Resort “PARK EDITS” don’t do it for me

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Idk man, edits that take place at resorts that just have jumpline aerial tricks and big high consequent rails really aren’t the vibe and don’t get me stoked like they used to

ive been so brainwashed by the street movement and in a good way, street really highlights the individual skiers creativity and ability to interpret their environment in a unique way that can’t be matched by skiing a park that a resort put together and going for spin to win tricks.

Also backcountry shit is hype too and that gets me goin, cuz again it’a up to the individual skiers interpretation of the environment and making the best out of what is there.

street and backcountry I really hold at a position where I believe it’s a true form of art to manipulate your environment based on what you see rather than what is built for you

not to say that big aerials and crazy big rails aren’t impressive, they are, but just not in the same way as street and backcountry

Thanks [tag=268329]@strictly[/tag] for making me this way
 
The problem here is obviously not that resort edits and skiing isn't as creative as street skiing or backcountry, its that resort parks aren't as creatively built as they could be. Imagine features in resorts that were made specifically to be unique & leave open to interpretation how to hit it and what to do on it.
 
14487553:milotv34 said:
The problem here is obviously not that resort edits and skiing isn't as creative as street skiing or backcountry, its that resort parks aren't as creatively built as they could be. Imagine features in resorts that were made specifically to be unique & leave open to interpretation how to hit it and what to do on it.

me trying to convince our parks manager to cut a side hit into the one jump we have rn
 
Of course the park isn't the same, but a JC or Jack Finn cut will always go hard blazing mach 10 through the features
 
So you like movies that are shot over a season where it takes time and hard work to create something over people filming in the park, weird...
 
14487570:eheath said:
So you like movies that are shot over a season where it takes time and hard work to create something over people filming in the park, weird...

Well yeah, that’s what I wrote dawg
 
I honestly prefer park edits especially from local crews because the tricks they do are actual achievable within my own skiing and inspire me to do more.
 
14487575:bogust said:
I honestly prefer park edits especially from local crews because the tricks they do are actual achievable within my own skiing and inspire me to do more.

Valid point tho, watching edits at places like troll/hyland/any rail-centric park builds gets me goin.

maybe I’m just not an aerials guy and that’s my whole beef with this
 
14487572:CowboySkibop said:
Well yeah, that’s what I wrote dawg

My point is that your ice cold take is just common sense, not sure what you're trying to prove with this post, like this just came to your attention?
 
I hate to say it but backcountry booter edits just dont do it for me anymore. Its all the same after a while with tricks over a knuckle into a pow field. It would be cool to have more variation with natural features like cliffs etc.
 
14487570:eheath said:
So you like movies that are shot over a season where it takes time and hard work to create something over people filming in the park, weird...

i don't think it's weird at all. i mean, with a whole season, you have lots of opportunities and lots of time to produce an impressive and interesting video, which can also be longer, while with the park, it's just kind of in the moment, which can be cool too, but it's not nearly as intricate or large as a full season edit can be.

**This post was edited on Dec 6th 2022 at 2:21:28pm
 
14487586:eheath said:
My point is that your ice cold take is just common sense, not sure what you're trying to prove with this post, like this just came to your attention?

I'm tryna talk bout it, im not trying to prove anything. I'm posting my thoughts on something and seeing what thoughts other people have. I don't care if its an unpopular take and I guarantee if I posted the same thread except saying I don't like street or backcountry the reaction would be the same.

I aint here to fight and die on a hill over not liking park edits or prove that I'm better than someone cuz of my opinion. I wanna have discussion on the art of skiing regardless if its about park skiing, street, or just skiing groomers lol

Do you see me replying to people with different opinions on this thread calling them fucks? hell no dude, that is not the aim here
 
14487575:bogust said:
I honestly prefer park edits especially from local crews because the tricks they do are actual achievable within my own skiing and inspire me to do more.

14487576:PsychicMigration said:
I just eat it all up.

14487590:SuspiciousFish said:
I hate to say it but backcountry booter edits just dont do it for me anymore. Its all the same after a while with tricks over a knuckle into a pow field. It would be cool to have more variation with natural features like cliffs etc.

