Ron Paul 08 (thread 2)

nope, but obama will.

paul wants to abolish the income tax, which will make universal healthcare, and many other government funded programs, impossible.
 
personally i would rather have a small non intrusive government and a free market. you want a huge socialist government, which is fine but i havent seen 1 reason how that is better then Ron Paul's government
 
it really could go either way, we could debate for hours, but i don't think either of us could really tell positively which would be better. i'd say i'm a little more towards socialism than others, but at the same time, parts of paul's campaign appeal to me as well. if obama ends up falling behind far enough, i'd be on the paul train simply because he and obama are the only ones who are there for radical change. all the rest of them are just blah blah blah same old politician horeshit.
 
cool I agree, I would rather see obama elected then any republican other then RP. hilary and edwards are so full of shit and kucinich or gravel will never get elected.
 
TEXT: R6 to 36288 to vote for Ron Paul on the Fox news debate thing. Hes kicking ass right now according to the vote right now!! Come on, you dont want to join the losers do ya?? :)

JEA THIS IS TIGHT!! VOTE!!
 
RON FUCKING PAUL IS WINNING THE POLL ON FAUX NEWS!!!!!!! I CANNOT BELIEVE IT!!!!!! he has twice the % as giualini. BAD FUCKING ASS!
 
god ddammit, why the fuck dont hannity and colmes understand that you CANNOT spam text messages, I imagine the voting machine does not count votes from the same number. They cannot get that through their thick heads apparently
 
bahaha no shit. I love how Holmes keeps interrupting him now because he knows hes just spitting bullshit.

By the way, Huckabees argument with Paul was not won by him or even close. Trying to stand behind the honor card is so fucking lame. This isnt the wild west anymore buddy...
 
hahaha, wow you two^. I thought eleven was just being an smartass because the K2 kid kept spelling QUOTE wrong, but they both spelled it wrong about ten times in a row.
 
HOLY FUCKING SHIT, that interview was intense as hell. HANNITY CAN go to hell. Seriously, fuck Hannity. Colmes is fucking chill and actually stopped the interview from going down a path of Hannity asking 50 questions about exactly every step of the way that Paul might do. God I hate that fucker, hes trying to hard to smear Hannity, but wow he failed so fucking miserably. I cannot believe he was trying to tell Paul (his ELDER) that he didnt know what is right and wrong. HE IS A FUCKING TV HOST, he doesnt know a god damn thing.
 
abortion, but its fine with me if he leaves it to the states. i just don't see him getting the nomination realistically. go obama or biden, edwards and clinton are hookers.
 
you mean bill is the only one who will know what to do if she gets office?

she feeds off his popularity like a parasite, makes me sick. fuck her.
 
Fuck if that actually happened, my faith in America might actually be restored. I would probably pick Paul, but my God that would be awesome.
 
at least one of the possitive things that i can see coming out of the fox debates is that, although paul was tested, he remained true to his convictions and the whole of america got to see that. he is one of the few candidates who can stand up to berrating by TV anchors and actually answer the questions, not just talk some BS and skirt around the issue.
 
Seriously, Im raving mad at Hannity right now. Im going to try and call in on his show today and give him a lesson. God he is such a worthless piece of shit. Whoever the fuck was laughing during Pauls responses deserves to be shot. That was very unprofessional whoever was doing it. I think it was actually one of the ugly commentators. Fucking disgrace to america is what it is. Its funny all of this shit is backfiring on Fox news so hard.

If you didnt hear, Ron Paul won the text message vote at 33% and the closest to his was Guliani I think with like 15%. JEA.

And contrary to what nincumpoop hannity said, YOU CAN ONLY VOTE ONCE. Seriously, that guy has no idea of reality. He was actually trying to tell Paul ( a guy who studies foriegn policy and knows alot more than him) that he didnt know what he was talking about. Its obvious. hannity is so afraid that he is actually going crazy trying to discredit every single thing Paul says.

 
just talked to the Ron Paul camp and was told that he's 100% BEHIND THE LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA. along with everything else, this guy's a fucking dreamboat.
 
god dammit, Hannity's radio show is a joke. I tried calling in . Some lady answers asking what I wanted to say to Hannity. I was a little unsure how their system worked so it took a little bit for me to figure out how call ins worked. Apparently they screen you before you talk to him (obviously) and if you dont love Hannity and you dont say what you have to say in exactly two seconds, you will get hung up on. fucking bullshit. Those fuckers only hear what they want to hear and try to silence all the rest.

 
bahahahahah

I just got hung up on again.

As soon as she picked up, I said "WHY DID SEAN HANNITY LIE ABOUT THE GOP POLL LAST NI(click)...."

GGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
If you really want to chew him out, why make up a bullshit comment to get past the screeners and then shout at him?
 
I told her that I wanted to discuss the happenings last night after the debate. And then shes like "What exactly about the debate?" and then I said "Specifically, his actions" ( I was being kinda general and didnt want to mention Ron Paul cause I knew that would be instant hang-up cause he hates him for some stupid reason) and then she said "Let it out." REmind you, I was caught a little off guard cause I had alot to say and didnt know where to start, I will be more prepared next time. And I said "Well...(1 second pause)" "Sorry buddy your taking to long /click"

FUCK!! The only guests they are letting on air are people who are in love with Hannity and love war.
 
Bills succes was greatly helped by her

she did alot of shit for him and she will know what to do

because of him

america isnt ready because they are so close minded

shame
 
Read this, from today, from Pauls website. This is an amazing read. I feel like Im sitting in the room and speaking directly to him about this the way its written. Wow, i feel honored to support such a great candidate.

Message from Ron Paul







Has

this been a hectic and encouraging time! First we got almost 17% in

the Texas straw poll, an event set-up to represent the establishment,

with very restrictive voting rules. That 17% of the Republican

hierarchy would support our views, after a full day of pro-war

propaganda, is good news. Then we won the more open Maryland

Republican straw poll with 28%. In both cases, as usual, hard-working,

well-organized volunteers made all the difference.

The Fox

debate was a lot of fun as well. It's true that a few of the network

people are not exactly with us on foreign or domestic policy (though

one famous guy whispered to me that he is a libertarian), but the

audience—with lots of students from the University of New Hampshire—was

definitely fair and balanced, as their enthusiastic reaction showed.

My

opponents called for more war, more torture, more secret prisons, more

eavesdropping, more presidential power. Some seemed to identify the

government and the people as if they were one entity. But you and I

know that once the government moves beyond its very limited

constitutional mandate, it is an opponent of the people, a rip-off

operation that takes our money and our freedom and our social peace,

and gives us a mess of statist pottage in return.

The

government failed miserably on 911 to protect us, despite spending

trillions. So the answer was supposed to be the giant, socialist

Department of Homeland Security, protecting you and me from taking our

toothpaste on the airplane. I was ridiculed for saying that the

airlines, which know best how to protect their property, should have

been allowed to arm their pilots. But then, you and I really believe in

the Second Amendment. It is not just a political slogan for us.

When

I discussed the blowback that came from us intervening on the Arabian

peninsula, Chris Wallace asked me if I wanted to follow the marching

orders of al-Qaeda. I responded that I wanted to follow the marching

orders of the Constitution, and not wage undeclared, aggressive wars

that cause us only trouble. This is a mystifying to some, of course,

but not to more and more Americans.

There was much talk of

taxes, and a pledge not to raise rates. But as usual, I was not

allowed to discuss my lifelong pledge to abolish the income tax. Just

holding the line, when the government takes such vast sums through an

illegitimate guilty-until-proven-innocent system, is hardly enough. We

need to slash taxes and spending if we are to have a future of

prosperity for ourselves and our families.

After the debate,

many young people gathered around the stage to discuss our ideas and

ask questions about them (and to have me sign their badges). My

colleagues got no such response, and after a few moments, "security"

ordered me off the stage. Can't have any such demonstration of

interest in liberty.

But the young are with us, and so are

Americans of every stripe. Even party officials. When one of my

opponent said it was OK to lose elections through supporting the Iraq

war, that set party people's teeth on edge, and rightly so. The

Republican party is shrinking. We need new people. It's either our

ideas or President Hillary, and more and more people recognize it.

But

the media, and everyone else, will be looking at fundraising totals at

the end of this month. They'll judge us by how we do. And we need

help to wage what we hope will be a full-scale, 50-state campaign.

Please help me head into the next quarter fully armed to do battle for

freedom, peace and prosperity. Make your most generous contribution https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/. This Revolution is on the move, but it very much needs your support.

Sincerely,

Ron



 
Ok, this is insanity. Ron Paul has raised over 500 K in 3 days from everyday working people. He is shooting to raise a million by 12 Midnight of September 30th, 2007. COME ON PEOPLE. THROW IN EVEN JUST 5$. BE APART OF SOMETHING BIG AND SOMETHING REAL, SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN IN THE POLITICAL WORLD. He needs this money to shove into the mainstream medias face and also so he can get Secret Service Protection. This really means alot, seriously folks. Now is the time. Donating now and ensuring he gets the nomination, just means that you will be able to keep more of your money in the future if hes elected. Ron Paul will more than likely legalize hemp too which I know NS would love that :)
 
Here are just SOME of the bigger updates in Pauls campaign.

