail. See 9/11
 
Thermite burns at 4000F bro. Much more than needed to melt steel, let along affect the structural integrity under stress.

14178609:DrZoidberg said:
Reading through this thread I'm sitting here wondering if they dude thermited it? I don't see how you'd cut a cable like that if it's under load, unless he did something to prevent it from snapping and cutting him in half prior to cutting it. That being said I don't see how one could thermite it and not start a forest fire if you just light it and run.

Edit: and now that I google the melt point of steel it seems like you'd need to do something other than ion oxides + aluminum to alumina and iron metal cause that won't get hot enough.

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I chuckled hehehehe

I kinda agree on a way with whoever cut it. Whistler has been fucking over the indigenous ppl for a long time now. Just my two cents

i also think this is funny

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The problem with ecoterrorism is that it is completely counterproductive to their goals and just requires more resources to rebuild. Like when Two Elk Lodge was burned down in the late 90s they just built it bigger.
 
Well I think this is funny af lol

im howling laughing hehehe

14178761:RIP_leos_shack said:
The problem with ecoterrorism is that it is completely counterproductive to their goals and just requires more resources to rebuild. Like when Two Elk Lodge was burned down in the late 90s they just built it bigger.
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14295482:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
Place your bets on whether or not this happens again this year. I personally think that it will.
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fuck I hope not. buying a pass shortly for the year. *apparently* they've hired 247 security this time..... we'll see what happens
 
14178619:HypeBeast said:
Thermite burns at 4000F bro. Much more than needed to melt steel, let along affect the structural integrity under stress.
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THERMITE CAN'T MELT STEEL CABLES!!!
 
14296094:WoFlowz said:
I’ve got 20$ to the first person who does this at whistler in protest of Vails pass prices
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Just so you can make 250k when you snitch the guy out to rcmp?
 
Forreal though this is a wild fucking story, and as much as its pretty shit, I have to kinda laugh that its happened twice...
 
14296094:WoFlowz said:
I’ve got 20$ to the first person who does this at whistler in protest of Vails pass prices
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The lowered the epic pass price this year so might wanna think of something else.
 
every time i see the thread title on the first page of SG i always think that they did it the third time
 
Came here thinking it happened again left disappointed. Bet it’s gonna happen again it’s practically a tradition at this point
 
One could easily heat that bitch up with a torch and blast it with freezing cold water…SNAP all from a distance

Also a strong enough electrical arc would cut it, I cracked a track loader bucket in half a few years back when I hit a main line running into a housing development, it was fuckin awesome
 
On the news they were talking about how the people who were opposed to the gondola were indigenous, locals, and rock climbers. Then they were talking about how it was super confusing how someone managed to climb a tower to cut it the 2nd time since the ladders were removed. Pretty sure they could have put 2 + 2 together on that one..
 
14297996:corona said:
On the news they were talking about how the people who were opposed to the gondola were indigenous, locals, and rock climbers. Then they were talking about how it was super confusing how someone managed to climb a tower to cut it the 2nd time since the ladders were removed. Pretty sure they could have put 2 + 2 together on that one..
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indigenous local rock climber obviously.
 
14297735:SavageBiff said:
One could easily heat that bitch up with a torch and blast it with freezing cold water…SNAP all from a distance

Also a strong enough electrical arc would cut it, I cracked a track loader bucket in half a few years back when I hit a main line running into a housing development, it was fuckin awesome
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Holy fuck it cracked a bucket in half? Guess you could never hit a live mainline for urban...
 
The arc took out a chunk 6” wide and cracked it the whole way thru

14298052:ReturnToMonkey said:
Holy fuck it cracked a bucket in half? Guess you could never hit a live mainline for urban...
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Urban on a main line? Don’t some skis have rubber inserts? Should be aight, right? If not send ya for a hell of a spin, spin to win ? seriously could probably do it on b dogs ….
 
I had to cut some wire rope in the woods today. It made me think about this thread, so I took a video of me cutting another piece. This took about 3 seconds to cut 9/16" wire rope. I'm pretty sure most gondolas use 2", meaning it could be cut in ~10.6 seconds.

Also, my saw had a stone blade, would probably go faster with an actual metal cutting wheel.

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1014808/20211021-144646-2-hevc-mp4[/video]
 
I don't think the real question is what could cut it. There is a ton of way to snap it. But how someone did it and didn't get fucking cut in half from the ends of the rope. And also the 2nd time getting away with. It's lucky that no one has been killed by all of this

14335498:TheMoostafian said:
I had to cut some wire rope in the woods today. It made me think about this thread, so I took a video of me cutting another piece. This took about 3 seconds to cut 9/16" wire rope. I'm pretty sure most gondolas use 2", meaning it could be cut in ~10.6 seconds.

Also, my saw had a stone blade, would probably go faster with an actual metal cutting wheel.

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1014808/20211021-144646-2-hevc-mp4[/video]
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14335500:hoodratz47 said:
I don't think the real question is what could cut it. There is a ton of way to snap it. But how someone did it and didn't get fucking cut in half from the ends of the rope. And also the 2nd time getting away with. It's lucky that no one has been killed by all of this
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Yeah fuck cutting a tensioned wire rope. That being said, now that I think about it a little more, the tension would be pulling both sides (after it's cut) directly away from you, so right at the cut would probably be the safest spot.
 
14335503:TheMoostafian said:
Yeah fuck cutting a tensioned wire rope. That being said, now that I think about it a little more, the tension would be pulling both sides (after it's cut) directly away from you, so right at the cut would probably be the safest spot.
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I chuckled again hehe

i was hoping this was cut thrice
 
They've definitely got em now

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/sea-to-sky-gondola-vandalism-update-2022-1.6582667
 
funny enough, just arrived in Whistler and my pops was telling me about this as we drove thru Squamish. Had no idea this happened
 
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