Safest park binding.

plorr

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So I tore my ACL and Lateral Meniscus this spring, and had surgery to repair it in May. So far it's coming along pretty well and it looks like I should be good to go for ski season. Being out of commission for the whole summer fucking blew and surgery/PT is way too expensive. So basically I want to be able to ski some park this year, but absolutely cannot afford to go through this bullshit again. Obviously I'll be wearing a brace and probably not skiing at quite the level I was when i got injured right off the bat. But I want to take every precaution possible not to fuck my shit up again. Which brings me to my question: What are the safest bindings that are burly enough for park use? What sort of technology should I look for when choosing the safest bindings for my knees?
 
dont know if i can help you but..

I have 4FRNT and i wont recommend them because they release too easy.I would also stay away from salomon.If i was u i would definetly go with FKS's or Markers .
 
fks , together with salomon sth bindings with the driver toepiece are the safest imho ...
 
After looking around for a minute, it seems like the FKS120 would be a good option since it has vertical release in the toe piece, plus I really don't need a din higher than 10.
 
binding type aside, ride a correct DIN setting. just cause you're gonna be doing park doesn't mean you suddenly need to crank them up a few numbers. Don't go running like 10 or 12 just cause you think you're gonna throw down. cause if you do throw down, you should have proper landings in which case the binding won't release.

 
yes I totally agree with this decision. I rode these bindings all season and they are definitely a great safe binding for park!
 
I've heard of them but never heard of anyone riding them for park. I'll definitely take a look at them.
 
Yah I did all last year and they are super amazing because they are designed to protect you from some of the gnarliest crashes. They are designed to keep you from tearing your acl.
 
Damn, they're kind of expensive. Still cheaper than another knee surgery and PT though. I think I may try them out for next season. You didn't have any issues with them feeling sorta "floaty" for lack of a better word, or pre-release? And not to sound like a cocky cock but how hard do you ride? 60+ foot jumps?
 
I mean they where some cases where they would re release but they did that maybe once or twice out of the many times I crashed. And I throw down pretty hard when I go off a jump but I mean nothing off like a 60 footer but I mean I have had friends who use the same binding off jumps like that, that say it is saved them from many injuries.
 
I do not recommend Marker, I have some shitty experiences with mine. My friend busted his brake twice, once nearly my entire heelpiece blew up, and on top of that, the shop at my local hill hardly has any Marker parts to fix them. Fks are tried
 
Mobile ns fucked me. Fks are tried and true, probably the number 1 binding on ns. Side note: I've torn my acl, and had my surgery in May. Went the whole summer on rehab and crutches. Hope you're 100% soon bro.
 
Hello again to all - this is John Springer-Miller, Chairman of KneeBinding, Inc. with an open letter to all NewSchoolers.

I have previously posted some factual information here (at NS) about our bindings. My goal has been to clarify what we do, and why we do it. In the interim, we have heard from many of you, individually, through our website, through e-mail and even by phone. For the most part, these conversations have been solid, constructive discussions, and we greatly appreciate them. Your questions, as well as your conclusions, tell us a lot about the things you care about. Please keep the feedback coming.

KneeBinding’s mission is to make the sport safer without compromising performance. The company came into being specifically because the knee injury rate has become such an epidemic, and because none of the other binding companies have done ANYTHING about it for thirty years.

This is a tall order - especially when confronting all of you. We work constantly to try to get the right balance between release and retention. And so do you. When you decide to crank your heels up one more setting, you are choosing to move toward increasing retention at the expense of release. In most cases, this is at the expense of safety. You have CHOSEN to increase the risk to your knees in order to get just a little more retention. But you really have nothing but “gut feel” to help you choose when you have too much retention. It can be very frustrating when your bindings release during a trick – especially when you can’t feel any reason that they should release. So, you crank ‘em higher. What else can you do? A great many of you do this – and so, as a group, you experience a significantly higher knee injury rate.

Given our mission, you NSers represent an enigma. First, we're not sure if it's smart business to market our "safety" product to you when we know you tend to have a higher injury rate because you adjust your equipment in a way that defeats (or diminishes) our safety features. On the other hand, since your injury rate is higher, we also know we can bring the highest level of benefit to your part of the sport.

Generally, one binding set at a DIN of 9 will release with the same overall force as another binding set at a DIN of 9. And - the DIN setting is really the only tool YOU have to increase retention. But there is a LOT more to retention than the DIN setting. But we would argue that you have to increase the DIN on most ordinary bindings (all brands other than KneeBinding) in order to overcome design weaknesses in those bindings. We engineered a binding that doesn’t have the same pre-release issues that ordinary bindings have. In doing so, we created a binding that would allow you to ski at safer DIN settings.

Elasticity is a big factor. Some bindings are engineered to have a “sudden” kind of release, while others have more elasticity. Elasticity is like a shock absorber – you can take a jolt, and the binding will give a little, but then pull your boot back in. The degree to which it can “give,” and the gradient of force involved in that “give” is one of the ways we minimize pre-release. By combining industry-leading elasticity with a floating mount system (the only one in the industry) along with our boot platform system, we have dramatically increased performance AND reduced unwanted release.

The KneeBinding boot platform has a lot of advantages. It is the ONLY one on the market that is, front and back, the full width of the boot sole. While others are curved, uneven, moveable surfaces, ours is hard, flat, and straight. It gets you up off the snow – with the highest rotation point for brakes in the industry, and brake ends that fold in higher than any other binding. We also have the widest screw platform in the industry – even more important as skis get wider. We offer a true toe-height adjustment, eliminating the kind of slop found in “automatic” toe height adjustments, and a variety of other engineered advantages. All of this dramatically improves leverage edge grip, and reduces unwanted release. And THAT means skiers can ski at lower (safer!) DIN settings, without coming out unnecessarily.

As always – we aren’t hard-selling. We’ll tell you what we’re up to, but you’ll make your own choices. It isn’t easy to start a new binding company. It is especially difficult in the current economic climate. But we have succeeded.

Please take a look at some of our latest material. The link below launches a video featuring Alex Levin – the Captain of the University of Vermont Freestyle Team - who ALMOST got hurt, but didn’t because of KneeBindings. And there are other videos, including one that demonstrates why other brands of bindings DON’T release when facing lateral force, while KneeBindings do. http://www.KneeBinding.com/NS

Again, we look forward to all of your feedback.

Yours,

John Springer-Miller

Chairman, KneeBinding Inc.

jsm@kneebinding.com

 
^Wow. Have to say I'm really impressed with your response in this thread as well as the other few threads I found by using the search bar. Couple questions though.

How much higher off the ski will Knee Bindings put me than normal bindings? This is important for Newschoolers because while more lift=more edge leverage, it also negatively affects how easy it is to do tricks on rails.

Where are some shops in New England that carry your bindings? (preferably close to CT)

Thanks for your in depth response. The fact that you guys take the time to respond and even make a video ad geared towards NS is definitely pushing me towards picking up a set of these.

 


We get you higher, but also wider - so we offer MORE leverage. KneeBindings also allow you to configure the ramp "delta" of the binding through a system of toe lifters. In all our testing, we have not heard any complaints about rail tricks.

There are shops all over New England that carry KneeBindings. If you check on http://www.kneebinding.com/KB-StoreFinder.aspx you can enter a location and find shops. Also - keep in mind that there are various ADDITIONAL shops coming on board for the coming season that are not in the system yet.

John Springer-Miller
 
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