Schweitzer Help

SHampson

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Alright so me and some buds are going to mix it up next year. Instead of skiing our shitty mountain we decided we want to buy an apartment near schweitzer for 4 months and go there every weekend instead. The passes are so cheap over all it really won't be that bad. I've only skied there one weekend a couple years ago, so before we go in on this i want some input on the mountain. Thanks! I know that not everybody gets on regionals this time of year.

questions

1. How is the park? Size of it? Lift type?

2. What does the jumpline look like? When does it start up? Sizes?

3. What are the rails like? When do they start?

4. How is the powder? Quality? How often?

5. What are the runs like? How is the tree skiing? Steepness?

6. Anything else?

Thanks alot
 
questions



1. How is the park? Size of it? Lift type?


There's two parks (resort's words, not mine): the Stomping Grounds and the Terrain Garden. I can't say much about the parks, because I really don't spend too much time in there, but I can give you the basics -- I've been a season passholder for ten years. I'll be spending a lot more time in there next year.

The Terrain Garden is pretty modest (usually just 2-3 rails/boxes, a tiny jump or two and some rollers. That's located on the bunny hill (Enchanted Forest on the trail map) off of the Musical Chairs double.

The Stomping Grounds is a decent sized, but by no means Mammoth Mountain-caliber park (hey, pun). It's lighted for night skiing until 8pm Fridays and Saturdays, they've got music pounding and stuff. That's off of the Basin Quad. If you search around NS, you'll find a lot of shit about Schweitzer's park crew being slackers, etc. Very little of it is true. The park has been ranked best park in the Northwest in the past.



2. What does the jumpline look like? When does it start up? Sizes?


Can't help you much there. Usually the jumpline starts to take shape in early January, but it really depends on the year. Just take a look at this pic.

3. What are the rails like? When do they start?

4. How is the powder? Quality? How often?

5. What are the runs like? How is the tree skiing? Steepness?

6. Anything else?

Thanks alot
 
Sorry about the above, it posted before I was ready. Anyway, I'm gonna try to go about this without giving away too much of my local knowledge. It's a lot of fun to ski Schweitzer looking for the stashes (and it's not hard), not finding their locations from locals. haha. You might wanna take a look at the trailmap as I'm going through this.



questions




1. How is the park? Size of it? Lift type?


There's two parks (resort's words, not mine): the Stomping Grounds and the Terrain Garden. I've been a season passholder for ten years and I really only got interested in park last year. I'll be spending a lot more time in there next year.

The Terrain Garden is pretty modest (usually just 2-3 rails/boxes, a tiny jump or two and some rollers. That's located on the bunny hill (Enchanted Forest on the trail map) off of the Musical Chairs double.

The Stomping Grounds is a decent sized, but by no means Mammoth Mountain-caliber park (hey, pun). It's lighted for night skiing until 8pm Fridays and Saturdays, they've got music pounding and stuff. That's off of the Basin Quad. If you search around NS, you'll find a lot of shit about Schweitzer's park crew being slackers, etc. Very little of it is true. The park has been ranked best park in the Northwest in the past.



2. What does the jumpline look like? When does it start up? Sizes?


Can't help you much there. Usually the jumpline starts to take shape in early January, but it really depends on the year. Just take a look at this pic - the park in it's prime in 2008. I believe it had some more features last year. It changes from year to year, and they'll rebuild a couple times a year.

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3. What are the rails like? When do they start?


Last year they had some rails up shortly after opening day in the Terrain Garden and in December in the terrain park (Stomping Grounds). They've got a wide variety of rails and boxes and they change it up frequently to keep everyone interested.



4. How is the powder? Quality? How often?


Every year is different. For example, this year we're going into an El Nino, which usually means slightly warmer temps and slightly drier air. No guarantees, though, every El Nino is also different, and last year wasn't bad for Schweitzer standards, it all just seemed to come when I was out of town -- haha. Schweitzer gets 300 inches/year, and it's a lot drier than the Cascades' powder because of the rainshadow effect. We can get consistent dumpings of 6"+ about every other day (or every two) at times, with stronger storms thrown in for good measure (again, not always, but it happens -- I'm trying not to jinx next winter). Maybe I'm exaggerating (dry spells do happen -- as this winter from Jan. 6 - mid February, aside for a few modest (6" or less) snowfalls), but these years do happen. And now I'm reminiscing. Schweitzer's not bad. Not Snowbird, but not bad at all. And as the saying goes up here in North Idaho, if you don't like the weather, wait a few minutes.

In terms of how long it all gets skied out, it depends. On weekday storms you can often get faceshots into the next day (or two). On the weekends the Spokane crew comes up, but it still doesn't get skied out that fast -- frequently you can get untracked lines right up until 3pm. Liftlines aren't an issue at all.

