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14463732:Lafam said:I'm confused at what youre saying is a conspiracy theory here.
14463838:Monsieur_Patate said:My post was in reply to your point about how one should not 'trust the science', the 'crazies are proven right' throughout history, and how borty should educate himself and pick up some of your 'books', etc. I was not talking about your LGBTQ take in particular, but about your behavior in general when it comes to conspiracy theories.
On this particular topic though, if you really need me to point out what I consider to be a 'conspiracy theory', you're basically saying there is a widespread leftist government agenda to indoctrinate children from a young age to make them gay, gender-fluid or whatever. And you're saying parents opposing this agenda are seeing their children taken away by CPS and are being put on FBI lists. Sure buddy.
14463838:Monsieur_Patate said:My post was in reply to your point about how one should not 'trust the science', the 'crazies are proven right' throughout history, and how borty should educate himself and pick up some of your 'books', etc. I was not talking about your LGBTQ take in particular, but about your behavior in general when it comes to conspiracy theories.
On this particular topic though, if you really need me to point out what I consider to be a 'conspiracy theory', you're basically saying there is a widespread leftist government agenda to indoctrinate children from a young age to make them gay, gender-fluid or whatever. And you're saying parents opposing this agenda are seeing their children taken away by CPS and are being put on FBI lists. Sure bH
14463800:SavageBiff said:oh cmon that’s someone starter house
you “poors” gotta quit hating, it’s likely your own damn fault, you failed your schools your parents and your piers not the other way around
14463838:Monsieur_Patate said:My post was in reply to your point about how one should not 'trust the science', the 'crazies are proven right' throughout history, and how borty should educate himself and pick up some of your 'books', etc. I was not talking about your LGBTQ take in particular, but about your behavior in general when it comes to conspiracy theories.
On this particular topic though, if you really need me to point out what I consider to be a 'conspiracy theory', you're basically saying there is a widespread leftist government agenda to indoctrinate children from a young age to make them gay, gender-fluid or whatever. And you're saying parents opposing this agenda are seeing their children taken away by CPS and are being put on FBI lists. Sure buddy.
14463849:Lafam said:Hate to burst your bubble buddy, but its literally happening right in front of you there is no hidden "conspiracy. They are promoting the stuff to kindergartners and throwing up hissy fits when told they cant teach that content anymore. Making you believe Ron De Santis is a homophobic devil for saying its time to stop allowing teachers to preach their sexual orientations onto young kids. Have you seen some of the books in the libraries in schools? Parents have gone to school board meetings, reading the books their kids can obtain in school and its vile and disgusting.. Believe it or not. Parents have faced legal repercussions for not allowing their child to transition. also yes the FBI is monitoring some of these events under the label of domestic terrorism. We are living in a clown world.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/may/12/whistleblowers-fbi-probed-parents-under-counterter/
14463851:Biffbarf said:I grew up pretty broke. I always looked up to these suburban monstrosities as the 'rich' kids. My point is the people who bitch the most usually have no idea how good they have it. I'm doing ok now, did the whole 'bootstrap' thing y'all like to meme about.
14463860:SavageBiff said:I grew up broke too , parents did well enough to provide roof, food, school, I went from there to marines to welfare to working 120hr weeks, but never in my life did I look at the wealthy, rich, or doing well people like they were not deserving, I looked at it like , how do I get there, how do I share it with those whom I can, only w/o being a scumbag. When a dad has the pleasure of giving his kid a trust fund and a Benz I’m stoked for the dad, and just hope the kid earned, deserves, or will in the future deserve and appreciate these things.
14463848:Craw_Daddy said:Indoctrination is not the same thing as turning children gay. Although I will say if a child does come out as gay or non-binary, the parents of that child have a right to know, safe spaces be damned. Progressives absolutely are trying to dismantle heteronormativity in our society and there are countless examples of it. If you have a problem with heteronormativity then you are a delusional mentally ill individual OR you have been indoctrinated to believe something is normal when it isnt, Heterosexual relationships are what is natural for humans and all you have to do to prove that is look at every single other mammalian species (or hell even most sexually dimorphic species except for some frogs).
14463871:theabortionator said:Funny when people were saying "drain the swamp". Some of y'all are the swamp. Damn. There's some pretty fucked stuff in this thread.
Big yikes...
