Salomon TwentyTwelfe...

the guy at my local shop that mounts and tunes everything has them and he says he loves them. Great for all mountain and powder, hes not a big park guy but he does some jumps occasionally and he said that they performed well there too. He said the camber/rocker combination was tons of fun
 
well it is salomon so the edges are shitty shitty bang bang, if i was to get some rocker'd park/all mountain skis i would go for some k2 silencers, revivals, or armada alpha 1s. salomon is dooo doo
 
they bog in pow just as badly as Alplas/Halos.

which is pretty badly.

the 2012 is also a VERY SOFT ski. think Line Anthem softness.
 
well, ive been riding mine for a month now, and i abslutely love them. i ski the park with them, knee deep pow. groomers, they work super well on everything. super light, makes spinny tricks and railtricks really fun. when your spinning and you dont quite make it around and land sorta side ways, you dont catch an edge and eat shit, you just like land sideways and ski out sorta, but i reccomend them . soo fun. nice flex fun for little butters everwhere. i personally like using them on powder days instead of my czars, i donno why, i just find them more fun. im 5'9 and i ride the 179 cm 2012's.
 
my friend has them and we switched and they are soooooooooooooooo much fun to just rip all across the mountain but i wouldnt use them in the park i found them to be kinda heavy and awkward but thats just me idk i only used them for one run
 
Ahhh, I'm on mobile ns and I hit done by accident . But I don't find them that fun on rails., I love them for everywhere else not so much for rails. Just my opinion
 
I have heard really bad things about the suspects. look at some threads about them if you need more information. Unless salomon sponsors you... You should broaden your horizons ARMADALine volkletc...
 
I have only hand flexed them but they are a smidge softer than reviavls but fairly similar, I would say its a medium-softish flex.

They are definitley not Anthem flex
 
I have them and say they are a medium flex. They are extremely fun, being poppy and buttery yet stable everywhere, I haven't hit rails with them yet
 
so.. most of you guys think that salomon is not so good

could you recommend me a park ski that I could also use for the groomers and maybe also the pow...

if possible not to expensive
 
i've ridden on the 2012s for five days now, and done some backyard/urbanish stuff with them. I've really enjoyed skiing on them and was really surprised at how stable they were on hardpack despite the rocker. the rocker has been great for doing butter and ollies/nollies. they don't really work as a powder ski, and i got them knowing full well that i wouldn't be ridding them in powder because i have powder skis. if you want a rockered ski to handle park and pow i might recommend the atomic blog, i saw a kid riding the park the other day on them and they appeared to handle pretty well, just a thought
 
Ok before you move away from the 2012 just consider this. I have been riding my 2012's for a season and all I have to day is good things. They are awsome all
 
Sorry. They are awsome all mtn skis although the only thing is they start to get a little unstable a MASSIVE speed but are mostly ok. I personally find them a super fun all mtn/pow ski and they don't struggle in anything!!! And I absolutely love them in the park. I find the swing weight because of the rocker is unbelievably light and they are my favourite ski I have ever riden on rails. They are also very durable because because they don't have that fucking edge armor which is what fucks the suspect up. So seriously buy this ski. You won't regret It.
 
Well they don't have edge armor, so they won't explode after two days of riding.
Also I hear they are pretty good everywhereI would also look at the line chronic chryptonite or blend and the k2 revival or domain
 
i would say K2 revivals if your leaning more to all moutain than parkhowever if your more of a park guy like me i love my domains and they are super fun on everything
 
I ski on twent twelves and theyre sick in everything. Definetley not to soft. Theyre very stable and are great in every thing. great edge hold as well. I have nothing bad to say about them.
 
my friends say that the rocker could be a problem in the park

and one guy alway consideres me to buy very soft and quite short skies

I'm kinda confused xD
 
The rocker is so solid in the park, btw, if you look threw the NS magazine, they have a write up on the twenty twelves if you wanna check it out
 
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