14487594:SteezyYeeter said:
i don't think it's weird at all. i mean, with a whole season, you have lots of opportunities and lots of time to produce an impressive and interesting video, which can also be longer, while with the park, it's just kind of in the moment, which can be cool too, but it's not nearly as intricate or large as a full season edit can be.

**This post was edited on Dec 6th 2022 at 2:21:28pm

you all understood the assignment and this is exactly what I want from this thread
 
Park edits are incredibly low effort, especially if the guys you’re filming are really good. Filming street is a massive pain in the ass for everyone involved. You could film street for a whole season and maybe get only like 5 minutes of clips. Plus it’s just way cooler seeing people rip random creative dangerous shit.
 
14487597:CowboySkibop said:
I'm tryna talk bout it, im not trying to prove anything. I'm posting my thoughts on something and seeing what thoughts other people have. I don't care if its an unpopular take and I guarantee if I posted the same thread except saying I don't like street or backcountry the reaction would be the same.

I aint here to fight and die on a hill over not liking park edits or prove that I'm better than someone cuz of my opinion. I wanna have discussion on the art of skiing regardless if its about park skiing, street, or just skiing groomers lol

Do you see me replying to people with different opinions on this thread calling them fucks? hell no dude, that is not the aim here

the take isn't unpopular, that's my point, literally everyone thinks this, you just figured it out for some reason.
 
14487594:SteezyYeeter said:
i don't think it's weird at all. i mean, with a whole season, you have lots of opportunities and lots of time to produce an impressive and interesting video, which can also be longer, while with the park, it's just kind of in the moment, which can be cool too, but it's not nearly as intricate or large as a full season edit can be.

**This post was edited on Dec 6th 2022 at 2:21:28pm

thanks captain obvious
 
14487630:eheath said:
the take isn't unpopular, that's my point, literally everyone thinks this, you just figured it out for some reason.

Oooh I get it. Nah I ain’t taking the bait and arguing with you on this. I said nothin about “just figuring it out”. Can I not talk about this topic?
 
topic:CowboySkibop said:
Idk man, edits that take place at resorts that just have jumpline aerial tricks and big high consequent rails really aren’t the vibe and don’t get me stoked like they used to

ive been so brainwashed by the street movement and in a good way, street really highlights the individual skiers creativity and ability to interpret their environment in a unique way that can’t be matched by skiing a park that a resort put together and going for spin to win tricks.

Also backcountry shit is hype too and that gets me goin, cuz again it’a up to the individual skiers interpretation of the environment and making the best out of what is there.

street and backcountry I really hold at a position where I believe it’s a true form of art to manipulate your environment based on what you see rather than what is built for you

not to say that big aerials and crazy big rails aren’t impressive, they are, but just not in the same way as street and backcountry

Thanks [tag=268329]@strictly[/tag] for making me this way

I agree, street goes crazy, andy parry can make anything interesting tho
 
14487634:CowboySkibop said:
Oooh I get it. Nah I ain’t taking the bait and arguing with you on this. I said nothin about “just figuring it out”. Can I not talk about this topic?

Not trying to argue, just pointing out this isn't some new concept, people have been saying they think park edits are less entertaining than movies awhile now, you'd prob have to go to 2005 before edits were even common to find someone who disagrees with you.
 
14487640:eheath said:
Not trying to argue, just pointing out this isn't some new concept, people have been saying they think park edits are less entertaining than movies awhile now, you'd prob have to go to 2005 before edits were even common to find someone who disagrees with you.

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This is definitely true. Although I have seen park edits/segments that are truly dope. Like any JC whistler part it’s about how the skier uses the space available and how the filmer can best capture it. I also feel like Instagram killed park segments due to kids like matej and Jackson karseter going absolutely bonkers on posting frequently.
 
14487647:THE-Albino* said:
This is definitely true. Although I have seen park edits/segments that are truly dope. Like any JC whistler part it’s about how the skier uses the space available and how the filmer can best capture it. I also feel like Instagram killed park segments due to kids like matej and Jackson karseter going absolutely bonkers on posting frequently.