5. What are the runs like? How is the tree skiing? Steepness?

The backside (Outback Bowl) runs are pretty long, you can get in the full 2400 vertical feet on runs like Kaniksu, Snow Ghost, Have Fun, etc. (and those runs are great because you can dip into the trees for some untracked lines). South Bowl (Chutes is the name, locals just call it South Bowl) has a bunch of short lines, but they can hold powder for a while and have numerous cliff drops and other sick stuff. North Bowl (Chutes) has a bunch of longer steeps, with several cliff bands (including Big Bertha -- see Powder Mag for that), drops, and other stuff. Off of Stella there are a bunch of great cruisers (with more glades that you can dip into on the sides) and one of the gems of the mountain, Phineas' Forest. Little Blue (Idyl-Our t-bar) was added in 2005 and accesses some of the best stuff the mountain has to offer.

Tree skiing is top notch. Every single treed portion of the mountain is skiable. That's not an exaggeration -- they've done a great job of thinning out the trees. My personal favorites are off of Little Blue, Australia and innumerable unnamed stashes that I can call my own. You're not gonna get their locations out of me. Schweitzer got #3 in the US for Trees in 07-08 by Skiing Magazine readers.

6. Anything else?

Ski it like a local. Please. It's worth it; though it's not perfect, it's really good and it's quite rewarding if you go about it like a local. For example, Chair 4 (on the trailmap as Sunnyside) is an ancient double and seldom used by the Spokane crew. It accesses some of the best treeskiing on the mountain (Chair 4 Trees, Tree Farm -- which is on the trailmap as Shenanigans, etc.) and you can get faceshots off of it well after a storm. The Lakeview Triple is a great chair to lap runs on the Face and the Chutes in the morning. After that, everyone heads over to Chair 6 (Snow Ghost) to lap the North Bowl. This is where the typical powder day gets hairy. Do you submit to the lines (and it can get really long) at the base of Chair Six or do you go over to Stella? Take the chair. It's worth it; the best lines are there, and the 13 minute ride deters the nonexperts. I'll be honest with you; the lines in Outback Bowl are getting ridiculous. While nowhere near the liftlines at Breck, they're pretty insane. This is where a few of the locals have rediscovered runs off of Chair 4. I emphasize "some" because most of the locals are, in fact, over at Chair Six.

Wow, that was fun. I hope that wasn't too much information and I hope I didn't exaggerate too much. Anyway, Schweitzer's a great mountain, and I hope you have fun up here next year. Thanks for giving me something to do to keep my mind on the snow.

If you have any more questions, you're welcome to PM me.
 
that is a big + for me because our mountain has great tree skiing and pow, where we are getting fresh all day. but it is too mellow and short. They are also starting to not thin the trees and really care about the mountain. Thanks a lot for all the help!
 
No problem. As you can tell I'm not the most objective source. I've been skiing Schweitzer since I was 4, and it's now become my favorite place on Earth. haha

If you're into tree skiing, you'll love Schweitzer.

 
yes i do love tree skiing. Mostly all i ski at my mountain.

Going to add another question

7) What is the fog like up there? can you get away from it? how often does the mountain get it? what areas does it affect the worse?
 
7) What is the fog like up there? Can you get away from it? How

often does the mountain get it? What areas does it affect the worst?

The fog is the number one complaint I hear off the mountain. Never hear it on mountain.

Anyway, Schweitzer does tend to get socked in. A lot. We get our bluebird days, but a lot of the time we're in the fog and snow. My number one piece of advice is to avoid the frontside (Schweitzer Bowl) on foggy days. South Bowl isn't quite as bad and Swede Creek (the runs off of Sunnyside (i.e. Skid Row, Loophole, Caboose, etc.) isn't quite as bad and can hold powder well after a storm. The backside has more trees and better visibility overall. I tend to head over to Stella on foggy days and I'll hit up runs like Glade-iator, Kathy's Yard Sale, Phineas' Forest and the trees (or the sweet little rollers) off of Springboard. You could also head over to Little Blue (Colburn School, Recess, Detention, etc.) or North Bowl (Pucci's, X, Y and Z Chutes, Big Timber, etc.)

The other piece of that is to avoid the Quad (the Great Escape) on foggy, windy days. Nothing is worse than a vertigo-inducing, fog-filled Great Divide run (unless you drop into the backside halfway down, i.e. Whiplash, Misfortune, Shoot the Moon, etc.) or a frostbite-ridden ride on the Quad. It's easier to use Chair 4 and Debbie Sue to drop into the backside. Then take Chair 6 up to North Bowl or Stella up into the "Northwest Territory" (resort's words, not mine).

 
Not a trip brah. We are considering buying an apartment over near spokane and skiing schweitzer all year with season passes. We live about 3 hours from Spokane.
 
Are you looking at living in Spokane, then? Buying an apartment rather than renting one? Because there are a bunch of pretty cheap condos up on mountain at Schweitzer right now.
 
in case you haven't noticed, everywhere that's "really really sick" is also really really expensive. haha
 
exactly. We are looking around $400 a month for December through March. So i doubt anywhere close to Schweitzer falls in that price range. More like $400 a night? ha.
 
I love Schweitzer. I have grown up skiing here. I was actually just looking at apartments in the paper today and you can get a studio apartment for less than $400 a month in sandpoint. I dunno how old you guys are, but if you meet the right people you will have a good time. If you dont meet people, you will be bored out of your mind. Or try looking at getting an apartment in Coeur d'Alene cause it is closer than spokane. the drive between spokane and schweitzer will get really old, especially if you do it twice a weekend. If you want any more info, feel free to message me.
 