14463873:VTshredder69 said:Just as funny reading the press secretaries tweets about the 2016 election "Being stolen" but when asked about the 2020 election "there is no way it was stolen"
Both sides are fucking morons.
14463876:skierman said:Equating tweets from randos to Trump actively trying to overthrow the election via a riot, pressuring and threatening elected officials and attempting an illegal electors scam.
BRO, YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY'RE LIKE THE SAME THING!
14463881:VTshredder69 said:Lol 50 basement dwellers being let into the capitol isn't an attempt to "overthrow the election" You sound so fucking stupid constantly repeating that.
But yea, the press secretary calling the election stolen in 2016 is pretty fucking hilarious. Because it's ok when democrats do it but not when repubs do it.
Only what fits your agenda.
14463848:Craw_Daddy said:Indoctrination is not the same thing as turning children gay. Although I will say if a child does come out as gay or non-binary, the parents of that child have a right to know, safe spaces be damned. Progressives absolutely are trying to dismantle heteronormativity in our society and there are countless examples of it. If you have a problem with heteronormativity then you are a delusional mentally ill individual OR you have been indoctrinated to believe something is normal when it isnt, Heterosexual relationships are what is natural for humans and all you have to do to prove that is look at every single other mammalian species (or hell even most sexually dimorphic species except for some frogs).
14463859:Monsieur_Patate said:This is exactly what I'm talking about, you find an article from some obscure site and take it as 'truth' because it fits your narrative without making the effort to fact check it. The FBI is only tracking violent threats made against school boards (as they should btw!):https://www.politifact.com/factchec..._JW8Z6gL7Yeu6fKACCtGpJ-XXkRGdH94hfaYIk14vdDmg
"The FBI has never been in the business of investigating parents who speak out or policing speech at school board meetings, and we are not going to start now," the FBI said in a statement. "The FBI’s focus is on violence and threats of violence that potentially violate federal law."
That's why it's tough to take anything you say seriously, you seem to lack the ability to question information and do even the most basic fact checking. You just pick and chose what 'source' to believe solely based on whether or not it fits your narrative.
14463887:skierman said:You know you've lost when you're trying to equate posts on social media to a riot of the president's supporters attacking police, invading the Capitol with the intention of holding elected officials hostage, hanging the VP and stopping the certification of the presidential election.
But please, do go on explaining away the illegal electors scam coordinated by Trump's team and Trump's multiple phone calls threatening elected officials. I'll wait.
14463891:Jems said:this is a lot of words to say i hate gay people
14463892:Lonely said:It's usually just based on titles. As we went over in previous threads it's not uncommon when you go into read the linked articles showing the "truth" they actually disagree with the claim being made. Most aren't reading past the title.
Good example seemed to be the Switzerland heating prison. Article title was something along the lines of "Swiss government says prison time for people who heat their homes!"
When you actually read the article it's a small proposal for a worst case scenario that is 20 steps removed from ever becoming reality. That doesn't stop all "the world is ending" posts though.
My other favorite is the flip flopping on what is a reputable source.
CDC says something that disagrees with me? Deep state cabal.
CDC says something that agrees with me? See I told you so!!!
14463893:VTshredder69 said:This coming from the dude that's never cited a single source. LOL.
Your party is in office and yet he's all you can talk about. It's fucking hilarious.
You're secretly in love with trump you psycho.
I guess whatever you can do to try and hide from the trainwreck that is your party in the whitehouse LMFAO.
Lets not look at record high inflation, a president who can't speak or negative GDP for multiple quarters in a row.
Lets focus on the big bad man that lost the election 2 fucking years ago
BAHAHAHA
Keep working in that bike shop you pathetic selfhating white kid.
**This post was edited on Sep 22nd 2022 at 1:10:31pm
14463904:skierman said:Aw guys look, he's deflecting! Isn't that adorable?
14463848:Craw_Daddy said:Indoctrination is not the same thing as turning children gay. Although I will say if a child does come out as gay or non-binary, the parents of that child have a right to know, safe spaces be damned. Progressives absolutely are trying to dismantle heteronormativity in our society and there are countless examples of it. If you have a problem with heteronormativity then you are a delusional mentally ill individual OR you have been indoctrinated to believe something is normal when it isnt, Heterosexual relationships are what is natural for humans and all you have to do to prove that is look at every single other mammalian species (or hell even most sexually dimorphic species except for some frogs).