Ok yeah this is a great way to look at it. The market is kinda saturated by comp jocks posting reels everyday to the point where it’s rare to get hyped on too many new park segments
 
I disagree. Urban skiing does offer more creativity in terms of the features but I think what ur forgetting is that all of the sick riders are dropping urban parts and not park edits and all the kids that are average are dropping park edits and not urban edits so it gives this illusion that urban is this insane outlet for creativity when in reality its because all of the sickest, most creative skiers are only dropping urban edits.

Urban features are more unique and sick but a lot of them are so hard that you can't really do hard tricks on them, which I think is really sick, thats like my fav part about urban videos, but theres a major tradeoff. Since the rails are so hard, you usually can't do too technical of tricks on them, and if u can, I guarantee you theres a feature at ur local thats basically the same thing as that urban rail ur doing the tech trick on. Urban jumps are also way less sick 90% of the time and you can't do turn in urban.

To clarify, I think that if all of the stars align, urban edits are more sick. Ex. Zootspace, Eat The Guts, ON3P 3(or 4? idk they're both sick af) are some of my fav vids of all time because everything worked perfect but absolutely no hate, the new Harlaut apparel vid was dogshit because the editing sucked dick. Its like the dopest street skiing i’ve ever seen but every shot had 2 angles, gun sounds or "Waaaaaattttt", and it was too long, whereas imo, Hunk Patrol (Park edit check it out), has some insane creativity, crazy sick song choice, and sure it didn't have insane rails but the tricks and edit as a whole compensated.

Im sry for writing so much lol
 

Once again not trying to be a dick but if you watch Hunk Patrol (which u should) don't exit the vid because of Mike Brewers part, after him its crazy.

Since i’ve been dropping a lot of hot takes lately I gotta say its a disgrace The Spliff Of Enlightenment did so well, I did like 3 360's, shuffled accidentally, and lowkey missed my stale but i’ll take the niche ski forum microcelebrity internet clout for now. Maybe be harder on me next time ngl
 
14487706:BLandz said:
the new Harlaut apparel vid was dogshit because the editing sucked dick. Its like the dopest street skiing i’ve ever seen but every shot had 2 angles, gun sounds or "Waaaaaattttt", and it was too long,

agree with this I got bored 10 mins in I might watch it again though
 
Anytime I see metal I can slide on outside of a ski resort I just think of how great I am for being able to creatively interpret my environment. Most people wouldn’t get it, especially resort skiers.

topic:CowboySkibop said:
Idk man, edits that take place at resorts that just have jumpline aerial tricks and big high consequent rails really aren’t the vibe and don’t get me stoked like they used to

ive been so brainwashed by the street movement and in a good way, street really highlights the individual skiers creativity and ability to interpret their environment in a unique way that can’t be matched by skiing a park that a resort put together and going for spin to win tricks.

Also backcountry shit is hype too and that gets me goin, cuz again it’a up to the individual skiers interpretation of the environment and making the best out of what is there.

street and backcountry I really hold at a position where I believe it’s a true form of art to manipulate your environment based on what you see rather than what is built for you

not to say that big aerials and crazy big rails aren’t impressive, they are, but just not in the same way as street and backcountry

Thanks [tag=268329]@strictly[/tag] for making me this way
 
14487706:BLandz said:
I disagree. Urban skiing does offer more creativity in terms of the features but I think what ur forgetting is that all of the sick riders are dropping urban parts and not park edits and all the kids that are average are dropping park edits and not urban edits so it gives this illusion that urban is this insane outlet for creativity when in reality its because all of the sickest, most creative skiers are only dropping urban edits.

Urban features are more unique and sick but a lot of them are so hard that you can't really do hard tricks on them, which I think is really sick, thats like my fav part about urban videos, but theres a major tradeoff. Since the rails are so hard, you usually can't do too technical of tricks on them, and if u can, I guarantee you theres a feature at ur local thats basically the same thing as that urban rail ur doing the tech trick on. Urban jumps are also way less sick 90% of the time and you can't do turn in urban.

