shredded them today. 184cm, 1 inch back from true center. I'm about 200 lbs and they were still pretty stiff for me, on the first run when i really tried to lean into some carves they kept shooting out on me, but i got used to them (prolly the extra tail that I wasn't used to), and then it was a pretty damn easy ski to ride. SUPER stable, I don't see these getting squirrely on lips, didn't even twitch at high speeds. I didn't get into HL park today, was givin a friends dad a mountain tour, but im lookin forward to chuckin these around in the air. Would reccomend this ski for someone lookin for just one all around pair of skis, or for someone already with a big ass pow ski that wants somethin stable in the park.