I guess that's where you and me are different. Powder day over sex. That is my answer to the ultimate question.

on another note. Anybody else wanna help us out and answer some questions just to give a more diverse view on schweitzer?
 
nah see man, its cause when you just wake up.... theres nothing to do except get readyfor skiing. pussy isnt usually there in the morning on the daily unless your a married man or in some lame ass comitement relationship.

Pussy is there at niiiiight, AFTER pong!
 
are you a girl?

if so, then i can be.....

but if your dude, you got one sick fuckin mind cause im talkin about how YOU can hook up with chicks. not me trynna come on to you
 
Naw sorry man i'm a dude. And it was jokes, i am very very appreciative of you trying to hook me up with chicks after some pong games as being your partner. I just hate to break it to you but it's not gonna happen man. Skiing is more important to me than hitting the party scene with Smokey420.
 
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM nah man. not the party scene. if you grew up in Boise you'd know thats the Boise scene haha
 
The bad news is; I have word from Chasse that once the economy recovers, etc. Chair Six will be the next of the doubles to be replaced with a HSQ. While I constantly lament the lines back there, I loathe everything getting skied out faster. And a HSQ would destroy the vibe of Chair Six.
 
Well, last I heard about this was a while ago, and they tend to take their time between replacements, so obviously there's no definite answer yet. But still, it looks like it will be next to go.
 
dammit i remeber when i was six i jumped off that thing because i forgot to get off needless to say the lading hurt i was about 10 feet up
 
Schweitzer's park (ok, parks) suck. Don't get me wrong, I like the mountain, I skied it for 9 years and it was great. But the park is crap. The jumps are extremely sketchy (to the point of being dangerous and not just to gapers) and most of the rails aren't even put up for most of the season (if ever). It's better than any of the other local parks (Mt. Spokane, Silver Mtn, 49 D North, Lookout) but that's not saying much.

If you want an uncrowded mountain with decent snow (not great, it's usually pretty wet or windblown, but we get quite a bit and there are enough aspects you can usually find something good), good tree skiing, and generally cool locals (discounting gapers and racers, everyone else in the area is cool), then Schweitzer's a good place. But if you're looking for park, go somewhere else. Pretty much anywhere else. Schweitzer is not a park mountain.
 
I like the different type of advice. But why is it so bad? Your karma is zero so...I don't know makes me a little skeptical.
 
My guess right now is either a HSQ with a midstation or two separate lifts. I'm reasonably confident that it won't happen until at least winter 2011-12. The point right now is that we all need to cherish what little time we have left with Chair Six.
 
Update: Big_Spence and I are buying Schweitzer passes this week. We finally came to the conclusion that it is too hard to get enough freinds to go in on an apartment, especially with parents letting them and all. Although it's much easier to get people to go in on season passes with us. Dirtystyle already bought a pass too I think. So we'll be skiing Schweitzer this year. Probably about 4-7 of us are going to buy passes, and we'll be just getting cheap hotels for the weekends. To be reasonable we probably won't be able to make it up there every weekend, so a cheap hotel would be a lot less hastle and a little less money. I'm hoping for atleast 15 days up there! So if anybody wants to PM me let's make some runs this season, maybe show us a few local spots ;). I'm stoked to be riding it!

By the way thanks for all the help i got in this thread. If anybody has any objections to us skiing Schweitzer over any other mountains in a 5 hour radius of Walla Walla speak now (quickly) or forever hold your peace.
 
Welcome to Schweitzer!

If you're looking for cheap hotels, I recommend the Motel 6 in Ponderay (off of highway 95 near Wal-Mart). Only about $49/night, even during the season. Then it's a quick drive up the mountain.
 
Sweet man. I have AAA too so i can probably get into some for cheaper. How far away is that motel 6 from the mountain? We are looking for close/cheap places I think.
 
It is the closest hotel to the bottom of the mtn (about 1 mile). You can drive to the bottom and then hitch hike up pretty easily.
 
^She's right on. If you're not planning on driving up the mountain, the shuttle is also only $2 (each way).

The Motel 6 is the best value, period. Comparable rooms at the Quality Inn ($69/$79) and the La Quinta ($99/$179), while they do offer free breakfast, are much more expensive.

That said, I do recommend staying on-mountain at the Selkirk at least one time during the season. While it's much more expensive ($199/$229), the vibe is worth it (if you can afford it), even for only one night. You've got the awesome outdoor pool and hot tubs, free hot breakfast, WiFi, etc., and you're ski-in/ski-out. It's really cool staying on-mountain - and you get a discount with a season pass.
 
^Thanks for being so helpful about everything man. Yeah maybe after christmas when we have some money to blow we could do a night down there. Let's ski some runs for sure while we're up there.
 
I will be up there for December and most of January. If you need a tour guide or some fellow nsers to ride with, just let me know!
 
New Addition to the thread: Who skis Schweitzer and wants to show us around a little or just ski a few runs or laps in the park?

We're excited to ski with some people that actually are on the same level and in to the same type of skiing we are.
 
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