I have the orange 181's from 2yrs ago and they have been freakin awsome. I put them through hell and back, both on the mountain and getiing thrown around in the back of my truck and garage. They are no good for jumping anymore, cause i smashed the edges in multiple places, but they still are gettin the job done on urban rails. This is the first pair of skis that has lasted me longer than one season, i'm impressed with them.