my 96' 850 has 250k on it and still running like a boss. Volvo's are a really hard "first" whip to beat. They'll last forever. I still get 32 mpg out of a car that's 16 years old and the late 850 models come with 8 re-branded alpine speakers, a factory amp pre-instaled, leather, sunroof, power mirrors and if you're lucky a turbo for under 5,000 easy. Its not a subi, but put snow tires on and you'll rarely slide out, let alone get stuck. I've enjoyed mine.