To clarify, I think that if all of the stars align, urban edits are more sick. Ex. Zootspace, Eat The Guts, ON3P 3(or 4? idk they're both sick af) are some of my fav vids of all time because everything worked perfect but absolutely no hate, the new Harlaut apparel vid was dogshit because the editing sucked dick. Its like the dopest street skiing i’ve ever seen but every shot had 2 angles, gun sounds or "Waaaaaattttt", and it was too long, whereas imo, Hunk Patrol (Park edit check it out), has some insane creativity, crazy sick song choice, and sure it didn't have insane rails but the tricks and edit as a whole compensated.

Im sry for writing so much lol

This is an excellent take on it. Highly technical rail tricks are sick as hell
 
14487603:Jems said:
Park edits are incredibly low effort, especially if the guys you’re filming are really good. Filming street is a massive pain in the ass for everyone involved. You could film street for a whole season and maybe get only like 5 minutes of clips. Plus it’s just way cooler seeing people rip random creative dangerous shit.

I think it's only low effort by comparison. For instance, I spend mad time editing my shit even if it doesn't look like it lol. But yeah if youre filming good skiers or if people are just going off on that day, you can stack clips like crazy.
 
14487732:Christian_Bale said:
I think it's only low effort by comparison. For instance, I spend mad time editing my shit even if it doesn't look like it lol. But yeah if youre filming good skiers or if people are just going off on that day, you can stack clips like crazy.

i could film a 5 minute hyland edit in the same time it takes me to get 15 seconds of street footy
 
I love watching both but typically the increased variety of features in street edits makes them watchable for longer runtimes. I'm not watching someone session the same 5 park features for 15 mins
 
I kinda disagree good enough skiers will stand out on any feature. Obviously a full street or BC seg will be more impressive but tell me something like the jump segment from IDEA or this Pollard edit aren't still dope. Also park skiing is actually fun to do unlike street and I think that comes through in good park edits.

 
Someone else said this but I want to reiterate it: Tons of the best skier/pros rn are only dropping urban and backcountry parts.

Anyway here's a sick park edit from this year

[video]1056116[/video]
 
14487590:SuspiciousFish said:
I hate to say it but backcountry booter edits just dont do it for me anymore. Its all the same after a while with tricks over a knuckle into a pow field. It would be cool to have more variation with natural features like cliffs etc.

Totally agree with this, bc booters are sick but if your entire edit is booters and a few mellow pow slashes, that is a pretty narrow part of "freeride".

Tbf I say the same about the people who just ski really hard technical lines with no real tricks, and minimal creativity. These things are all good but it gets monotonous and makes you look like a one-trick pony at a certain point if you never mix it up.
 
My mind has kinda been changed on this…. It’s not so much park/street/pow that matters if and edit is cool to me. It’s more in an individual skiers style on if I find it interesting or artful

i could watch hours of cal or brolf in the streets

i could watch hackel ski groomers just doin hackel Swerves forever

i could watch young snow clips at park city all day

i could only watch Ski Carnage and Strictly for the rest of my life and be happy

ive seen a lot of park edits that I love and after watching some more after gaining different perspectives from this thread. Whether ur in the pow or park or street it’s up to the skiers interpretations, not just how creatively built the park is
 
14488472:CowboySkibop said:
My mind has kinda been changed on this…. It’s not so much park/street/pow that matters if and edit is cool to me. It’s more in an individual skiers style on if I find it interesting or artful

i could watch hours of cal or brolf in the streets

i could watch hackel ski groomers just doin hackel Swerves forever

i could watch young snow clips at park city all day

i could only watch Ski Carnage and Strictly for the rest of my life and be happy

ive seen a lot of park edits that I love and after watching some more after gaining different perspectives from this thread. Whether ur in the pow or park or street it’s up to the skiers interpretations, not just how creatively built the park is

Ya that's how I feel I could watch a skier with tons of style do anything as long as there are out there doing them
 
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