Scratch Vs. Teneighty

[WhiskeyRodeo]

I am looking to get a new pair of skis i ski mostly just normal runs and the glades should i get the 1080 foils

or a new pair of those old red and white scratches

 

[BenJAMIN4aWhil3]

scratch

 

[BCKicker540]

foils are good for glades, they have a real extreme sidecut so they help you make wuick turns in the trees. also the extra waist width will help you float when it snows

 

[WhiskeyRodeo]

thanks BCK any one else????

 

[jayamait]

its personal preference. and i havnt ridden both so i can't say.

 

[FUUUCK]

i find the foil gets locked in a carve too easily and isnt great for slidy turns, its plenty stable though

 

[lyndon]

scratches are always solid man. i demoed the foils, in a 166. i foun them to be light, but a little bulky. i didnt lik ethe way they carved. i have scratch pros, which are the same construction as those scratches. i would suggest scratch. much cheaper, wood core, and very very very durrable. a lot of guys have complained about the foils due to some edge problems...... its you choice!!!

 

[tattooed-n-evil]

I have those scratches, decent weight. They handle really well for switch skiing. Plus they're tanks. I've been riding mine for 2 years now, tough skis

 

[West_Side_Havoc]

scraches for sure

 

[leone]

scratch

 

[WhiskeyRodeo]

thanks guys

i want to keep these skiis for a while so durability is important

what are the problems with the 1080's edges

 

[n-o]

that scratch has a really wierd flex pattern right in front of ther binding as if it was on a hinge..... get the foil .. a way bnetter ski in all aspects

 

[Mr_Bojangles]

The Foil owns the Scratch in all aspects, the Foils actually carve

 

[Mr_Bojangles]

^he speaks the truth

 

[iskindiana]

no way go for the scratch FS... they widened them up and they are such a sick ski.... if you are a small person u might have trouble flexing the new scratches they are a little stiffer, while the foils are soft

 

[lyndon]

the problems with the foils edges are they are really thin, and they come out after a good bashing on rails, kinda like the TM's. i demoed them, and the edges didnt look thet thick. i will say the foils carve well, but the scratches arent far behind. concidoring you have race skis, you need a good, solid twin tip. you want durrability, go with the scratch, you cant beat an all wood core, and thick edges and a hard base. the scratches you want have been made 2 years ago, and they are solid. go with a tried and tested scratch. dont chance it with the foils. i have nothing against solomon, but thats my opinion. the scratches will take a beating and look great at the end of the season.

 

[jayrock]

Do yourself a favor...if you get the foils, dont get the salomon 912 bindings.`

 

[kj_hud]

id def say foils, just because of the scratch model you are comparing it to

 

[dougmonkey]

I don't mean to threadjack but i didn't want to start a new thread with the same title.

I am looking at getting either '07 Foils or '07 Scrathes (the ones with the burnt out graphics) because I can get them at trade prices. Which ones are the better ones next year? I know they haven't been demo'd yet but I need to gat my order in soon.

 

[ski_cartel]

yea iv skied both and i would go for the scratch, they have a wood core so your gona get a longer life out of em, i know that you can argue that point but its true

 

[WhiskeyRodeo]

thanks i just want to tell evryone how much i appreciate the useful advice

 

[jayamait]

yes thank you nolan.

 

[ihatemyscratches]

ihatemyscratches. the weight and flex are ok and they spin fast but other than that they pretty much suck. the flex pattern is a bitch on the shins, the topsheet does not flex enough and cracks after serious buttering and manuals, (mine have core rot cause water got in a crack) the outer bases are soft as shit but i must admit i have no core shots even after skiing in the woods on little-no cover, and rubber (in the tips and tail) is not the kind of material skis should be made of. I hope that helps you but i can't compare them cause i havn't ridden the salomons.

 

[FREESKIER_FIVE-0]

everyone at my local mountain pretty much has scratch's and they all love them. id prolly go scratch if you are doin more park

 

[leone]

the scratches can carve if you know how to ski. they hold a great edge everywhere except a race course (which i have done before and it was pretty interesting)

 

[Edugs]

FOILs w/o question.

Great all over the mtn, fat tip and tail makes them especially good backcountry/ glades, v light but sturdy.

Also, good for sticking cliffs and kickers if your into that...

 

[iskindiana]

what year scratches do u have, ive had the 03/04s and the 05/06s and both of them rocked out. the 05 is a whole new ski and i have noo issues with them at all... all i do is slide rails and i only have a couple egde breaks... Sick Ski. Foils i hevnt skied but i have fingered them and they seemed super soft.

 

[ihatemyscratches]

i have last years, the white ones. they spin fast and are sick on rails but where i'm from there arent any rails within a thirty mile radius besides sketchy urban

 

[kozy]

foil

 

[poofartpee]

FOIL NO CONTEST that scratch ski is like a beg/itermediate park ski

 

[Silence]

outta those two id get the foil, but for the same price as foils you can get a pair of 05-06 scratch fs's - they will own

 

[squibble]

if your kinda short on money then get the BCs

 

[SnowMedic]

^forsure

 

[lastxlight]

Those are actualyl sprayer FSs

Which are not as good, If you do alot of pow and backcountry, get a scratch BC or sprayer BC. If not get the 1080 foil, anyone i know who rides them, loves them

 

[Mr_Bojangles]

^word, once you go foil, you never go back, damn those skis are fine

 

[lastxlight]

I like my sprayer bcs though