14463859:Monsieur_Patate said:This is exactly what I'm talking about, you find an article from some obscure site and take it as 'truth' because it fits your narrative without making the effort to fact check it. The FBI is only tracking violent threats made against school boards (as they should btw!):https://www.politifact.com/factchec..._JW8Z6gL7Yeu6fKACCtGpJ-XXkRGdH94hfaYIk14vdDmg
"The FBI has never been in the business of investigating parents who speak out or policing speech at school board meetings, and we are not going to start now," the FBI said in a statement. "The FBI’s focus is on violence and threats of violence that potentially violate federal law."
That's why it's tough to take anything you say seriously, you seem to lack the ability to question information and do even the most basic fact checking. You just pick and chose what 'source' to believe solely based on whether or not it fits your narrative.
14464003:Lafam said:Yeah, and homeland security i just tracking down the terrorists.. FBI can equate threats of violence to parents in a hell of a lot of different ways. Dont forget what the FBI has been implicated in in just the past couple of years. Using politifact to prove a point doesnt show me anything. Look who pays for these fact checking websites then you want to act like theres no biases there.
Noone is saying they hate gay people or trans people, just simply that young kids shouldnt be subjected to this stuff in school as young as 5 years fucking old. Are you guys crazy? When I grew up the teacher talked nothing of their private life and when you asked most the time they would tell you that thats their own business. They were there to teach academics, thats why their hired and thats what parents want. Not to have someone deck out their classroom in their political ideology and sexual orientation, and capture the minds of the children. They are not THEIR CHILDREN.
How pissed would you people be if there was a conservative teacher pushing his anti abortion beliefs on your kids. Instead of teaching the subjects he's supposed to, he decked out his classroom in gory pictures of abortions and statistics of babies killed every year, and from 5 years old was teaching these kids that its wrong. There is no room for political ideology in the classroom otherwise it crosses the line into indoctrination and thats what I'm arguing against.
14464003:Lafam said:Yeah, and homeland security i just tracking down the terrorists.. FBI can equate threats of violence to parents in a hell of a lot of different ways. Dont forget what the FBI has been implicated in in just the past couple of years. Using politifact to prove a point doesnt show me anything. Look who pays for these fact checking websites then you want to act like theres no biases there.
Noone is saying they hate gay people or trans people, just simply that young kids shouldnt be subjected to this stuff in school as young as 5 years fucking old. Are you guys crazy? When I grew up the teacher talked nothing of their private life and when you asked most the time they would tell you that thats their own business. They were there to teach academics, thats why their hired and thats what parents want. Not to have someone deck out their classroom in their political ideology and sexual orientation, and capture the minds of the children. They are not THEIR CHILDREN.
How pissed would you people be if there was a conservative teacher pushing his anti abortion beliefs on your kids. Instead of teaching the subjects he's supposed to, he decked out his classroom in gory pictures of abortions and statistics of babies killed every year, and from 5 years old was teaching these kids that its wrong. There is no room for political ideology in the classroom otherwise it crosses the line into indoctrination and thats what I'm arguing against.
14464018:Casey said:Do you even have kids? Seems like a lot of outrage about nameless faceless people you’ve never met doing shit you’re hearing about 3rd hand that affects you in no way.
14464048:theabortionator said:Moral panics use "but the children" all the time because it's compelling and drives people to action. The satanic panic, all the things. Even the way abortion was made an issue in the late 70s to go along with the "war on religious freedom" because people eat that shit up. Verse some of the shadier things they were actually worried about like losing their tax exempt status for running racially segregated schools. "Hey we want to be ravist" didn't ring as well even then as " but the children" and "They're coming after my religious freedomsss!!!!!!!
A lot of the narrative is driven the same way. Even the non religious conservatives.
14464055:Craw_Daddy said:This is such a dumb comparison. Ron Desantis is not trying to make homosexuality a crime or outlaw gay marriage or take away your rights. All he did was make it illegal to teach five year olds sex ed.
like I said earlier, people who want to get rid of heteronormativity are delusional and if you honestly believe he hates gay people then you are a perfect example of that delusion.
