SD VS. HD (Filming/Cameras)

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So obviously SD has been very popular recently especially in a urban edit (See every vishnu video), but is it worth the struggle of filming on tapes and using old equipment just for that shot when a HD camera can get a 100% better shot fisheye or not imo.
 
Im going beyond newerwave by buying old kodak max through obscure camera hobbyist forums and filming them by tap/spin as fast as possible and then stitching it all together on the pc

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14008540:TRVP_ANGEL said:
Im going beyond newerwave by buying old kodak max through obscure camera hobbyist forums and filming them by tap/spin as fast as possible and then stitching it all together on the pc

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**This post was edited on Mar 6th 2019 at 10:31:49am

THAT IS A STRETCH MY G, that is so much work u deserve a medal or something
 
14008540:TRVP_ANGEL said:
Im going beyond newerwave by buying old kodak max through obscure camera hobbyist forums and filming them by tap/spin as fast as possible and then stitching it all together on the pc

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**This post was edited on Mar 6th 2019 at 10:31:49am

Orange name was revoked eh? Sorry for ur loss
 
I would argue SD is not popular at all and is declining even more. If someone wants to use a vx2100, more power to them, but using tapes and shooting SD is just an overall pain in the ass, there is a reason they invented new equipment.
 
filming in SD vs HD is like listening to music via a record player vs listening to music by streaming. One method is much more popular, due to how much easier it is, while the other will always be preferred by a smaller group of people, despite the fact that is much less practical.

Even though SD shots are technically inferior to HD shots, some people just like how SD shots look, and to them it's worth it to go out of their way to film in SD.
 
iPhone footy for the win. iPhones record some good ass video. You can film the shakiest line ever and it will smooth it out. Plus it’s easy to zoom in and out and easy to view the shot right away. Plus it’s practical: you just throw it back in your pocket when you’re done filming.

Nobody can film with the old cameras like the Vishnu boys. They make it look good but anyone else who does it, it looks like a shitty job done IMO.
 
Argument is moot. It’s all up to personal preference, influences, and what is actually better for your workflow. I’d rather work through a captured tape in editing than 100 individual files. I find shooting on a camcorder style camera is better for capturing moments. Plus death lens over aspherical fish every time.
 
14008858:aaronKalat said:
I’d rather work through a captured tape in editing than 100 individual files.

So you'd rather capture 100 clips via a tape than copy/paste 100 files from an SD card? Maybe you do something different, but to me that is 10x as much work if not more.
 
14008732:weastcoast said:
iPhone footy for the win. iPhones record some good ass video. You can film the shakiest line ever and it will smooth it out. Plus it’s easy to zoom in and out and easy to view the shot right away. Plus it’s practical: you just throw it back in your pocket when you’re done filming.

Nobody can film with the old cameras like the Vishnu boys. They make it look good but anyone else who does it, it looks like a shitty job done IMO.

HG and bristol skatepark/ liam mckinley kill the SD game, whatchu talkin bout fam. "anybody else who does it, it looks like a shitty job done". FOH

Watch some Vermont skiing, yo.
 
14008858:aaronKalat said:
Argument is moot. It’s all up to personal preference, influences, and what is actually better for your workflow. I’d rather work through a captured tape in editing than 100 individual files. I find shooting on a camcorder style camera is better for capturing moments. Plus death lens over aspherical fish every time.

Same brah, yo HD sucks big ones, this man eheath tripping
 
14008866:eheath said:
So you'd rather capture 100 clips via a tape than copy/paste 100 files from an SD card? Maybe you do something different, but to me that is 10x as much work if not more.

Like I said, it’s a preference thing.

I find it beneficial watching through the clips again during a capture. I like timestamping clips as I do so, and then working through the footage on a timeline.

There is no right or wrong way to produce video.

Editing through HD clips is probably efficient as hell if you are making the same glidecam video for the hundredth time. Is efficiency all that matters when it comes to creating videos? I sure as hell hope not.
 
14008941:aaronKalat said:
Like I said, it’s a preference thing.

I find it beneficial watching through the clips again during a capture. I like timestamping clips as I do so, and then working through the footage on a timeline.

There is no right or wrong way to produce video.

Editing through HD clips is probably efficient as hell if you are making the same glidecam video for the hundredth time. Is efficiency all that matters when it comes to creating videos? I sure as hell hope not.

You're not wrong, everyone has their own ways of producing video. This process you just described is logging footage, I do the same thing every time I film just with digital files, as does everyone else (I hope).

To answer your question, efficiency isn't all that matters but it's important to me. IDK what you do, but my job for over 10 years has been producing videos, being efficiency doesn't mean you're not artistic my dude.

If you want to log tapes and shoot SD, do it man that's great, but don't act like being efficient instantly lowers the quality of your production, efficiency is a standard.
 
Most Modern "Vintage" Edits, at least professional ones. Are filmed with modern pro camera equipment, and they use something like Trapcode Universe or Trapcode Magic Bullet for the color and look.

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14009061:DMSpence said:
Most Modern "Vintage" Edits, at least professional ones. Are filmed with modern pro camera equipment, and they use something like Trapcode Universe or Trapcode Magic Bullet for the color and look.

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I don’t think so lol
 
HD footage is aesthetically boring. Just like watching someone on volkls doing a dub 10 safety is not that entertaining to watch. Level 1 makes great films but id rather watch Finess or Children of the Guan because theres a lot more creativity that goes into the process which you can see in the final presentation. I like SD. I like low angle follow footy. I like zooming with a button. I like the vignette in the corners of the screen. It baffles me that people think SD is on its way out.

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14009209:eheath said:
Please elaborate on this, I'm curious what you have to say.

It all comes down to that raw look that skiiers and skateboarders chase with a vx, its all bullshit hype trying to recreate the 90's while hd is way easier to use and gets the shot done just ass good if not better
 
14009209:eheath said:
Please elaborate on this, I'm curious what you have to say.
14009231:skiswerve said:
It all comes down to that raw look that skiiers and skateboarders chase with a vx, its all bullshit hype trying to recreate the 90's while hd is way easier to use and gets the shot done just ass good if not better

Same reason music producers still use old ass samplers and synths. They're made of unique circuitry that doesn't exist anymore and each add their own unique flavor to the sound. With today's circuitry everything is streamlined and everybody uses the same electronic parts. You can process the footage all you want but you'll never be able to truly reproduce all the imperfections and textures of older hardware.
 
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