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Thoughts on anything from Georgia to the missile shield?

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MOSCOW (AP) - Russia says its response to the further development of a U.S. missile shield in Poland will go beyond diplomacy. Russia's Foreign Ministry issued a statement saying the U.S. missile shield plans are clearly aimed at weakening Russia.

The U.S. says the missile defense system is aimed at protecting the U.S. and Europe from future attacks from states like Iran.

The United States and Poland signed a deal Wednesday to place a U.S.

missile defense base just 115 miles from Russia's westernmost fringe.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WARSAW, Poland (AP)—Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her Polish

counterpart signed a deal Wednesday to build a U.S. missile defense

base in Poland, an agreement that prompted an infuriated Russia to warn

of a possible attack against the former Soviet satellite.

Rice

dismissed blustery comments from Russian leaders who say Warsaw's

hosting of 10 U.S. interceptor missiles just 115 miles from Russia's

westernmost frontier opens the country up to attack.

Such comments "border on the bizarre frankly," Rice said, speaking to reporters traveling with her in Warsaw.

"When you threaten Poland, you perhaps forget that it is not 1988,"

Rice said. "It's 2008 and the United States has a ... firm treaty

guarantee to defend Poland's territory as if it was the territory of

the United States. So it's probably not wise to throw these threats

around."

The deal, which Washington sought as a way of

defending the U.S. and Europe from a hypothetical threat of

long-distance missiles from Iran, has strained relations between Moscow

and the West. Those ties were already troubled by Russia's invasion of

its former Soviet neighbor, U.S. ally Georgia, earlier this month.

Speaking to reporters traveling with her, Rice said, "the Russians are losing their credibility."

Rice and Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski signed the deal Wednesday morning.

"It is an agreement which will help us to respond to the threats of the 21st century," she said afterward.

Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said the agreement came after tough but friendly negotiations.

"We have achieved our main goals, which means that our country and the United States will be more secure," he said.

After Warsaw and Washington announced the agreement on the deal last

week, top Russian Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn warned that Poland is risking

attack, and possibly a nuclear one, by deploying the American missile

defense system, Russia's Interfax news agency reported.

Poles have been shaken by the threats, but NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop dismissed them Tuesday as "pathetic rhetoric."

"It is unhelpful and it leads nowhere," he told reporters at a NATO meeting in Brussels, Belgium.

Many Poles consider the agreement a form of protection at a time when

Russia's invasion of Georgia has generated alarm throughout Eastern

Europe. Poland is a member of the European Union and NATO, and the deal

is expected to deepen its military partnership with Washington.

Polish President Lech Kaczynski also expressed "great satisfaction" at the outcome of the long months of negotiations.

Poland and the United States spent a year and a half negotiating, and

talks recently had snagged on Poland's demands that the U.S. bolster

Polish security with Patriot missiles in exchange for hosting the

missile defense base.

Washington agreed to do so last week, as Poland invoked the Georgia conflict to strengthen its case.

The Patriots are meant to protect Poland from short-range missiles from neighbors—such as Russia.

The U.S. already has reached an agreement with the government in Prague

to place the second component of the missile defense shield—a radar

tracking system—in the Czech Republic, Poland's southwestern neighbor

and another formerly communist country.

Approval is still needed the Czech and Polish parliaments.

No date has been set for the Polish parliament to consider the

agreement, but it should face no difficulties in Warsaw, where it

enjoys the support of the largest opposition party as well as the

government.

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why is russia soo defensive its not like the US is goin to attack them for the fun of it??? the US should try to patch things up w/ ole Vladimir Putin before this problem escalates to total chaos..... where the hell is bush in all of this??? i dont recall him being mentioned once in the artical.... i hope he understands that russia shouldnt be fucked with like afghanistan and iraq.....
 
Ah, but does the fact that Russia's powerful justify its actions? Don't forget that our current status as world police grew out of our willingness to stand up to the Soviet Union during the Cold War.
 