14464055:Craw_Daddy said:This is such a dumb comparison. Ron Desantis is not trying to make homosexuality a crime or outlaw gay marriage or take away your rights. All he did was make it illegal to teach five year olds sex ed.
like I said earlier, people who want to get rid of heteronormativity are delusional and if you honestly believe he hates gay people then you are a perfect example of that delusion.
14464062:theabortionator said:I was going to get into it at the beginning but didn't expect this thread to be a thing. His issues with gay people are more than just this, and being tight with trump.
Hell after the pulse shooting he had had a speech that failed to mention the lgbt community at all. Said something about "people from Orlando and Florida" kind of shitty regarding the anniversary of 50 people getting shot and killed at a gay club. Kind of tone deaf.
As far as this thread it's been more interesting to see how shitty some people honestly are. Wouldn't have thought weird homophobic views would be getting posted these days. At least not here.
14464078:Craw_Daddy said:So your reasoning for why he hates gay people is that he didn’t mention them in a recent speech on the anniversary of something that happened years ago. Yeah you’re definitely delusional man…
14464081:theabortionator said:This was a speech 1 or 2 years after, about the shooting. If 50 people get killed at a gay club not sure why you wouldn't mention anything about gay people. That's kind of weird. Not sure how that's delusional but okay....
14464109:VTshredder69 said:Guys, the government has our best intentions in mind. Just listen to them!
- Libs, Dems and morons
14464003:Lafam said:Yeah, and homeland security i just tracking down the terrorists.. FBI can equate threats of violence to parents in a hell of a lot of different ways. Dont forget what the FBI has been implicated in in just the past couple of years. Using politifact to prove a point doesnt show me anything. Look who pays for these fact checking websites then you want to act like theres no biases there.
14464109:VTshredder69 said:Guys, the government has our best intentions in mind. Just listen to them!
- Libs, Dems and morons
14464141:skierman said:Guys, the career politicians who pretend to not be politicians who use fear and fake patriotism to increase fundraising while doing nothing to fix the issues affecting the public because they're too busy running podcasts have our best intentions in mind. Just listen to them!
- Dumb fucks like VTshredder
14464109:VTshredder69 said:Guys, the government has our best intentions in mind. Just listen to them!
- Libs, Dems and morons
14464145:theabortionator said:Imo always d level trolling. Always surprised anyone responds to you. I guess you're getting some people to argue. Good luck with that.
14464161:Biffbarf said:View attachment 1051011
Lol. Lmao, even.
Ask yourself not why children need exposure to trans people, ask why trans people feel the need to expose themselves to children.
14464161:Biffbarf said:View attachment 1051011
Lol. Lmao, even.
Ask yourself not why children need exposure to trans people, ask why trans people feel the need to expose themselves to children.
14464161:Biffbarf said:View attachment 1051011
Lol. Lmao, even.
Ask yourself not why children need exposure to trans people, ask why trans people feel the need to expose themselves to children.
14464178:GrandThings said:OF COURSE its not ok for ANY adult to expose themselves to children like this.
I know you hate me, think I'm a kook, libtard, fa&got, etc. but please believe me when I say the VAST VAST majority of trans people are not like this and are just as appalled at this type of behavior as you are. Same with shit like Caitlin Jenner - trans people (at least the ones I know) HATE her because she is a terrible representative of the trans community, yet because of her fame, people assume every trans person loves and agrees with her which is absolutely not the case.
I have two trans friends. One male, one female. The male is the most down to earth bro I've ever met. He skates, smokes weed plays video games, and literally just doesn't want to be bothered in life. My female friend is admittedly more quirky but she's extremely conscious of not "stepping out" in any in-polite or excessive manner because she knows how legitimately dangerous that can be for her physical safety and that people like you are always looking to nitpick anything wrong with the way they present themselves to society.
Being open minded does not mean you have to be ok with the type of stuff you posted. Trans people are not monsters and painting these broad strokes equating all of their actions together is super dangerous.
14464185:Biffbarf said:I don't hate you. I also don't hate people who want to be left alone and be themselves. I do have a problem with people expecting society to cater to their every whim. People who expect to be addressed as something they clearly aren't, XY's competing in XX sports like there's no difference in anatomy because they feel some sort of way, and adults putting pressure on children to affirm a gender identity one way or the other which could involve irreversible life changing surgery or hormone therapy.
If there are people in the trans community advocating against the things I listed above, I commend them. I'm sure many are fine people.