Rope Parks

I feel like they are only good rail skiiers generally not good at jumps and usually bad at skiing like good carving
 
13403071:Mr.noodle said:
I feel like they are only good rail skiiers generally not good at jumps and usually bad at skiing like good carving

While I can agree that we slay rails and aren't very great at jumps, our skiing is definetly not poor in general. I myself ski rope tow parks everyday I ski because in Minnesota that's all there is. Our jump game is usually like cork 7/cork 9 and rodeo 5 versus people in breck throwing doubles. It's really because we don't have jumps to serve us for bigger tricks. Ropes are convenient and nifty as hell because they are right next to the features so you can hit a feature 4x more than hiking without actually hiking but the park gets pretty bland after a while.
 
13403071:Mr.noodle said:
I feel like they are only good rail skiiers generally not good at jumps and usually bad at skiing like good carving

That's pretty much me, except for the bad at carving part, best jump tricks are 5 and sw 5 not corked either
 
13403099:Swandog7 said:
It's really because we don't have jumps to serve us for bigger tricks.

The jumps in MN are terribly built. The landings flatter than North Dakota (that's pretty damn flat). Spirit Mountain knows how to make good jumps. When they do it right, they're better than a lot of jumps out west. They are nowhere near big enough for learning doubles though.

13403071:Mr.noodle said:
usually bad at skiing like good carving

Saying people on ropes can't carve is BS. Buck Hill breeds some really good racers and that's because they have a high speed rope on their racing practice hill. I get what you mean though, midwest kids can't ski big mountain for shit but carving really isn't that hard, literally just shifting your weight onto one edge of both skis.

If you can learn to carve on the man-made ice pellets of rope parks, you can carve anywhere because generally the snow conditions allow for better control anywhere that real snow exists.

My Opinion:

Rope Tows kick ass and give you as much if not more vert per hour as high speed chairlifts (depending on how fast the rope is).
 
Rope parks are only a big deal in the Midwest, and it creates a shit ton of good rail skiers. Once mountains out west adopt rope tows, it'll be crazy.
 
for me, my jump game is more about spinning all 4 ways rather than doing a left dub but not being able to spin past right 5. Thats what you get though when you're big jump is a flat 15 footer. And yeah midwesterners slay rails
 
IMO talented rail skiers can easily take tricks to jumps. Once you gain the air awareness & control it can help.

Honestly, I say all skiing affects my park skiing. Like skiing bumps makes your riding way better. It makes you so quick and nimble.

So, SKI BUMPS!!!!
 
13403071:Mr.noodle said:
I feel like they are only good rail skiiers generally not good at jumps and usually bad at skiing like good carving

I beg to differ. I've skied a rope park in MN most of my life. And without a question every trip I've made out west I've had comments about how good my carving/big mountain skiing is from other rippers (most have commented, "you learned in the Midwest didn't you? You kids know how to set an edge" or something along those lines). Its not the length of the hill you learn on or the size of the mountain, its the conditions. Here in the midwest we learn to shred on glare ice, not the nice soft snow you get out West. So when we do go out West shit is easy mode for us.
 
I've topped 60mph on two hills in Minnesota. One hill was 600ft vert. We can still hit the terminal velocity for skis.
 
Skiing on ice teaches us midwesterners how to set an edge. And learning tricks on shitty jumps makes it easier to do them on well made jumps. Nothing wrong with being good at rails anyway, I wouldn't trade the midwest for anything
 
imo i would rather be able to slay rails and throw a few simple 3s and 7s than be flippin and floppin like a madman in the air. i love big air and shit but ik ill never be like that. rails though, now that i can do
 
13403786:WuWang said:
Not even the length of the seasons

shit you got us. we put up a decent fight though. Usually we get a few hills to open their bunny hills with rails in October. Lutsen's last weekend is this weekend (although usually they go into the first weekend of may). Prime season only goes from thanksgiving to early to mid march, while the rest of the world enjoys staying open to 4/20.
 
We have a rope tow park at my mountain and is the only rope tow park in the pacific north west as far as I know, my problem with rope tow parks is I am extremely lazy, and end of sitting on my ass most of the time not progressing, when in a chair lift in a park I don't have the option to sit on my ass (aside from on the chair) so I end up doing better in those. But thats just my lazy self.
 
13403388:an_suck said:
I wouldn't trade the midwest for anything

Someti,mes I think that I would rather live out west and ski there but then I remember that my hill is five minutes from my house and I can get tons of reps in
 
13404435:OzzyJ said:
Someti,mes I think that I would rather live out west and ski there but then I remember that my hill is five minutes from my house and I can get tons of reps in

meh. lived 5 mins from my hill back home. now i'm in utah. i'll take a 35 minute drive to pcmr any day.
 
13404443:broto said:
i'm in utah. i'll take a 35 minute drive to pcmr any day.

SLC is where it's at. All the big areas are really close- compared to Denver and other big cities. Duluth Minnesota has chester bowl which is literally a 3 block walk from the university. thats pretty cool
 
13404443:broto said:
meh. lived 5 mins from my hill back home. now i'm in utah. i'll take a 35 minute drive to pcmr any day.

But then you have to think about a good time to go whereas when you are 5 minutes away you can go for an hour and not worry about wasting time driving
 
13404474:john18061806 said:
SLC is where it's at. All the big areas are really close- compared to Denver and other big cities. Duluth Minnesota has chester bowl which is literally a 3 block walk from the university. thats pretty cool

truth
 
13406041:Fred_Bear said:
I know someone that dub backed at spirit

I've heard the legend. Also there are a lot of snowboarders who double at hyland which absolutely baffles me because super isn't made very well.
 
13405786:OzzyJ said:
But then you have to think about a good time to go whereas when you are 5 minutes away you can go for an hour and not worry about wasting time driving

Lol nah son like 3/4 of the days out here are bluebird.
 
13406041:Fred_Bear said:
I know someone that dub backed at spirit

Soon as they got showtime up this year I saw plenty of people attempt and a few land it. I was super tempted to dub but cant get the nerves up for it after my crash trying it a couple years back.
 
At crystal in we of cursed with like 500 feet of elevation and no rope. Which means hitting three or four features, and then spending 10 minutes to get back up on a busy day. So the only option is to hike.
 
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