Staying tough against Russia is very necessary for the US. Nobody else will stand up to them except us and I believe we have a duty to the rest of the world to stand up to them and keep them in check. That being said, i do not believe we are justified in putting up missile defence systems throughout Europe. It will create more problems than it is really worth in my opinion
 
hahaha okayyy mr. analyst. i'm sure there is way more stuff going on between the US and russia that we don't know about, and your warning doesn't accomplish anything.
 
Ofcourse there is, it was a joke, you serious think i ever want to talk to Bush,Yep thats right i dont, and is the US THE only Western super power?
 
Yeah, Im pretty sure Russia still have nuclear Bombs, and Iran are on their side and will join in, who also have the Bombs, all aimed at the USA.
 
Yeah, Im pretty sure Russia still have nuclear Bombs, and Iran are on their side and will join in, who also have the Bombs, all aimed at the USA.

To whom this it is necessary? I have no familiar, which should like to destroy USA. Ha-ha-ha :)
 
exactly. the guys a complete nutcase. this whole georgia deal is a plan put into plan years ago to take control of their pipeline. hes going to rape europe with oil prices once he gets it, and maybe this missle shield will prevent that. whatevers going on over there, america needs to be present, and be very safe about what they do
 
shit is going to hit the fan... sooner or later russia is going to start another world war 3 and were all going to get fucked over
 
people really dont know much about russia. they're like america's counterpart. they aren't going to go nuts and start a war over some missile defense base. russia is just as capable and smart about their capabilities as america. we been doing political BS like this to each other for a long ass time. nothing is going to happen. russia isnt stupid and surprisingly neither is anyone in washington.
 
Russia is just blowing a bunch of hot air. The missile defense system will shift the balance of power and the US will become more powerful in a strategic sense while Russia becomes weaker, because their missile capability will be less effective. They really cant do shit, there not going to start a war. While the Russians may seem crazy they know any military action against the US or a state like Poland especially if involves nuclear weapons will result in a war no one wants and maybe even the old cold war theory of mutually assured destruction.
 
From sky news-

He will deliver a major speech condemning Russia's decision to formally recognise two breakaway regions of Georgia.

Russian president Dmitry Medvedev has been accused of "inflaming" the crisis by insisting that South Ossetia and Abkhazia should be independent.

He also warned that he could authorise military force to respond to the controversial deployment of an American missile defence shield in Poland and the Czech Republic.

Mr Miliband said Russia's recognition of the two regions was "unjustifiable and unacceptable" and further inflamed an already tense situation in the region.

"It will also not work," he said in a statement. "It is contrary to the principles of the peace agreement, which Russia recently agreed, and to recent Russian statements.

"It takes no account of the views of the hundreds of thousands of Georgians and others who have been forced to abandon their homes in the two territories."

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Dmitry Medvedev

He was backed by Western leaders including US president George Bush and German prime minister Angela Merkel.

Mr Bush condemned Mr Medvedev's decision as "irresponsible" and called the move "inconsistent" with UN Security Council resolutions and the French-brokered ceasefire plan.

"Russia's action only exacerbates tensions and complicates diplomatic negotiations," Mr Bush said.

However, Mr Medvedev was defiant, saying he was not worried about the possibility of Russia and the West entering a new Cold War.

He said: "We are not afraid of anything, including the prospect of a new Cold War.

"But we don't want it and in this situation everything depends on the position of our partners."

He warned that he was considering halting co-operation with Nato amid the fall-out from the military confrontation between Russia and Georgia earlier this month.

Moscow this week cancelled a visit by Nato's secretary-general, and it has complained that the alliance is bolstering its military presence in the Black Sea.

In a move that is likely to increase tensions even further, Mr Medvedev echoed the words of a senior Russian general by warning that his country may respond to a US missile shield in central Europe through military means.

Mr Medvedev said the deployment of an anti-missile system close to Russian borders "will, of course, create additional tensions".

He said: "We will have to react somehow, to react, of course, in a military way."

Yep, its going to be cold war 11 without a doubt.
 
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