Rofl, so my friend was bitching about only getting to be friends with girls and...

"rule #1: The best way never to get a girl is to be direct and honest about wanting her." I think id like that more if it were true. When i watch people be direct about wanting someone, they get that person. One of the best pickup lines ever is simply "Your hot, i want you". It actually works wonders (at least when people are drinking) and has such a good success rate. you should try it out.

Like a virgin on promnight!

-Thom Savery

please pardon the cacography

Capital.City.Rider..Phunkin

.Phatt.Phreerider.

'naahhmahh
nahh

hahh

h ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'

"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"

"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
 
maybe rule #1 works with drinking, but I find girls like to play games too much and liek the chase and what they can't have. It's shitty.

DL.CCR.PPP.J-CREW
 
There's a difference between a pickup line and going after a relationship... try coming clean and pouring your heart out to a girl you've been after for a while about how much you care about her. In 95% of cases, it will not turn out well for you. At all. Even playing mind games is infinitely more effective. It's kind of sad that tricking someone into liking you is more effective than just being direct, but it's a fact of life.

 
i guess im just disalousioned because iv been playing mind games now for 7 months with this one girl to no avail. she just seems so oblivious.

Like a virgin on promnight!

-Thom Savery

please pardon the cacography

Capital.City.Rider..Phunkin

.Phatt.Phreerider.

'naahhmahh
nahh

hahh

h ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'

"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"

"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
 
tahst exactly it. you date one guy and then all his friends are off limits. protective thing maybe? i dunno. ive had it happen, not cool.

 
alright, so everyone knows the problem, is there any solution??? or are we all just gonna say "haha, word, the same thing happens to me....blah blah blah"

-kulpy-
 
There's no way to fix the "friend" situation. Once you're there, it's just about impossible to get to the point where she'll be interested in you. It's been known to happen, but it's an uphill battle at best. The best plan is to not get stuck in that situation in the first place, by obeying the rules of engagement; most importantly, nice guys finish last.

 
haha, that whole thing is pretty much true. but there r more girls than u think who dont care too much about oney, they just want a person who cares about them, and sometimes just saying it is attractive. and its definatly true that there are girls who hang w/ guys and will never be more than friends. and for guys for r friends w/ girls, eveyone is in the situation fer some reason thats just how it is. move on to someone else if they dont do anything.

 
Summary of rules, on which to base policy prescriptions, from the Ladder Theory:

Rule #1: Nice guys finish last. Or alone. Depends on how you look at it. If you attempt to be nice, you will be the "Nice friend guy" the girls complain to about their boyfriends. This is not a good thing.

Rule #2: The best way never to get a girl is to be direct and honest about wanting her. Playing mind games, being aloof, and generally seeming disinterested is a better policy. Having her unsure of whether you want her is best.

Rule #3: Girls say they care about: Sensitivity, Intelligence, Sense of humour, Creativity. They do not really care about these things. They care about attractiveness, and wealth.

Rule #4: Attractiveness is largely concerned with appearance, but also with enticement (refer to rule #2). Also, they appreciate the novel over the ordinary, even if it is worse than the ordinary for all practical purposes.

Rule #5: You become immediately more attractive if more girls are into you. Competition increases attraction significantly. This is something like a bank policy of only lending money to people who already have it.

Rule #6: Because of Rule #1, it is never desirable to become friends with a girl you find attractive. It's also completely impossible. The definition of "friend" does not include "person I'd like to bend over a table and wham".

Rule #7: Women can't be friends with anyone they're attracted to, either. You're either her friend, in which case you haven't got a chance of having sex with her, or you're a target. They're mutually exclusive.

Rule #8: There's often no way of knowing which situation you're in without going for broke. Obvious signs of interest from her can help, but are not always present. The worst case scenario is the kiss of death: "I like you, but I don't think of you that way." This is equivalent to applying for a job, and having the employer tell you "You're fully qualified, but we're not going to hire you. We're going to hire someone worse, and then call you from time to time to complain about the person we hired."

Rule #9: The only three cases in which a girl and guy can be friends are if one is gay, if one is not attracted to the other, or if one or both are in relationships already with people they'd rather be with. In the last case, the friendship ends when either relationship ends unless another of the two cases is satisfied.

Rule#10: Though there is a slight chance that you can move from the friend category to the "willing to bang" category, it is so rare and such an uphill battle in general that it's simply not worth it. If you find yourself in this position, it's usually better to just give up and start over with someone else, and avoid the friend category at all costs. Even coming straight out and saying "I cannot be friends with you, because I'm attracted to you, and no man can be friends with a girl he'd bang", at least saves you time and wasted effort.

 
sadly, that just about sums it all up. im impressed with your rules.

Like a virgin on promnight!

-Thom Savery

please pardon the cacography

Capital.City.Rider..Phunkin

.Phatt.Phreerider.

'naahhmahh
nahh

hahh

h ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'

"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"

"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
 
The LT is simplistic, though. It forms an extremely accurate, if exaggerated, basis for expansion into a more developed theory with plent of other rules to deal with. I just condensed it into 10 major ones.

 
i always pull the good friend bit. The nice guy. But i usually come out of it getting some pussy...i think you dudes are just lame.

 
It's possible to be a "nice" OB and therefore avoid rule#1, but you have to still be aggressive to avoid being put on the friends list. The term "Outlaw Biker" is exaggerated; obviously women aren't going to be with guys they THINK are complete jerks. The theory is exaggerated to make a point: You don't want to be the "nice guy" to which other guys are compared. You don't want to be the one she comes to for a shoulder to cry on, because those are the guys who never really get anything out of it but a "friend" (that "friend" is using you, obviously).

 
or i really am a lil sister since I am usually the only girl in a big group of guys and usually the youngest and therefore the guys do become over protective of me.... but i have been told that the fact that I a strong skier, snowboarder and wakeboarder that I would hvae to find a guy that did not do any of those sports because most guys are intimdated by the idea that a girl is just as good or better then them at something

Couple good friends, couple cold beers, couple HUGE puddles all equal a wicked night on the farm...

Thank god for the country
 
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