i've got a pair. super sick. they're not super stiff, but they're stiffer than like a fujative, thall, ar6, or troublemaker. they still maintain a ton of pop, though. they are super durable. i skied mine for the last third of the season and i skied them hard. took some serious slams with them, and they look pretty much brand new. the edges held up super well, with no cracks or visable damage. the bases, also, have proven to be bombproof. most fun park ski i've ever been on. get a pair. you'll love them.