He raised $5.1 Million dollars this last fundraising quarter (3 months long). That number has catapulted him into first tier.

The best, most in depth interview Ron Paul has given yet. Kudos to PBS for not being biased. None of the other candidates have went this far in depth.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec07/paul_10-12.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA-The Most watched Ron Paul video, very well put together. It has 14.1 K diggs on digg.com which is in the top 10 of most diggs ever.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/John_Harwood_After_poll_removal_CNBC_1016.html-The Media is finally taking notice of Ron Pauls support after emails were flooded when CNBC removed a poll Ron Paul won. Watch the video at the bottom of the page.

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A funny perspective

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyfa2yuPTDQ-A really good interview of Ron Paul by Good Morning America a couple weeks ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t5OYUCWf7o-Recent press conference regarding the top tier candidates and how much money they really have. LOL at McCain, he is in bigtime debt. This video basically shows that Ron Paul is in the top tier of the GOP.
 
Recently, CNBC had a presidential debate and then had an online voting Poll. The manager of the CNBC has said outright the poll was not spammed or cheated. Ron Paul won the vote by 75%, the poll was taken down soon after about 7000 people voted because they wanted to hide the results, watch this very well put together video catching CNBC red handed trying to manipulate the population.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45mmY7giY4s
 
So why would CNN like to hide an online poll? Maybe because its not a clear unbiased result as they hoped it would be because of RP's internet zealot base?
 
arent alot of you forgetting that the party has to nominate who runs in the election from the group of candidates?

i support him 100% but its a sad sad shame that he will most likely not be the republican nominee

i didnt read every post but i saw alot of "im voting for him" type stuff... thats great and all but you probably wont even have the opportunity to vote for him...

 
Huh? The Primary election and the general election are two different things. Ron Paul will be on the ballot in the primaries, 100% for sure. We will be able to vote for him. The General election is a different story. If the Republican party is smart, they will endorse Ron Paul because he is the ONLY person who can beat Hilary Clinton, I can guarantee that. Nobody wants Hillary in office so I have a good feeling the GOP is waking up to that fact.
 
Dude, Im so fucking sick of that argument. I truly believe that everyone is jealous that Ron Paul has so many supporters on the internet. Like I said, the guy from CNBC said in a letter to Pauls supporters that the votes were not hacked or spammed and he disagreed with his fellow employees who took the poll down. This is 2007, the internet is a big part of everyones lives now. Just about everyone uses the internet these days, even old folks.

Now here is a point I want to make too. If the mainstream media's "favorite" candidates had won these online polls, they would be singing the gospel about how great they are and how much support they have. But alas, they got owned. Did you watch the video I posted? Giuliani got like 1% of the vote, with the other supposedly "front runners" got about 3%. CNBC was telling people to vote on their website, so people voted. I voted one time for Ron Paul and all of his supporters know that everyone thinks they 'spam' so I imagine most of them voted only once too. Its not Ron Pauls fault that he has alot of support on the net. Thats just how it is. How is that bias? So if Ron Paul wins the primaries, is that going to be because of Ron Paul's internet zealot base too spamming the paper polls? Obviously the internet is a very powerful tool in politics as people have found out, so quit trying to diminish his support. The internet is a form of mainstream media now and its not in control of 5 major corporations, thank god.
 
You have such incredible blind faith in your brethren it's almost scary. Someone almost undoubtedly DID spam, no internet poll anywhere that isn't rigged gives 75% of a vote to one side or the other, unless it's about whether or not puppies make cute doorstops.
 
Can you read? The Manager of CNBC wrote a letter to Ron Pauls supporters specifically stating that the poll was NOT spammed. His email was flooded with Ron Pauls supporters asking him why the poll was taken down and why he is trying to diminish Pauls campaign. Here is Mr. Harwood (CNBC manager) saying on National TV how it all went down. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEFmAqfiXnk-Listen closely, he specifically says the poll was not hacked or rigged.

Im sure CNBC has a record of every single vote that was cast and where it came from, that is how the internet works. IP's get logged, every vote IP gets put into a database. Yes, 75% is alot of votes, but there were only like 10000 people who got to vote. There are millions of people who live in the US. Why does it baffle you so that so many people feel strongly about one candidate? Your argument is completely moot.

 
Methinks that if Ron Paul has a large fanbase on the internet, then if a poll where one can vote for Ron Paul is put up, they might, oh i dunno, take complete siege of it? Only one nut like you would need to post a comment about "OMG WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR RON NOWW ZOMG!!!" in some forum dedicated to the circle jerk for supporters to completely outnumber those who watched the debate and then had to go on their computer.

Ron has more than 10000 internet supporters, methinks it's entirely possible to rig a vote like that, even by only voting once if you must.
 
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